Why Russia Is Getting Closer To Pakistan And Abandoning India?

[volatile]

The battle of economics

Russian 2 biggest clients have slipped or slipping away from Russian hands

Being with China it has still some chances of selling high tech weapons and keep some of the pie
S-400/SU35 are few examples

Pakistan cant replace India in size of industry but there are significant sectors where Russians can make money

e.g Nucleur Power plants as per vision 2030 more than 10,000 MW to be generated thru nuke power in this regard Russians can get good shares along with Chinese
Pak Army is looking for many systems from Russia from armoured vehicles to tanks to choppers
Pak Air force future 5th Gen can be a possibility from Russian examples .

So in short Pak cant replace India in size but even if its 10% of Indian market its still a good share and as marketer i know some thing is better than nothing

 

[SrNair]

Thats music to my ears. That is exactly what the russians should know about you since they are under a misconception that they've given a very privileged alliance to india in their friendship. They should know that for you its just...eh, business as usual!

For Russian leaders this is also just a business.There is no free lunch in Geopolitics .
Look what US did to you ,thrown Pakistan like a rag doll..

 

[GumNaam]

many ignorant pakistani members (presumably teens just learning 2 use a keyboard) believe that diplomacy is like a love relationship. instead of learning how not 2 trust anybody and 2 use your economy as leverage 2 acquire international points (which is what most sane nations do) , they have this blindfolded vision of utmost loyalty to their so called allies ("lovers")...not realising that pakistan itself was a victim of an all weather friend (usa) kicking it hard in the rear when it was no longer required.

you do realize that we never considered u.s. as an all whether friend. And on top of that, they need us while we no longer need them. But I do realize that the apparently generic insecurities and the inferiority complex that indians are plagued with naturally results in them wanting to always feel wanted and admired (childhood issues perhaps). Hence the extremely defensive and loud reactions. Denial is a natural symptom of such genetic defects. So as much as I may sympathize, alas, it doesn't change the ground realities that there is geopolitical tectonic shift occurring right under india's feet.

Enjoy your denial missy.

Strings or no strings but Russian leaders knows that a 2.5 trilion $ economy (7.5% gdp growth) can offer a lots than a 290billion$ economy (5% gdp).

One thing that india cannot offer Russia is a chance to become a 3 trillion dollar economy itself. Pakistan and China can.

For Russian leaders this is also just a business.There is no free lunch in Geopolitics .
Look what US did to you ,thrown Pakistan like a rag doll..

Uhm don't look now but the u.s. needs Pakistan now more than ever to reign their worst nightmare in (afghan taliban) now Russia and China are in their corner. Sucks for because we have no intentions of helping them. I'm sure you'll help though. And if that is what you feel the russians think then good. its only a matter of time when they realize that their economy is better of aligned with us than than with you. After all, your main financial stay of h1b visas is about to go bye bye thanks to the baboon in the white house his white supremacist master whose really running the show.

 

[MultaniGuy]

you do realize that we never considered u.s. as an all whether friend. And on top of that, they need us while we no longer need them. But I do realize that the apparently generic insecurities and the inferiority complex that indians are plagued with naturally results in them wanting to always feel wanted and admired (childhood issues perhaps). Hence the extremely defensive and loud reactions. Denial is a natural symptom of such genetic defects. So as much as I may sympathize, alas, it doesn't change the ground realities that there is geopolitical tectonic shift occurring right under india's feet.

Enjoy your denial missy.


One thing that india cannot offer Russia is a chance to become a 3 trillion dollar economy itself. Pakistan and China can.


Uhm don't look now but the u.s. needs Pakistan now more than ever to reign their worst nightmare in (afghan taliban) now Russia and China are in their corner. Sucks for because we have no intentions of helping them. I'm sure you'll help though. And if that is what you feel the russians think then good. its only a matter of time when they realize that their economy is better of aligned with us than than with you. After all, your main financial stay of h1b visas is about to go bye bye thanks to the baboon in the white house his white supremacist master whose really running the show.

Pakistanis have learnt from their mistake.
I doubt the Pakistani government will trust USA ever again.

 

[SrNair]

you do realize that we never considered u.s. as an all whether friend. And on top of that, they need us while we no longer need them. But I do realize that the apparently generic insecurities and the inferiority complex that indians are plagued with naturally results in them wanting to always feel wanted and admired (childhood issues perhaps). Hence the extremely defensive and loud reactions. Denial is a natural symptom of such genetic defects. So as much as I may sympathize, alas, it doesn't change the ground realities that there is geopolitical tectonic shift occurring right under india's feet.

Enjoy your denial missy.


One thing that india cannot offer Russia is a chance to become a 3 trillion dollar economy itself. Pakistan and China can.


Uhm don't look now but the u.s. needs Pakistan now more than ever to reign their worst nightmare in (afghan taliban) now Russia and China are in their corner. Sucks for because we have no intentions of helping them. I'm sure you'll help though. And if that is what you feel the russians think then good. its only a matter of time when they realize that their economy is better of aligned with us than than with you. After all, your main financial stay of h1b visas is about to go bye bye thanks to the baboon in the white house his white supremacist master whose really running the show.

Lol
Russians wont take anyones help to bolster their economy .They are proud about themselves and knows their identity as Russians unlike you .
Pakistan cant even help themselves now they are talking about helping others .

 

[MultaniGuy]

Lol
Russians wont take anyones help to bolster their economy .They are proud about themselves and knows their identity as Russians unlike you .
Pakistan cant even help themselves now they are talking about helping others .

What can India offer Russia other than consumer market. Nothing much,

Pakistan and China can offer Russia something much bigger and better which is access to warm seas on the Arabian Sea and CPEC.

 

[SrNair]

you do realize that we never considered u.s. as an all whether friend. And on top of that, they need us while we no longer need them. But I do realize that the apparently generic insecurities and the inferiority complex that indians are plagued with naturally results in them wanting to always feel wanted and admired (childhood issues perhaps). Hence the extremely defensive and loud reactions. Denial is a natural symptom of such genetic defects. So as much as I may sympathize, alas, it doesn't change the ground realities that there is geopolitical tectonic shift occurring right under india's feet.

Enjoy your denial missy.


One thing that india cannot offer Russia is a chance to become a 3 trillion dollar economy itself. Pakistan and China can.


Uhm don't look now but the u.s. needs Pakistan now more than ever to reign their worst nightmare in (afghan taliban) now Russia and China are in their corner. Sucks for because we have no intentions of helping them. I'm sure you'll help though. And if that is what you feel the russians think then good. its only a matter of time when they realize that their economy is better of aligned with us than than with you. After all, your main financial stay of h1b visas is about to go bye bye thanks to the baboon in the white house his white supremacist master whose really running the show.

US dont needs anyone's help ,they can sustain this war even for next decade .
They spared Pakistan 16 years ago .Then it was with us or against us .
Indian tech companies can sustain even with less H1 B visas.And they need our
market and resources .

What can India offer Russia other than consumer market. Nothing much,

Pakistan and China can offer Russia something much bigger and better which is access to warm seas on the Arabian Sea and CPEC.

Lol
People are guessing chickens color even before it hatches .Our business is already 50 billion$ and still counting .
China can offer something but where is Pakistan .

 

[MultaniGuy]

US dont needs anyone's help ,they can sustain this war even for next decade .
They spared Pakistan 16 years ago .Then it was with us or against us .
Indian tech companies can sustain even with less H1 B visas.And they need our
market and resources .



Lol
People are guessing chickens color even before it hatches .Our business is already 50 billion$ and still counting .
China can offer something but where is Pakistan .

Pakistan can offer CPEC .

What can India offer other than comsumer market? lol.

 

[ghameed]

What can India offer Russia other than consumer market. Nothing much,

Nothing much ..? Lol ..we're talking about the consumption power of almost 17 percent of the world

Pakistan and China can offer Russia something much bigger and better which is access to warm seas on the Arabian Sea and CPEC.

Not good enough ..please check the top 15 largest export trading partners of Russia ,by virtue of being a transcontinental nation, Russia does not require the warm seas for trade with any of them ...

 

[haviZsultan]

I doubt Russia will just abandon India after almost a century of colaboration. This is wishful thinking of Pakistans as we are tired of being a slave of the US. If we wanted Russia as an ally we should have thought about it much earlier. We have missed our shot, our opportunity with Russia. Russia will not forget that we trained the same terrorists we are fighting now on US behest to push out the Soviets of Afghanistan.

 

[SrNair]

Pakistan can offer CPEC .

What can India offer other than comsumer market? lol.

Can offer CPEC ?

Our market is even greater than your nation forget CPEC

 

[MultaniGuy]

I doubt Russia will just abandon India after almost a century of colaboration. This is wishful thinking of Pakistans as we are tired of being a slave of the US. If we wanted Russia as an ally we should have thought about it much earlier. We have missed our shot, our opportunity with Russia. Russia will not forget that we trained the same terrorists we are fighting now on US behest to push out the Soviets of Afghanistan.

Yes it is true that Russia has been a friend of India since the Cold War days, but now that is all changing.

China can be the alternative choice to USA than being USA's puppet.

Can offer CPEC ?

Our market is even greater than your nation forget CPEC

Your nation can only offer consumer market. lol

We can offer geostrategy like access to warm waters.

 

[SrNair]

Yes it is true that Russia has been a friend of India since the Cold War days, but now that is all changing.

China can be the alternative choice to USA than being USA's puppet.


Your nation can only offer consumer market. lol

We can offer geostrategy like access to warm waters.

Russia is not USSR .
And at any case they know Chinese priority in here , Russia wont become a puppet of China.

 

[cloud4000]

Your nation can only offer consumer market. lol

We can offer geostrategy like access to warm waters.

LMAO!!! Access to warm waters! Like Russia doesn't have options on warm water ports. If it wants access to warm waters, it can use Iran, who has Russia has even closer relations than China or Pakistan. Most oversold idea ever.

 

[YeBeWarned]

The problem with Pakistani's and Indian's is that they think the world is as stupid they are .. In world Geopolitics no one abandoned anyone its just matter of self interest , relationships made and broken over time , but as we both Indians and Pakistani's can never think about the bigger picture as we think from our tiny Obsessed brains .
Russia will not Abandon India nor US will abandon Pakistan for India ..