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Why So Many Pakistanis Hate Their Nobel Peace Prize Winner

may be because its unislamic, winning nobel prize for working for education of girls:lol:
 
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I am not sure about Malala situation, whether she is fake or not cause I haven't read enough about her (nor do I care enough to read about her). I will say this though, ppl didn't view Pakistan as heaven before her chapter started, so I don't think she changed ppl's view about Pakistan much. On the other hand, out country have another Nobel Prize Winner, so in the end its not all that bad.
 
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Why should we care about if they love or hate their nobel peace prize winners? They anyways do a hell lot of weird things..
 
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There are so many people around the world whose's work gone unnoticed but that does not mean that we should discourage or stop appreciating her. After all Nobel Prize also went to most of the deserving people as well.
Yes the question is how many of those have got a AK-47 bullet in their head and risen from the dead and continue with the work without fear. I am nobody to judge whether somebody deserved more than her.....however I think she isn't a wrong choice though.
 
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I personally have no problem with Malala or her ideals about women's education. My problem is with 2 things:
-The way the media portrays her
-Her book

The media portrays her as a normal girl who was brave enough to stand up to the Taliban and got shot as a result. The truth is that it was all because of her father, who was politically strong in Swat. A normal girl wouldn't have gotten an airlift to CMH. Neither would a normal girl have gotten transferred to state-of the art hospitals in the UK. I'm glad they saved her life, my problem is that the media story is so full of inconsistencies and it is also a slap for all the normal Pakistani girls who would never get that much attention no matter how hard they tried or how many times they got shot.
Sure, its inspirational and all, but I'd prefer it if the media just told us the truth.

Next is her book, which is a lot more about Malala's (or the co-author's/Her father's) misplaced political beliefs than about education or anything. For example, there are 149 instances of "Army" and a lot of "ISI" in the book. And all of those instances are something like this:

Musharraf told our people that he had no choice but to cooperate with the Americans. He said they
had told him, ‘Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists,’ and threatened to ‘bomb us back
to the Stone Age’ if we stood against them. But we weren’t exactly cooperating as the ISI was still
arming Taliban fighters and giving their leaders sanctuary in Quetta
. They even persuaded the
Americans to let them fly hundreds of Pakistani fighters out of northern Afghanistan. The ISI chief
asked the Americans to hold off their attack on Afghanistan until he had gone to Kandahar to ask the
Taliban leader Mullah Omar to hand over bin Laden; instead he offered the Taliban help

And then there's stuff like this:
But not immediately. On Pakistan’s fiftieth anniversary on 14 August 1997 there were parades and
commemorations throughout the country. However, my father and his friends said there was nothing to
celebrate as Swat had only suffered since it had merged with Pakistan
. They wore black armbands to
protest, saying the celebrations were for nothing, and were arrested.
Well Malala, what did your father want, Pakistan to join Afghanistan? India? Independence?

Now why did this book need to have this stuff in it? If I wanted to read a book about Pakistani geopolitics I would have read one that is not based on the opinions of a 16 year old girl. A very negative portrayal of the Pakistan army, which is similar to what an Indian would write. Now you know why people call her a CIA agent. (No, I don't agree with them. I just think her book could have been a lot better without all this in it)

As for the Nobel Peace Prize, I don't care anything about it especially since Obama, of all people, got one the last time.
 
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She has bashed Islam and Pakistan and Jinah and Iqbal defended retards like Salman Rushdie typical crap and lies she says which west buys and lastly co author of the book is Christina Lamb famous enemy of Islam and Pakistan

Yes, you can be counted on to say such things. Interesting thing is that you are quite gung-ho about supporting Imran Khan--and now even he is admiring Malala's Nobel Prize win. So your support for IK probably stems from some so-called 'Pashtun' clan loyalty (IK is a fake Pashtun--but I digress) or you think that IK is really ideologically closer to your Taliban buddies. Or just maybe you are far too confused to think rationally. Knowing how the mullah-brains are, I think you are just too confused to think rationally.

BTW, nothing Malala--a 17 year old--can say or do with regard to Jinnah or Salman Rushdie can make her be an 'enemy agent'. She is not a philosopher. Nor her speeches carry much weight. Her strengths are symbolic: Education for girls in face of violent threats. That's what she stood for. It doesn't matter how much she is made a celebrity in the West--what matters is how valid and positive is her symbolic value in and for Pakistan. And, btw, Pakistan and West are NOT on a collision course all the time--there can be significant overlap of interests, but that's for another debate.
 
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Next is her book, which is a lot more about Malala's (or the co-author's/Her father's) misplaced political beliefs than about education or anything. For example, there are 149 instances of "Army" and a lot of "ISI" in the book.

Please do consider the possibility that what she says in her book may be actually correct. What if it is?
 
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Please do consider the possibility that what she says in her book may be actually correct. What if it is?
What if it is? What, do you think I'm denying that Pakistan did things like that? Its geopolitics. Don't pretend the US hasn't supported countless terrorists and murderers to achieve their goals. Every country does things like that. I don't need a 16 year old girl to remind me of that. This book is supposed to be an inspirational one for children, students, for everyone, instead it's shoving political beliefs down our throats and showing the whole world that "look, it's all Pakistan Army's fault, they are all Taliban".

The truth isn't as simple as this book makes it look like. It will take a whole book to explain which of those things they actually did and why.
 
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Yes the question is how many of those have got a AK-47 bullet in their head and risen from the dead and continue with the work without fear. I am nobody to judge whether somebody deserved more than her.....however I think she isn't a wrong choice though.
Sir ji, I fully support and happy for little girl Malala that she got award. My response was specific to one poster who was raising objection
 
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What if it is? Its geopolitics. Don't pretend the US hasn't supported countless terrorists and murderers to achieve their goals. Every country does things like that. I don't need a 16 year old girl to remind me of that. This book is supposed to be an inspirational one for children, students, for everyone, instead it's shoving political beliefs down our throats and showing the whole world that "look, it's all Pakistan Army's fault, they are all Taliban".

The truth isn't as simple as this book makes it look like. It will take a whole book to explain which of those things they actually did and why.

There is nothing wrong with a 16 year old girl reminding her nations of facts, is there?
 
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There is nothing wrong with a 16 year old girl reminding her nations of facts, is there?
Those are not facts, they are opinions and theories mixed with some things resembling facts. Of course you, being an American, wouldn't care about those kinds of things against Pakistan. Pakistan already looks bad enough to the world. I have no problem with her criticising the state or the Army. I have problem with using theories, opinions and beliefs, presenting them as facts and then pretending it's all about women's education.
 
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Those are not facts, they are opinions and theories mixed with some things resembling facts. Of course you, being an American, wouldn't care about those kinds of things against Pakistan. Pakistan already looks bad enough to the world. I have no problem with her criticising the state or the Army. I have problem with using theories, opinions and beliefs, presenting them as facts and then pretending it's all about women's education.

Why do you think Pakistan already "looks bad enough to the world"? Is it because what is happening there is truly bad? Denial only makes it worse.
 
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