Wishlist: What systems/arms do you think Indian armed forces should go for?

[SpArK]

 

[sancho]

Many many thanks Sancho.

I was thinking about posting SMX-22 and SMX-23. They might be offered for second line submarine.

No problem! They are concepts only so I doubt that they are already on offer and we need an operational version for fast induction now. But that's why I meant to use the competition as a chance to co-developments later, it should be clear that our ship/sub builders, as good they are, would never be able to come up with such a modern/futuristic design and that's why partnerships will be a big advantage

But don't you think EF-18G will be better than Su-34 for EW??? Its true that Su-34 has lots of similarities with MKI.

The Growler will have the better jammers, at least compared to the Russian versions for sure, but I have big doubts that we will get them and the Growler lite that was offered from Boeing will come without the ALQ 99 jamming pod.
The Su 34 is a varient of the Flanker family, it has the same weapons, same wings and even tail fins should be similar, canards could be similar too, not sure about the size though. The new S117 engines are offered for Su 30 as well as Su 34 and the Su 34 has a PESA radar too, just the form is different. I even think that the Su 34 fuselage including air intakes and gear housing are the base for the Pak Fa prototype, because they are the only Flanker AFAIK that retracts the gear vertically.

 

[indushek]

I would like to see IRON MAN kind of system in all three services and the ucav in the movie stealth.

 

[indushek]

In addition i wanted to point out one more thing, u see if we go through our epics we can see warriors who can fire missiles (astras) like bramhastra or vayvastra or suryastra etc etc . I we could bring back that kind of knowledge it would be the ultimate achievement of technology futuristic or should i say of the bygone era!!!

 

[aanshu001]

My wish list Narendra Modi as P.M so other will dare to think against India.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Professional riot gear in hot spots like Kashmir, and a professional Riot control teams.

Vector to replace all India's old submachine guns.

 

[silentinksoldier]

hmmm...
for the army:

pistols:
hk usp
sig sauer
UDAR revolver
Gyurza

sub-machine guns:
TDI kris
kedr
hk mp7

Shotguns:
Stryker
Saiga
Benelli m4
AA-12 automatic

Carbines:
9a91 carbine
ak74u
hk416
lr300

Rifles
aek971
an94 abakan
Scar
ak 103
ak 105
ak200(when it gets finished)
Steyr Aug a3
groza

LMGs

negev,
m249 saw
m260

Sniper rifles:

Cheytac intervention
Black arrow
svu
vss vintorez

Grenade launchers

milkor mgl
denel paw 20 noepup

 

[Kinetic]

No problem! They are concepts only so I doubt that they are already on offer and we need an operational version for fast induction now. But that's why I meant to use the competition as a chance to co-developments later, it should be clear that our ship/sub builders, as good they are, would never be able to come up with such a modern/futuristic design and that's why partnerships will be a big advantage




The Growler will have the better jammers, at least compared to the Russian versions for sure, but I have big doubts that we will get them and the Growler lite that was offered from Boeing will come without the ALQ 99 jamming pod.
The Su 34 is a varient of the Flanker family, it has the same weapons, same wings and even tail fins should be similar, canards could be similar too, not sure about the size though. The new S117 engines are offered for Su 30 as well as Su 34 and the Su 34 has a PESA radar too, just the form is different. I even think that the Su 34 fuselage including air intakes and gear housing are the base for the Pak Fa prototype, because they are the only Flanker AFAIK that retracts the gear vertically.

Sancho sorry for late reply. Will reply to you later.

 

[Safriz]

Light saber ?

Oh well..That was a troll comment

 

[sancho]

Sancho sorry for late reply. Will reply to you later.

No problem, btw I have one more thing to add!

The L-CAT / EDA-R:

http://www.meretmarine.com/lienobjet.cfm?mer_objet_lien_id=14833&id=108703


Le portail des sous-marins > Essais du L-CAT en rade de Toulon


In case IN clears the 4 LPD, or LHDs, we need modern landing vehicles too.

 

[LEO99]

i wish india have "nanomites" of GIJO fame then we dont need any nuclear weapons

 

[saumyasupratik]

Can't help but reply to this.Sorry if this is an old thread.

Small Arms

Pistol
Fabrique Nationale Hi-Power Mk.III (Standard Issue/License Produced)
Hi-Power Mk.III 9mm Parabellum Pistol

Sub Machine Guns
Israel Weapon Industries UZI (Standard Issue/License Produced)
UZI 9mm Parabellum Sub Machine Gun
Mini UZI 9mm Parabellum Compact Sub Machine Gun

Carbine Sub Machine Gun
Steyr Mannlicher AUG 9mm (Standard Issue/License Produced)
AUG 9mm Carbine Sub Machine Gun

Battle Rifle
Fabrique Nationale FAL (Standard Issue/License Produced) - Stndard issue Battle Rifle.Modified variant similar to DS Arms SA58 and has piccatiny rails.All variants have picattiny rails.Folding stock variants used.Imagine this was used instead of the 1A SLR's.
FAL Para 7.62mm NATO Battle Rifle
FAL Para Carbine 7.62mm NATO Carbine
FAL Para Tactical Carbine 7.62mm NATO Carbine
FAL OSW 7.62mm NATO Compact Battle Rifle
FAL OSW Compact 7.62mm NATO Compact Battle Rifle
FAL Marksman 7.62mm NATO Designated Marksman Rifle
FAL FALO 7.62mm NATO Light Support Weapon

Assault Rifle
Fabrique Nationale FNC (Standard Issue/License Produced) -Standars Issue assault rifle.Modifed variant similar to the Bofors Dynamics AK5 although Having an LMG version like INSAS LMG as well.Folding stock variants used.Imagine this was used instead of the INSAS.
FNC 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle
FNC Para 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle
FNC Carbine 5.56mm NATO Carbine
FNC Compact 5.56mm NATO Compact Assault Rifle
FNC DMR 5.56mm NATO Designated Marksman Rifle
FNC LMG 5.56mm NATO Light Support Weapon

Steyr Mannlicher AUG A1 (Standard Issue/License Produced) - Secondary Assault Rifle in use.
AUG A1 5.56mm NATO Assault Rifle
AUG A1 Carbine 5.56mm NATO Carbine
AUG A1 Commando 5.56mm NATO Compact Assault Rifle
AUG A1 HBAR-T 5.56mm NATO Designated Marksman Rifle
AUG A1 LMG 5.56mm NATO Light Support Weapon

IZHMASH AKM (Standard Issue/License Produced) - Has picattiny rails.For counter-insurgency.
AKM 7.62x39mm Assault Rifle
AKMS 7.62x39mm Assault Rifle

Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle
Fabrique Nationale FAL SPR (Standard Issue/License Produced) - Similar to the DS Arms SA58 SPR
FAL SPR 7.62mm NATO Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle

IZHMASH Dragunov SVDM (Standard Issue/License Produced)
Dragunov SVDM 7.62x54mmR Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle

Bolt-Action Sniper Rifle
Sako TRG (Standard Issue)
Sako TRG-22 7.62mm NATO Bolt-Action Sniper Rifle
Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Bolt-Action Sniper Rifle


Bolt-Action Anti-Materiel Rifle
Denel NTW-20 (Standard Issue)
Denel Mechem NTW 14.5 14.5x114mm Heavy Anti Materiel Rifle
Denel Mechem NTW 20 20x82mm Heavy Anti Materiel Rifle

Denel NTW-20 Heavy (Standard Issue)
Denel Mechem NTW 20x110 20x110mm Heavy Anti Materiel Rifle

Light Machine Guns
Fabrique Nationale Minimi (Standard Issue/License Produced)
Minimi 5.56mm NATO Light Machine Gun
Minimi Para 5.56mm NATO Light Machine Gun

V.A. Degyatarev Plant RPDM (Standard Issue/License Produced)
RPDM 7.62x39mm Light Machine Gun

General Purpose Machine Guns
Fabrique Nationale MAG (Standard Issue/License Produced)
MAG 60.20 7.62mm NATO Light Machine Gun
MAG 7.62mm NATO General Purpose Machine Gun

V.A. Degyatarev Plant PKM (Standard Issue/License Produced)
PKM 7.62x54mmR Light Machine Gun
PKMS 7.62x54mmR General Purpose Machine Gun

Heavy Machine Guns
Fabrique Nationale M2E50 (Standard Issue/License Produced)
M2E50 Browning 12.7mm NATO Heavy Machine Gun

NSV (Standard Issue/License Produced)
NSV 12.7x108mm Heavy Machine Gun

V.A. Degyatarev Plant KPV (Standard Issue/License Produced)
KPV 14.5x114mm Heavy Machine Gun

Under Barrel Grenade Launcher
Milkor UBGL 40mm Under Barrel Grenade Launcher (Standard Issue/License Produced)
KBP Instrument Design Bureau GP-30 30mm Under Barrel Grenade Launcher (Standard Issue/License Produced)

Multiple Grenade Launcher
Milkor MGL Mk 1L 40mm Semi-Automatic Grenade Launcher (Standard Issue/License Produced)
6G30 40mm Semi-Automatic Grenade Launcher (Standard Issue/License Produced)

Automatic Grenade Launcher
Denel Y3 AGL 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher (Standard Issue)
KBP Instrument Design Bureau AGS-30 Plamya 30mm Automatic Grenade Launcher (Standard Issue)

Disposable Anti-Tank Weapon
Saab Bofors Dynamics AT4 84mm Light Anti-Tank Weapon (Standard Issue/License Produced)

Recoilless Rifle
Saab Bofors Carl Gustav M3 84mm Recoilless Rifle (Standard Issue/License Produced)

Rocket Propelled Grenade
Bazalt RPG-7V2 Rocket Propelled Grenade (Standard Issue/License Produced)
Bazalt RPG-29 Rocket Propelled Grenade (Standard Issue/License Produced)

Man Portable Anti-Tank Missile
Bharat Dyanimcs Nag
Raytheon FGM-148 Javelin Anti-Tank Missile
Rafael Advanced Systems SPIKE SR

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

I'm going to keep it simple and realistic.Timeframe 10 yrs from now.
More tavor for elite units,cornershot for urban assault and counter terrorist squads.
More anti material rifles to support squads.These combined with javelin ATGM.
A standardized modern LMG.

More NAG vehicle mounted ATGM.
Helina and spyke for gunships.

Upgrading all t-90 s to to t-90m.Add a active protection system.
Arjun mk2/FMBT.
Tank corps should be arjun1,2 and t-90 m.

Total standardization of artillery on 155mm barrell.Move to a 155mm gun to be mass produced indigenously.
Bhim self propelled howitzer or PZhaubitze 2000.[real fantasy piece]
More light mountain artillery on the N-E front for better defensive posture there.

More and stealthier upgunned versions of LAH.About 300.[current order 190 odd]
A modern medium transport aircraft to replace antonov-32 s in service.Joint venture with russia.Plus the c-130 herc for backup.

Air force -

15 squadrons of su-30 super mki upgraded.
10 squadrons of rafale.[will probably be 7sq]
10 squadrons of lca mk-2.[will probably be 7 sq]
5 squadrons of mig-29smt.
5squadrons of mirage-2000upg.
5 squadrons of jaguar upg.

6 phalcon awaacs and 10 other less effective awacs.

With jaguar and mirage being ready to be replaced by AMCA.Entering production.
And mig-29s and earlier sukhoi and lca with FGFA.

Taking 7sq[sq strength by 2021 be 44 that is full strength]

Retrofit all surface ships with brahmos and barak ng.The ship programmes are coming in with kolkata classes and shivalik classes deployed.3 carriers deployed.

Main worry is sub capability.
Aim should be 4 ssbns.[each with 16 agni 5 slbm versions]
Meaning 2 always on patrol.
Plus 4 kilo class.
6 scorpene class.
6amur class.I would want u-212 though.
1 Akula 2 class.


Air defense.
Point defence- SPYDER[mostly fighter bases] and DRDO short range interceptor.Plus manpads .
Medium range - Akash.
Long range - DRDO ABM.
S-400[should protect all major cities that contribute to most economic growth]

Maintain deterrent nuclear posture.
4ssbns with 16 missiles.Ideally u would want them to be MIRVed.Even without 32 warheads always at sea for second strike.
No missile silos,all land based warheads[about 200] to be rail mobile.
Plus a 50 odd more for aircraft borne bombs[increasingly obsolete].
Total about 300.[no need for more]
Keep it at 300 ,just keep decreasing land and air based to nominal value and increase ssbn number to 6 eventually and mirv the warheads]

There.WISHLIST.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Professional riot gear in hot spots like Kashmir, and a professional Riot control teams.

Wish granted!!
Kashmir gets new anti-riot force
+
Check out these pic of forces @ Wankheade, looking great!!:
CRPF Rapid Action Force (in line with same kit and tactics as CRPF in Kashmir):

+ check out the BLACK INSAS!!^^

 

[debabratbarman]

all i want is the natsuit 2.0 from crysis 2. its a badass weapon man.