Why the TTP is undefeatable

[R2D2]

Also Pakistan's current political existence is oxymoronic by nature.

"Islamic Republic" and Joyland & LGBT laws do not go together. The biggest blow to TTP is not military, it's destroying their ideological narrative.

Pakistan should review it's laws and make them more in accordance to Islam, even if not 100% accurate. (Don't go Afghan Taliban mode)

Generally every Muslim has a redline until they see a "Muslim" state as no longer Muslim. Pakistan crosses that redline giving fuel to TTP and even moderate folk lean towards their solution thinking perhaps they are right.

Pakistan needs to implement a modern form of Islamic law - even if not 100% accurate. After this if any people like the TTP have an issue with the state Islamically, it won't be to the degree where they pick up guns and sacrifice their life, they will be willing to work under the national political framework.

My belief is that after this is implemented, give TTP an option to surrender as they are fighting against an Islamic state, if they don't then move to annihilate them. Their support base, recruitment, will take a significant hit.

@PanzerKiel

Great idea about Islamic Law.

Bro pakistanis are most hypocriticql muslims on the planet. Most pakistanis will view themselves as “good” muslims while inviting transgenders to weddings.

Most muslims are like this but pakistanis always bring religion into everything and go about crusadint all over world projecting their version of islam. You will never see indian muslims arab muslims any other muslims using islams name as pakys do.

Pakys have been brainwashed since day 1. Islam must be removed completely from society for atleast 1-2 generations. We need an attaturk like leader not because i agree with them but because pakistani society has to be cleaned of all its superstitione extremist belefs. After a generation or 2 of development we can bring back Islamic conservatism as a developed society.

I honestly believe such extremism is needed to counteract the islamist cancer that we destroy pak in a few years. On the curret trend we are at I expect a full blown taliban take over of islamabad by as soon as 2025-2026. At that point what will become of our sisters mothers daughters????

We cannot have a 3rd or 4th grade society and expect it to be islamic in any form.

We had our Ataturk Musharraf. He has AIDS now due to his views of Enlightened Moderation.

 

[TheSolution]

TTP is the ideological twin of Afghan Taliban, that's the only part I agree with.

It's not the twin of the other orgs, as it is heavily mixed with Pashtun nationalism, even Afghan Taliban next door is implementing their tribal cultural code more than Islam, and cracking down on other jihadi organisations to focus on national development, and how it treats other Muslim ethnicities like the Taajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks is not very Islamic.

They only care about Pashtun lands!

@KaiserX Just saw this, it kinda reinforces my argument from earlier...

I feel a civil war is coming ngl

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612403185221517313

 

[El Sidd]

India already gave its verdict. Let's call the LOC international border and be done with it. It is actually a compromise on India's side, but we are ready to make this sacrifice for our own good.

Pakistan rejects any such resolution that does not take into account for the party who has the most stake in the said affair aka the Kashmiris.

India's and any Indian verdict on the matter constitutes 1/4th opinion on the multilateral issue.

 

[TheSolution]

Pakistan rejects any such resolution that does not take into account for the party who has the most stake in the said affair aka the Kashmiris.

India's and any Indian verdict on the matter constitutes 1/4th opinion on the multilateral issue.

From a strictly pragmatic basis; the LOC should be made into an international border and India should co-operate in treating the Kashmiris with respect and providing development.

Pakistan is far too unstable and failed of a nation to challenge a much larger behemoth, especially considering both are nuclear powers, and the Kashmiris themselves aren't exactly pro-Pakistan.

From a pragmatic sense and letting go ideas of grandeur, I think it's probably the right decision no matter how much people dislike it.

But I do not think India will be truthful in it's claims of peace, their ulterior motives will likely remain the same as they are. It's difficult to build trust between both nations.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Army cant fight on empty stomach.
As in this case , problem is people dont know whos stomach should be filled in this first place.

Can't fight on empty stomach. Can't fight while on filled stomach.

The Bajwa Paradox.

Swine in Chief's pic for reference.

Why slay the golden egg laying goose?

 

[Laser]

Swal ye hai k TTP banai kis ne hai. jinhon ne banai hai wo apnay maqasid k liye istemal ker rahe hain. Dehshatgardi ka to bas name hai. (Agay se uthao khud nangay hotay hain aur pechay se uthao to khud nangay hotay hain)

 

[Goritoes]

Corrupt Army + Confused Nation + Tribalism= TTP undefeated.

 

[chinasun]

Read all the history books and study cause and effect behind everything. The lines of fate will be clearly displayed before your eyes. If you are controlling the media, the mind becomes your tool. The stock market is your cash machine. The truth doesn't matter anymore. Any accusations against Jews are met with frenzied attacks by the media they control. Label it racist. White people can be criticized.
Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control people. — Henry Kissinger。To control the media is to control people's minds.

The vicious layout against Pakistan started in 1974 when Pakistan had nuclear weapons. Behind the scenes is the control of the media Wall Street Jews are also Israelis and India is also involved. Those who embrace extremist ideas do not know that they are helping Israel against the umbrella of the Islamic world. Maybe when you lose your umbrella, you will know the cruelty of this world.

 

[VkdIndian]

From a strictly pragmatic basis; the LOC should be made into an international border and India should co-operate in treating the Kashmiris with respect and providing development.

Pakistan is far too unstable and failed of a nation to challenge a much larger behemoth, especially considering both are nuclear powers, and the Kashmiris themselves aren't exactly pro-Pakistan.

From a pragmatic sense and letting go ideas of grandeur, I think it's probably the right decision no matter how much people dislike it.

Valid points and options.

But I do not think India will be truthful in it's claims of peace, their ulterior motives will likely remain the same as they are. It's difficult to build trust between both nations.

Pakistan is equally to be blamed for this mistrust. Pakistan has ensured from time to time that any peace overtures from India was thwarted by way of an act that can be called ‘back stabbing’. Last one was just before Kargil.

 

[cocomo]

Afghan jihad really effed us up beyond repair.

 

[Menace2Society]

Tactical nuke Kunar, Paktia and Khost and lets see how undefeatable they are.

 

[Riz]

Can't fight on empty stomach. Can't fight while on filled stomach.

The Bajwa Paradox.

Swine in Chief's pic for reference.

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Why slay the golden egg laying goose?

sour na bullet proof jacket pehn rakhi ha

 

[Olympus81]

Pakistan has made wrong moves on so many levels.

I don’t think disconnecting religion altogether from Pakistan society is a wise move or it can be seriously done.

Pakistan needs to control and centralize the religious narrative. Mosques, madrassahs, mullahs need to be managed by the state. Non certified religious entities or individuals should not be allowed to operate on any pretext. Follow the Middle East model. At the moment all these 3 entities have been privatized and there is a competition of whose going to be the most extremist than the other. The jahil awaam are left to follow the rot, which in turn perpetuates more rot. You are already in a situation where if one talks about changing blasphemy law, then there is a vigilante mob vying for your head. So this is one front that has to be tackled.

Secondly is the quick dispensation of justice. When the terrorists see, their mates are being hanged very swiftly and efficiently through the system, that’ll disincentivize them to conduct violence. This is a long term process. When these dogs see their comrades released, traded for deals, they push the state even more.

Thirdly, the state narrative of Taliban good ans TTP bad is not helping. It’s hard to ascertain the difference between the two. These rodents are the same. Ethnic cleansing, suicide bombings, killing different clan members, attacking children is what they do. These hyenas just don’t know what peace means. You give them a Sharia country and they’d say it’s not extreme enough. They’ll want more. Tackle the TTP today, but remember the Taliban will have to be sorted out one day.

 

[El Sidd]

From a strictly pragmatic basis; the LOC should be made into an international border and India should co-operate in treating the Kashmiris with respect and providing development.

Pakistan is far too unstable and failed of a nation to challenge a much larger behemoth, especially considering both are nuclear powers, and the Kashmiris themselves aren't exactly pro-Pakistan.

From a pragmatic sense and letting go ideas of grandeur, I think it's probably the right decision no matter how much people dislike it.

But I do not think India will be truthful in it's claims of peace, their ulterior motives will likely remain the same as they are. It's difficult to build trust between both nations.

Well good news. You can vote for anyone who shares this opinion of yours to make your opinion heard on the floor of the parliament.

 

[CLUMSY]

Pakistani government is too cucked in front ofthe alt right islamic movements, look at TLP or any other extremist party, they are willing to sacrifice the right of some Christian kid or Hindu girl so some smelly mullah with a very weird interpretation of Islam can have his way, further empowering extremists. The government never abides by the actual constitution, state should never be mixing with religion in the first place and neither be influenced by it to a large degree