Why Russia Is Getting Closer To Pakistan And Abandoning India?

[GumNaam]

I am NOT living in Denial

You live in a FANCIFUL and Delusional world of your OWN MAKING

Yes and all the deals we are making with them are also fanciful. Keep it up dude! Works out just fine for us.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Yes and all the deals we are making with them are also fanciful. Keep it up dude! Works out just fine for us

They are Just Peanuts or should I say LOLLIPOPS

While India gets to eat CAKES

And you can only dream about Su 35
Or OPEN More Such STUPID FANTASY THREADS

 

[GumNaam]

They are Just Peanuts or should I say LOLLIPOPS

While India gets to eat CAKES

And you can only dream about Su 35
Or OPEN More Such STUPID FANTASY THREADS

These "peanuts" and "lollipops" came almost immediately after Russia extended its hands to Pakistan. And it will only increase only we'll be prudent with what we want. As far as weapons are concerned, Russian weapons aren't our top choice. First we try to make it domestically then thru China then thru Turkey then thru the u.s. and finally thru Russia. The only reason we got the mi35s is cuz Russia is the only one that makes a chopper that's a gunship and a troop carrier all rolled into one. Our main focus with them is trade, not arms. Now lets talk india. This is the first time in the history of indian relations with Russia that Russia has attached some heavy financial conditions that if you want the s400s the you'll have to invest 4 billion or more in the pakfa and if you want the frigates then you have pay upfront cash for them. The list goes on and on. Even on the diplomatic front, Russia has chosen to tow the Chinese line of giving you a cold shoulder in your own country during brics when you were whining about Pakistan only to basically get the shut the fk up call from both Russia and China. Needless to say, the relations are less than cordial and are turning colder really fast.

But feel free to live in your lala land. I'm not gonna be the one to wake you up. This thread is only for those who have a good grasp of the ground realities, not those who have blindfolds on.

 

[wiseone2]

oh bboy. okay dude, just scroll up the pages and look. right now your just wasting bandwidth!

There is no proof the video of all those choppers being in Pakistan
https://defence.pk/threads/why-russ...d-abandoning-india.476947/page-4#post-9187499

 

[GumNaam]

There is no proof the video of all those choppers being in Pakistan
https://defence.pk/threads/why-russ...d-abandoning-india.476947/page-4#post-9187499

Ok man.

 

[Tiger Genie]

It is Russia that needs to court India. Corruption, crashed oil prices and expensive pet Putin ego projects such as Ukraine/Crimea combined with sanctions have cripple Russia.

 

[ibnarastoo]

It is Russia that needs to court India. Corruption, crashed oil prices and expensive pet Putin ego projects such as Ukraine/Crimea combined with sanctions have cripple Russia.
(...)
Nixon: I want the Indians blamed for this, We can't let these goddamn, sanctimonious Indians get away with this. They've pissed on us on Vietnam for 5 years, Henry.Kissinger: Well, we don't know the facts yet. But I'm sure they're not as stupid as the West Pakistanis

Grateful to God, and one more reason why the nice Indians do not deserve to have relations with the West (US/UK/EU) or Russia. Nor do we deserve you nice Indians. Please leave us alone, you are on a .pk website! Please take your anti Pakistan , anti US propaganda else where? Why worsen relations by abusing and fighting with us and coming uninvited and posting misleading items? We cannot help nor guide your kind folk, only God can. Please forgive us we have too many problems of our own.

Is there a website where Pakistanis can interact with one another without having to put up with all this conflict and contention and abuse and sarcasm and subtle verbal assaults? I know we have sinned, may our sins be forgiven and may God have mercy upon us. May God have mercy upon Pakistan and Muslims and all the people.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

These "peanuts" and "lollipops" came almost immediately after Russia extended its hands to Pakistan. And it will only increase only we'll be prudent with what we want. As far as weapons are concerned, Russian weapons aren't our top choice. First we try to make it domestically then thru China then thru Turkey then thru the u.s. and finally thru Russia. The only reason we got the mi35s is cuz Russia is the only one that makes a chopper that's a gunship and a troop carrier all rolled into one. Our main focus with them is trade, not arms. Now lets talk india. This is the first time in the history of indian relations with Russia that Russia has attached some heavy financial conditions that if you want the s400s the you'll have to invest 4 billion or more in the pakfa and if you want the frigates then you have pay upfront cash for them. The list goes on and on. Even on the diplomatic front, Russia has chosen to tow the Chinese line of giving you a cold shoulder in your own country during brics when you were whining about Pakistan only to basically get the shut the fk up call from both Russia and China. Needless to say, the relations are less than cordial and are turning colder really fast.

But feel free to live in your lala land. I'm not gonna be the one to wake you up. This thread is only for those who have a good grasp of the ground realities, not those who have blindfolds on.

Since Russia has financial problems ; they will OF COURSE
bargain and negotiate

BUT we have 100 BILLION DOLLARS worth of Deals in
various stages ; either under Implementation or Negotiation
which will be signed soon

So this means that Soon Russia will be executing 100 BILLION Dollars
worth of projects OVER THE NEXT DECADE with INDIA

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...osti-vision/story-qr4H334ElrtX4fLDrwacyN.html

The last edition of the summit, held in New Delhi in December 2014, was a roaring success, evident in the fact that 20 deals worth over $100 billion were signed in less than 24 hours. “India’s partnership with Russia is incomparable,” Modi had tweeted then.

By the way looking at your Economy which is under Tremendous Debt
you can ONLY offer very small TRADE deals in comparision

Your forex Reserves are steadily DECLINING and your DEBT is Increasing

Reserves decreases by $376 million

http://www.brecorder.com/2017/02/09/336719

Russia wants Hard cash upfront

If Russia was Polite to you recently during BRICS ; it was with an EYE on Afghanistan

They look at Pakistan as an entry point to Afghanistan
and they want to keep an eye on ISIS so that ISIS does nt spread to Central Asia

But once they realise that You cannot Deliver ANYTHING
they will loose Interest in you

 

[GumNaam]

Since Russia has financial problems ; they will OF COURSE
bargain and negotiate

BUT we have 100 BILLION DOLLARS worth of Deals in
various stages ; either under Implementation or Negotiation
which will be signed soon

So this means that Soon Russia will be executing 100 BILLION Dollars
worth of projects OVER THE NEXT DECADE with INDIA

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...osti-vision/story-qr4H334ElrtX4fLDrwacyN.html

The last edition of the summit, held in New Delhi in December 2014, was a roaring success, evident in the fact that 20 deals worth over $100 billion were signed in less than 24 hours. “India’s partnership with Russia is incomparable,” Modi had tweeted then.

By the way looking at your Economy which is under Tremendous Debt
you can ONLY offer very small TRADE deals in comparision

Your forex Reserves are steadily DECLINING and your DEBT is Increasing

Reserves decreases by $376 million

http://www.brecorder.com/2017/02/09/336719

Russia wants Hard cash upfront

If Russia was Polite to you recently during BRICS ; it was with an EYE on Afghanistan

They look at Pakistan as an entry point to Afghanistan
and they want to keep an eye on ISIS so that ISIS does nt spread to Central Asia

But once they realise that You cannot Deliver ANYTHING
they will loose Interest in you

khisyaani billi khamba nochay. All that your doing is psychologically convince yourself that none of this is really happening. That's 2nd last stage of sorrow called denial. You'll approach the final stage soon enough called ACCEPTANCE.
in the mean time, enjoy the "cake"! bhangee gadha!

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Russia has attached some heavy financial conditions that if you want the s400s the you'll have to invest 4 billion or more in the pakfa and if you want the frigates then you have pay upfront cash for them. The list goes on and on

PAK FA cost has come down from SIX to Four Billion

We are Buying four More 1000 MW reactors

S 400 Deal is signed

More Nuclear Submarines are coming

Frigates cost will be negotiated

Ka 226 will be made in India

Su 30 UPGRADE Deal is a EIGHT Billion Deal

The List goes ON AND ON

khisyaani billi khamba nochay. All that your doing is psychologically convince yourself that none of this is really happening. That's 2nd last stage of sorrow called denial. You'll approach the final stage soon enough called ACCEPTANCE.
in the mean time, enjoy the "cake"! bhangee gadha!

You should KNOW your AUKAT
And Where EXACTLY you STAND in this WORLD

Therefore even GCC countries are loosing interest in you

 

[GumNaam]

PAK FA cost has come down from SIX to Four Billion

We are Buying four More 1000 MW reactors

S 400 Deal is signed

More Nuclear Submarines are coming

Frigates cost will be negotiated

Ka 226 will be made in India

Su 30 UPGRADE Deal is a EIGHT Billion Deal

The List goes ON AND ON



You should KNOW your AUKAT
And Where EXACTLY you STAND in this WORLD

Therefore even GCC countries are loosing interest in you

you trying this hard only shows me that deep inside, you know that what I'm saying is all true but the modi inside you won't let you accept it. Aah yes, the never ending struggle within. Well I can't help you with your struggle. You'll have to come to terms with it on your own, understand bhangee gadhay!

 

[Stephen Cohen]

you trying this hard only shows me that deep inside, you know that what I'm saying is all true but the modi inside you won't let you accept it. Aah yes, the never ending struggle within. Well I can't help you with your struggle. You'll have to come to terms with it on your own, understand bhangee gadhay!

You can OPEN ONE MILLION such FEEL GOOD threads
But they wont change REALITY

Reality is very Bitter

And till then Keep SELLING SNAKE OIL

 

[GumNaam]

You can OPEN ONE MILLION such FEEL GOOD threads
But they wont change REALITY

Reality is very Bitter

And till then Keep SELLING SNAKE OIL

Yes yes, let the denial flow thru you, let the butthurt flow thru you, feel your butthurt, embrace your butthurt, accept your butthurt, scream your butthurt.

 

[MultaniGuy]

wouldn't be surprised if Russia does a rapprochement with Pakistan.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

wouldn't be surprised if Russia does a rapprochement with Pakistan.

Rapproachment does not translate into Military Gains

Yes yes, let the denial flow thru you, let the butthurt flow thru you, feel your butthurt, embrace your butthurt, accept your butthurt, scream your butthurt

Why dont you ACCEPT that Both Your HEART as well your THREAD
was Butchered by Me

You will remember this for a long long time