Will President Trump be good or bad for Pakistan?

[A-Team]

You whine like a Bharti. No offense ........... just seedhi bat no bakwas[/QUOTE

Whining? I am just repeating what Trump has said on the record. I see this more of as opportunity for Pakistan to change course, which infact is in her interests and the regions interests. What has sleeping with Afghan Talis brought to Pakistan?
Except for misery for the Afghans and Pakistan herself. Stop dictating Afghanistan via proxies, and deal with Afghanistan state-state.

Your polices of supporting Afghan Talis has killed Afghans and Americans, you wont listen to Afghans ( so much for hte muslim brotherhood) you may as well listen to someone like Trump, who is bent on becoming a best friend to India.
Stop making more enemies in the region, treat Afghans with respect and we will support you in every area.

Make sense?

 

[maximuswarrior]

Trump will bully Pakistan even more than it has been bullied in the past. Americans true faces are revealed since they voted an arrogant hardliner. I never thought Americans could do this but here we are. The worlds most arrogant nation at its most arrogant point. Did anyone read what Trump has always said about Pakistan? And muslim immigrants? Trump will push Pakistani American relations into the abyss. He also supports India. We are in deep shit.

Screw the US Pakistan relations. They were already in deep crisis even under Obama rule. What else could happen now? What is Trump going to do?

I say, focus on strengthening our relations with China and other countries around the world to a different level. US credibility is declining after Trump winning the elections. Trump will prove to be a disaster for the USA. Just wait and see.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Here is a hint for you, Pakistan's current strategic interest mean supporting Afghan Talis, destabilizing Afghanistan and killing US soldiers in the process in Afghanistan and costing her billions.

Does Pak's strategic Interest match those of the US?

You do the math.

Like I said man. Tell Afghans to pack their bags and leave Pakistan.

Pakistan doesn't care about opium infested Afghanistan. You are a lost cause. You don't figure in any plans anymore. Trump doesn't care about Afghanistan. He will pull his forces out and you will be left high and dry as always.

 

[A-Team]

Trump will bully Pakistan even more than it has been bullied in the past. Americans true faces are revealed since they voted an arrogant hardliner. I never thought Americans could do this but here we are. The worlds most arrogant nation at its most arrogant point. Did anyone read what Trump has always said about Pakistan? And muslim immigrants? Trump will push Pakistani American relations into the abyss. He also supports India. We are in deep shit.

I am trying to run this across here, but instead of looking at it objectively here in PDF, I end up being trolled.
Pakistanis needs to take a step back, and reevaluate how they see support of proxies, which endangers US interests.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I am trying to run this across here, but instead of looking at it objectively here in PDF, I end up being trolled.
Pakistanis needs to take a step back, and reevaluate how they see support of proxies, which endangers US interests.

You are living in opiumland. Just take care of your problems and stop blaming everyone around you. Afghanistan isn't significant.

Take care of Afghan citizens in Pakistan. They are about to be mass expelled. The European countries bribed you to take back your citizens. It is over man. Just give it up.

 

[barbarosa]

Leadership matters a little when institutions are solid. The question should be how will the American institutions behave under Trump's leadership.
Do the Pakistan's national values match with Americas?
Do the Pakistan's strategic interests match with America's?
Do the people of Pakistan and America like and respect each other?
Obama or Hillary or Trump, the bilateral relations between America and Pakistan will depend on the above points.

Actually USA used Pakistan for 70 years, We have changed our Qibla now, We have no need of them, we want to USA seek another partner for them in the region. You are right we have no any matching with them.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Actually USA used Pakistan for 70 years, We have changed our Qibla now, We have no need of them, we want to USA seek another partner for them in the region. You are right we have no any matching with them.

I'm terribly glad that Trump got elected. This is truly a new beginning for Pakistan. Our reliance on the USA has destroyed Pakistan. The pro US elements in Pakistan will be scratching their heads now. I'm so glad the saner figures in Pakistan figured it all out and started CPEC. It makes perfect sense.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Here is a hint for you, Pakistan's current strategic interest mean supporting Afghan Talis, destabilizing Afghanistan and killing US soldiers in the process in Afghanistan and costing her billions.

Does Pak's strategic Interest match those of the US?

You do the math.

Everyone knows this math. It does not matter who is at helm as a nation acts as a nation. During the Afghan presidential finals between Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah similar threads were discussing as to who would be how for Pakistan after Hamid karzai forgetting that Afghanistan will look after Afghan's interest whoever be the leader. If national values and national interests of two nations are not converging, then a leadership can do very little about it.

 

[Dr. Abdul Basit]

Correct me if i am wrong but american policies rarely change with the change of faces, what Pakistan should do is focus on education, research, self-sustainability, good relations with neighbors and major players and keep a steady economic growths, and Especially boost relationship with Reliable players but also prove yourself to be reliable and trustworthy.
on a lighter not; why should only we have stupid leaders its america's turn now

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Here is a hint for you, Pakistan's current strategic interest mean supporting Afghan Talis, destabilizing Afghanistan and killing US soldiers in the process in Afghanistan and costing her billions.

Does Pak's strategic Interest match those of the US?

You do the math.

I don't expect much change in US policy. Mark my words. In Western democracies and in particular US new governments bring change by the millimetre. It is policy change by few degrees rather than diametric changes. Whoever takes over manages the same underlying system which forces whatever ambitions they hold to be in confluence with the underlying dynamics. Mostly involves tweaking rather than bring fresh policy or 'old wine in new bottle.'

For example do you think he is going to ban Muslims? I doubt it. Policy with regards to Pakistan will remain same but possibly get slightly harsher which was slowly happening anyway under Obama.

 

[Verve]

I don't understand what the hype is all about which would be good or bad. It is the Council for Foreign Affairs (CFR) that makes the US foreign policy and every president toes the line. Simple as that really.

US will continue to arm India, irrespective of Obama, CLinton or Trump in office.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I don't understand what the hype is all about which would be good or bad. It is the Council for Foreign Affairs (CFR) that makes the US foreign policy and every president toes the line. Simple as that really.

US will continue to arm India, irrespective of Obama, CLinton or Trump in office.

True, but the hostility towards Pakistan will increase manifold. They will try sanctions and other means to press Pakistan for various reasons. We should keep that in mind.

Don't forget, Trump is someone who has gone on record to say that he desires to denuclearize Pakistan with the help of India. That is something. We cannot shrug off Trump's win as business as usual. This guy is mad and there is a reason why Modi and his supporters were desperate for a Trump win. We know it. Let's not bury our head like an ostrich. Time has come to move swiftly.

 

[Beast]

Trump is racist. Anybody that is non white. He will see it as inferior. Both Pakistan and Indian loses out big. But Hilary will be worst. She will bring US to WWIII and brink of destruction.

 

[footmarks]

Trump is racist. Anybody that is non white. He will see it as inferior. Both Pakistan and Indian loses out big. But Hilary will be worst. She will bring US to WWIII and brink of destruction.

What about White Russians? And off-white chinese?

 

[barbarosa]

I am trying to run this across here, but instead of looking at it objectively here in PDF, I end up being trolled.
Pakistanis needs to take a step back, and reevaluate how they see support of proxies, which endangers US interests.

What was US interest here? US's main object was here to conquer Afghanistan ( which has never defeated by any super power in the History) and be come as a Hero of the world and control China Russia Pakistan and Iran from here because Afghanistan is the hub station of Middle Asian countries. Now you (afghan govt) and India both are support USA. understand?