Why Russia Is Getting Closer To Pakistan And Abandoning India?

[GumNaam]

stagnant to declining population
burnt bridges with traditional friends - Ukranians, Germans
relatively powerful states on the periphery - China, India, Turkey, Western Europe, USA
growing technological gap with USA

wwwwOW! I'll leave this one to waddle in its own misery. but here, I'll be kind enough to correct a slight mistake you made.

 

[punit]

so what next Pakistan is getting from Russia after game changing deal of SU 35 !! let me guess : S-400 or a few Nuclear submarines ?

Reality is that Russia needs our defence market to survive .
We know how to play games and we are creating our own turf .In that turf noone is allowed including Russia and US .

India was always same in diplomacy.
Read #5 post .you can understand

let them marinate in their own feel good !

 

[GumNaam]

so what next Pakistan is getting from Russia after game changing deal of SU 35 !! let me guess : S-400 or a few Nuclear submarines ?


let them marinate in their own feel good !

oh why would we do that. your self proclaimed "wiseone" fellow citizen thinks Russia is a has been and week so why would we want all those things from weekling (as per your own people).

 

[punit]

Excellent point.
Despite the fact that India has 1.2 billion people, India is not in UNSC, yet a tiny country like France and UK are.

wow logic just died !

oh why would we do that. your self proclaimed "wiseone" fellow citizen thinks Russia is a has been and week so why would we want all those things from weekling (as per your own people).

so believe him and stop blowing your own trumpet !!

 

[Tiger Genie]

Grateful to God, and one more reason why the nice Indians do not deserve to have relations with the West (US/UK/EU) or Russia. Nor do we deserve you nice Indians. Please leave us alone, you are on a .pk website! Please take your anti Pakistan , anti US propaganda else where? Why worsen relations by abusing and fighting with us and coming uninvited and posting misleading items? We cannot help nor guide your kind folk, only God can. Please forgive us we have too many problems of our own.

Is there a website where Pakistanis can interact with one another without having to put up with all this conflict and contention and abuse and sarcasm and subtle verbal assaults? I know we have sinned, may our sins be forgiven and may God have mercy upon us. May God have mercy upon Pakistan and Muslims and all the people.

I'd really like to ignore you guys but for the periodic jihadis that come from your country and shoot it up; or one of your witty ministers suddely wake up and shout 'India dossier' and then fall asleep; or ...u get the picture. Stop provoking and learn to live with the straits you made yourself instead of coveting what others have. BTW NONE of what I write is anti-pakistani...because it is intended to help you.

 

[MilSpec]

Remember in the 1950s we tried to improve relations with the USSR and the Indians rioted and held Muslims hostage and threatened to massacre India based Muslims if we did not cease diplomatic relations with the USSR (I read this in a book published during the cold war in my university's library).

You should probably ask a refund for your fees from the university.

 

[GumNaam]

wow logic just died !


so believe him and stop blowing your own trumpet !!

right now, I'm just playing with my kill since it is clear that nothing of substance is coming outta you guys. your mere entertainment as you bend over backwards to blow you "trump"!

 

[Verve]

Russia is the least powerful in its history

Tell that to your policy makers and see if you can get them to cancel the S400 deal!


... and as predicted, Hallucinating Hindu has started Russia bashing ... a few months back, many of us said they would start this and the Hallucinating Hindus denied and now anti-Russia comments are becoming a bit common by them. S400 may just become a distant dream ... China may just offer Russia $5b in some other way to cancel this deal, if Russia is so desperate for funds as Hindu claims.

 

[wiseone2]

Tell that to your policy makers and see if you can get them to cancel the S400 deal!


... and as predicted, Hallucinating Hindu has started Russia bashing ... a few months back, many of us said they would start this and the Hallucinating Hindus denied and now anti-Russia comments are becoming a bit common by them. S400 may just become a distant dream ... China may just offer Russia $5b in some other way to cancel this deal, if Russia is so desperate for funds as Hindu claims.

Why would India cancel the S-400 deal ?

It is not that Russians are anti-India

Russia is desperate for money. the petroluem boom 2002-2014 masked their financial troubles.

Why would China pay Russia $5 billion to cancel the deal ?

wwwwOW! I'll leave this one to waddle in its own misery. but here, I'll be kind enough to correct a slight mistake you made.

I used the word "relative"

The gap between Russia-India has narrowed compared to anytime during the cold war

 

[ibnarastoo]

Pakistan is jumping on the Russia bandwagon when Russia is the least powerful in its history
it sounds more a desperate move on the part of Pakistan

We do not associate with people because they are powerful. We love Russia because Russia is Russia.
It is very strange that so many Indians dislike Russia when Russia has gone out of its way to help them.

This is a lesson for us Pakistanis who may avoid imitating the polytheist (may God bless them and guide them also).
Even if our allies and friends are not nice to us we must be (and have been) utterly loyal forever and never bad mouth them even in our worst moments of suffering (may God/Allah SWT give us the strength).

We already adore Russia and we will be nicer to them than Russians are nice to each other and nicer to them than the greatest lovers of Russia. That is how we treat our friends and allies. For the US , the UK , EU and the west we shed our blood ! for Afghanistan we are still fighting! for the Saudis we have sacrificed our peoples, for the Somalis even (who are not our allies) we have risked our lives . For the Jordanians and Syrians and Arabs we have risked our lives. For the Turks is available our bodies and everything for we adore them. We love our allies because we love what is entirely good and fair and most high.

We will keep our friends and Russia too will now rejoice in our love. Mother Russia & God I hope forgives us for our sins and loves us and permits us to serve and love them.

May even our enemies say of us that we are civil, loving, honorable , beautiful, pacifist, kind, generous, good and fair so our God rejoices that His inheritance is worthy.

 

[wiseone2]

We do not associate with people because they are powerful. We love Russia because Russia is Russia.
It is very strange that so many Indians dislike Russia when Russia has gone out of its way to help them.

This is a lesson for us Pakistanis who may avoid imitating the polytheist (may God bless them and guide them also).
Even if our allies and friends are not nice to us we must be (and have been) utterly loyal forever and never bad mouth them even in our worst moments of suffering (may God/Allah SWT give us the strength).

We already adore Russia and we will be nicer to them than Russians are nice to each other and nicer to them than the greatest lovers of Russia. That is how we treat our friends and allies. For the US , the UK , EU and the west we shed our blood ! for Afghanistan we are still fighting! for the Saudis we have sacrificed our peoples, for the Somalis even (who are not our allies) we have risked our lives . For the Jordanians and Syrians and Arabs we have risked our lives. For the Turks is available our bodies and everything for we adore them. We love our allies because we love what is entirely good and fair and most high.

We will keep our friends and Russia too will now rejoice in our love. Mother Russia & God I hope forgives us for our sins and loves us and permits us to serve and love them.

May even our enemies say of us that we are civil, loving, honorable , beautiful, pacifist, kind, generous, good and fair so our God rejoices that His inheritance is worthy.

Americans have done more for Pakistan than anyone else

Indians do not dislike Russia. I am sad that Russia has fallen.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Because Russia is trying to adopt the same strategy as americans. Be friends with both sides. As India do, supports Palestenian cause, and is a chaddi friend of Israel too....so its free world now.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Russia is not USSR like in the Cold War days.
To improve relations with Russia is a good thing.

 

[Verve]

Why would China pay Russia $5 billion to cancel the deal ?

Just as Indian lobbied USA to stop the sale of the F-16s to Pakistan, China may just be lobbying Russia not to sell S400 to India ... If Indian money can influence the military establishment of USA, China has a lot more money than USA (& India) and Russia would be more inclined to China in every way than India!

 

[MultaniGuy]

Just as Indian lobbied USA to stop the sale of the F-16s to Pakistan, China may just be lobbying Russia not to sell S400 to India ... If Indian money can influence the military establishment of USA, China has a lot more money than USA (& India) and Russia would be more inclined to China in every way than India!

Excellent point.

Pakistan and China are neighbors of Afghanistan. Better for Afghanistan to work with us.