Why pakistan and india are fighting over kashmir?

[Chinese-Dragon]

Oi stop using my lands as a bargaining chip, Sethi Sahib !

I'll bargain all day.

 

[Aamna Ali]

What do Pakistani's mean by Muslim land? India has more number of Muslims than Pakistan and many more so called "muslim lands" in India than Pakistan.
Kashmir was a princely state. Not a British controlled territory with an installed puppet. It chose to accede to India. All Indians including Muslims have right over it!

 

[ito]

@Armstrong

Reading through you posts shows you are intelligent.

But many of the points you made are wrong. India is not a colonel power. India is a collection of 30 'nations' or states - as we call - with each having its own culture and language. We have numerous religions. 10% of world's Muslim population call India their own country. No one has ever called India a colonel power.

We are a federal structure and we elect our representatives through elections for both national and state representation. A Kashmiri or a Muslim or a Sikh has as much right as me to become the prime minister of the country. Yes, there are some voices in Kashmir that wants to cede from India, but isn't it true that there some voices in Baluchistan that want to cede from Pakistan? Would you agree for that?

 

[Imran Khan]

because both are stupids and fooled by UK

 

[ravi kiran]

So the way I see it Pakistan tried to resolve the situation numerous times only to be rebuffed by India which was never serious about conducting a free and fair plebiscite in Kashmir

why should we conduct plebiscite in our own state??
seriously chances of plebiscite now are zero.

 

[Great Sachin]

because they like fighting each other....solve Kashmir issue...they will fight for something else

 

[DIRECT ACTION]

So all the links you gave me are about the hari singh the cruel asshole installed by the british who got nothing to do with a muslim majority kashmir .During his reign he committed atrocites against the innocent kashmiris.The kashmir fight for freedom did not start after 1948 it started the day hari singh or some his other ancestor popped up in kashmir.Despite the fact the muslim majority of kashmir opted for pakistan he tried by suppress them by using indian army.Well he invited the invasion and indian army is the main crime facilitator in this case.

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he was the ruler of the kashmir. Kashmir is not a land exclusive for Muslims, there are Hindus and Buddhists in there. and kashmir is not a musilim land. Raja hari singh had all the power to take decision behalf of his country just like king Abdullah had over saudi arabia or Salman of Saudi Arabia have. actually it is pakistan which is occupying the Kashmir illegally. they don't have any right to clam the land as kashmir is legally a part of india since 1947. Kashmirs opted for an independent state. even in Azad Kashmir they are demanding an independent country.

 

[Aamna Ali]

So all the links you gave me are about the hari singh the cruel asshole installed by the british who got nothing to do with a muslim majority kashmir .During his reign he committed atrocites against the innocent kashmiris.The kashmir fight for freedom did not start after 1948 it started the day hari singh or some his other ancestor popped up in kashmir.Despite the fact the muslim majority of kashmir opted for pakistan he tried by suppress them by using indian army.Well he invited the invasion and indian army is the main crime facilitator in this case.

I am new here but already aware of facts.

What exactly are "muslim lands"? According to you, lands populated by muslims. You are forgetting that it used to be "hindu land" according to your theory, for millenia.The name Kashmir comes from the name of a Hindu. And tell me something, why is it that it is only Pakistani muslims who cannot tolerate others from living with them? 10 million muslims live in Kashmir, 170 million in the rest of India. Should we consider them to be occupying "hindu lands"? Why is this sense of entitlement only reserved to Pakistanis ?

This is the prejudiced and bigoted worldview that is making muslim lands hell on earth. Unlike your country, we do not allot religion to lands. It is Indian land, not hindu or muslim land. The fruits of the earth belong to all, and the earth belongs to none. All Muslims in India have equal rights constitutionally and Muslims in India live and prosper in a democratic and peaceful manner.

 

[SecularNationalist]

What do Pakistani's mean by Muslim land? India has more number of Muslims than Pakistan and many more so called "muslim lands" in India than Pakistan.
Kashmir was a princely state. Not a British controlled territory with an installed puppet. It chose to accede to India. All Indians including Muslims have right over it!

Stop trolling .The questions you have raised have been answered by me in this thread many times.
India has more muslims and yes everyone knows what a pityful life they are living including you "mohtarma"
Here confused indians muslims like you come on online forums to show their patriotism

All Muslims in India have equal rights constitutionally and Muslims in India live and prosper in a democratic and peaceful manner.

Thanks for the loud laughter And the rest of your post don,t deserve my answer

 

[Aamna Ali]

Our lives are as pitiful as any other Indian and as prosperous as any other. It all depends on an individuals ambition and hard work and not which religion you subscribe to.
The real confusion we see among Muslims is in Pakistan.
You are the most divided people one earth,despite being more than 90% Muslim and presently your own country is in a war because some people think they are the real muslims and others aren't.
In this day and age, do you see any other group of people killing each other to determine who truly belongs to the group?
No, on the contrary, what it has done is to enable people to kill and persecute others for not being muslims in their opinion.
So Laugh all you want, but Indian Muslims are far better off than Muslims anywhere in the world.

 

[livingdead]

Our lives are as pitiful as any other Indian and as prosperous as any other. It all depends on an individuals ambition and hard work and not which religion you subscribe to.
The real confusion we see among Muslims is in Pakistan.
You are the most divided people one earth,despite being more than 90% Muslim and presently your own country is in a war because some people think they are the real muslims and others aren't.
In this day and age, do you see any other group of people killing each other to determine who truly belongs to the group?
No, on the contrary, what it has done is to enable people to kill and persecute others for not being muslims in their opinion.
So Laugh all you want, but Indian Muslims are far better off than Muslims anywhere in the world.

kuch jyada nahi ho gaya.. you forgot customary bharat mata ki jai at the end..

 

[suresh1773]

I respect you for being a rational indian member on PDF but this post of yours is considered trolling.
We can afford to maintain it better than india since our poverty levels are far lower than india.Also there will be no further violence over there because unlike you we will try not try to make them indians using force.You have been using rape and genocide as way to suppress the freedom cause and see the cause is greater than ever.
You don,t have basic necessities of life like toilets and you are criticizing our infra structure?

Talking & arguing like a Kid,what is yr forex reserves,what is yr GDP,Balance of Payments position(BOP) what is yr foreign investment
how do u pay yr international loans & debts,are u aware. To Pay loans,u take loans,aid from IMF, World Bank & other countries. Don't talk about poverty levels.What about extremism,Sectarian voilence & political voilence. Infact extremism & Talibanization is eating your country like a PARASITE from inside. All yr military operations including the current one This E That has been a failure.

 

[Aamna Ali]

kuch jyada nahi ho gaya.. you forgot customary bharat mata ki jai at the end..

No! I dont think Muslims have such opportunities and freedoms anywhere else in the world. Malaysians maybe our best competitors.
Iv been to Dubai and Bangladesh and havent felt more alien even though my ancestral house is in Bangladesh.

 

[livingdead]

No! I dont think Muslims have such opportunities and freedoms anywhere else in the world. Malaysians maybe our best competitors.
Iv been to Dubai and Bangladesh and havent felt more alien even though my ancestral house is in Bangladesh.

its counterintuitive to think that muslims in India have more opportunity and freedom(?) than say those in pakistan... unless one belongs to weaker section within muslims... I dont see how one can feel that way.

 

[third eye]

I find it strange that no poster here mentions the fact that with the insertion of a 3rd party namely China which controls Aksai Chin & areas illegally ceded by Pakistan the chances of a settlement other than conversion of the LC / LAC / LOC into an IB are zero.