Will Vietnam Be America’s Next Strategic Partner?

[REhorror]

On January 5, 1968, the Soviet army crushed and killed four Chinese with armored vehicles. This is the earliest trigger of the incident.
In March 1969, PLA ambushed the Soviet army.

Did the 1968 incident actually happened, if so why did it take 1 year for the PLA to retaliate? Why is there no diplomacy in this issue?
Why did the PLA have to invade Soviet island to ambush Soviet troops?
Who were the chinese killed?

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Red Communist Vietnam as USA strategic partner???



Are you all joking?

Some rightwing Americans may be foolish and delusional but not the Vietnamese apart from the racist Khmer Krom South Vietnamese.

The Vietnamese leadership are not exactly fools.

When US VP Kamala Harris make some foolish and wayward remarks in Hanoi,
Vietnamese President who recognized the danger ahead was alarmed and immediate called the Chinese Ambassador to explain Vietnam's stance to China.

He declared that Vietnam will never formed an alliance with USA against China.

The Vietnamese leadership understand the gravity and the danger posed by such reckless and incendiary statement by US VP with bad intention.
Vietnam do not want to become a sacrificial lamb.

China may reannexed Vietnam as its former Province of ANNAM if hostility breaks out between USA and China.

ANNAM was a Chinese territory stolen by France and even today even stolen relics are returned back to China at the public auction.

 

[MH.Yang]

The chinese were led by mongol and then by manchu. They too were foreigners. China has always been multi-ethnic ever since the fall of the Song.
And yes, I'm not a Confucianist, I'm a communist or socialist. Mao was actually anti-Confucianist. Confucianism fails to resolve class contradiction in chinese societies (which is how the rich rule the poor during ancient times up to Qing).

You are right to say so. The Mongols and Manchus did command the Chinese army when they ruled China, but the Soviets did not rule China.
And the Mongols and Manchus paid a huge price.
There were 20 million Mongols at their peak. The Mongols ruled the Han people for 89 years. When they were driven out of the Great Wall, there were only 1.2 million Mongols left. The other Mongols are dead.
The Manchu people took the initiative to integrate into the Han nationality, and the Manchu language and culture were abandoned by them. They even abandoned Manchu names, and all Manchus used Han names. I don't know if it's worth it. The last nation to do so was the Xianbei nationality, and they also became Han people in this way. The Manchu people may want to learn from the Xianbei people. They absorbed the lessons of the Mongols.

These are nonsense. The most important thing is that the Communist Party of China cannot hand over its warships to the Soviet Union. It was also impossible to agree to rent the city to the Soviet Union. The deepest impression of the Chinese people on the colonies was that the powers divided concessions from China's land.

Yes, our leaders may be anti Confucian. But do you really think East Asian countries can break away from Confucianism and build a new country? That's impossible.

 

[REhorror]

These are nonsense. The most important thing is that the Communist Party of China cannot hand over its warships to the Soviet Union. It was also impossible to agree to rent the city to the Soviet Union. The deepest impression of the Chinese people on the colonies was that the powers divided concessions from China's land.

OK, if you say so, I don't believe the Soviet ever wanted to command the fleet, but that it was a joint contribution, but they contributed more because they had a bigger fleet at the times.

Oh well, let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[MH.Yang]

Did the 1968 incident actually happened, if so why did it take 1 year for the PLA to retaliate? Why is there no diplomacy in this issue?
Why did the PLA have to invade Soviet island to ambush Soviet troops?
Who were the chinese killed?

Before 1967, there were only Chinese fishermen on Zhenbao Island.
In 1967, Soviet troops occupied Zhenbao island.
On January 5, 1968, the Soviet Union crushed 4 Chinese fishermen with armored vehicles and injured 9 people.
On December 27, 1968, 75 Soviet soldiers besieged and assaulted the Chinese patrol.
On January 25, 1969, the counterattack plan formulated by Heilongjiang military region, was approved.
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/珍宝岛事件

https://baike.baidu.com/item/珍宝岛自卫反...岛事件&fromid=1700045&fr=aladdin&ivk_sa=1024630g

OK, if you say so, I don't believe the Soviet ever wanted to command the fleet, but that it was a joint contribution, but they contributed more because they had a bigger fleet at the times.

Oh well, let sleeping dogs lie.

As I said just now, if China had other options, China would not be willing to break with the Soviet Union and become enemies with the two superpowers at the same time. We're not crazy.

Do you think the CCP predicted 2021-China in 1958?

 

[Han Patriot]

No begging, kid.

China opened fire on Soviet Union border guard 1969 to begged Nixon came to Peking, when Soviet Army has liberated north China and handed to China PRC.

In Vietnam war, we are winner and USA is the loser. Is clear and USA is acepted the truth. US president came to Vietnam and begged us that to update the economy relation (deficit by USA), and USA has respect our country's severeignity in land and in our sea based on International laws.

Red flag with golden star is rising in hand of USA President.


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Dude, you guys are pretty obsessed with begging... Lol. Beggars syndrome I guess. There was a border conflict, and it has nothing to do with begging US. They came to us for a common for, it's a business deal, that's all. We keep the Soviets in check, and they open up the world market to us. Now in Vietnams case, you are not equals to either China or US, you are the bitch in this equation, a pawn so to speak and I reckon you know it. You won a war? With sticks and stone? Without us, you won nothing mate.

 

[MH.Yang]

In Vietnam war, we are winner and USA is the loser. Is clear and USA is acepted the truth. US president came to Vietnam and begged us that to update the economy relation (deficit by USA), and USA has respect our country's severeignity in land and in our sea based on International laws.

Red flag with golden star is rising in hand of USA President.


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Yes, the Vietnamese won the Vietnam War, good job.
But have Vietnamese ever played this game?

We had gather prisoners of war from 16 countries for an Olympic Games.

POW Olympic Games

 

[cochine]

Dude, you guys are pretty obsessed with begging... Lol. Beggars syndrome I guess. There was a border conflict, and it has nothing to do with begging US. They came to us for a common for, it's a business deal, that's all. We keep the Soviets in check, and they open up the world market to us. Now in Vietnams case, you are not equals to either China or US, you are the bitch in this equation, a pawn so to speak and I reckon you know it. You won a war? With sticks and stone? Without us, you won nothing mate.

you are typical chinese with the Ah Q mentality.

As I said the big help to Vietnam in time of Vietnam war came from Soviet Union and other 12 socialist countries from Europa. China do less but talk more.

Note that China is just crying and shouting very loudly when US provided new weapons to Taiwan. China is divided country, so China not equal to compare with USA or Soviet Union (Russia to day).

 

[Han Patriot]

you are typical chinese with the Ah Q mentality.

As I said the big help to Vietnam in time of Vietnam war came from Soviet Union and other 12 socialist countries from Europa. China do less but talk more.

Note that China is just crying and shouting very loudly when US provided new weapons to Taiwan. China is divided country, so China not equal to compare with USA or Soviet Union (Russia to day).

Wow, you think your weapons can just fly into Vietnam without passing through China? What about the food and ammunition and volunteers? Well you are the typical ungrateful Vietnamnese, only kissing Whitemans ***, Soviet this and taht but hey there is no more Soviet Union mate, China is still standing tall. We are divided? Lolol. Look at your Soviet masters now, pretty fck up right? And your new US papa needs us to bail them out. You are nothing but the whore of foreign powers, that's your fate.

 

[kuge]

If vietnam became a "strategic partner" of US it will become another afghanistan!!

 

[cochine]

Wow, you think your weapons can just fly into Vietnam without passing through China? What about the food and ammunition and volunteers? Well you are the typical ungrateful Vietnamnese, only kissing Whitemans ***, Soviet this and taht but hey there is no more Soviet Union mate, China is still standing tall. We are divided? Lolol. Look at your Soviet masters now, pretty fck up right? And your new US papa needs us to bail them out. You are nothing but the whore of foreign powers, that's your fate.

Importance weapons provided by Soviet Union, were transported over sea. Chinese logistic , road builder human was requested go back to China, when China and US diplomats met in Warsaw 1968.
China begged US Kissinger and Nixon to visite Peking ... China is dirty traitor, ungratful with Soviet who liberated noth China from Japan. Note that VPA has joined and liberated you in Guang xi from KMT in 1949. Talking about US papa, she is your papa from 1972, 1979 ...

Soviet Union is collapsed, just becorse Russian does not like to spend money to feed others. is china tall ? what happen when China population is like Vietnam ?

 

[Han Patriot]

Importance weapons provided by Soviet Union, were transported over sea. Chinese logistic , road builder human was requested go back to China, when China and US diplomats met in Warsaw 1968.
China begged US Kissinger and Nixon to visite Peking ... China is dirty traitor, ungratful with Soviet who liberated noth China from Japan. Note that VPA has joined and liberated you in Guang xi from KMT in 1949. Talking about US papa, she is your papa from 1972, 1979 ...

Soviet Union is collapsed, just becorse Russian does not like to spend money to feed others. is china tall ? what happen when China population is like Vietnam ?

Important weapons are rifles, you think the Russians sent you jets by sea? It would have been sunk off Taiwan strait numb numb. Lolol. Most of your ammunition and food were provided by CHINA. you can deny all you want, that's the truth, no China, you would've lost the war? You are like your typical boastful friend Viva, this is what we call a midgets mentality. Lol. If we wanted to beg, we have went to US not the other way round.

China is 20 x larger than Vietnam and why would our population fall to 100 million? Might take another 100 years and then what? We have the 3rd largest land mass on earth babe, thanks to our smart ancestors, your ancestors were useless as fck, that's why we colonised you for 1000 years.

 

[ZY-CN-CA]

In the real world China and Vietnam not bad relationship ，In particular, the border city between China and Vietnam is flourishing.

why in this forum always fight?

 

[Menthol]

Don't throw out accusation yet. It's not confirmed.
Just news to feed the starving hyenas.

I hope it's not.

USA gets bored.

Their own domestic affair is not good enough, but USA is too busy to be involved with someone else problems.

 

[REhorror]

In the real world China and Vietnam not bad relationship ，In particular, the border city between China and Vietnam is flourishing.

why in this forum always fight?

Kids, kids love to fight.