Why Kerala has no beef with beef.

[Screambowl]

@Screambowl I thought we ended this here: Islam from the eyes of another | Page 4
If you want to continue it, do it in that thread.
I'm just going to quote what I said there:

I was asked here over Islam.. please go through the text.

 

[dray]

All of that will be history. It never happened.

We need BJP in the centre for longer periods, sanghis are making sure that BJP goes back to opposition bench again for a very long time. RSS's Hindutva ideologies never own any election in India, surely not on national level.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

You said "Then don't be a Hindu. No one is forcing you to be one", and I replied "How not to be a Hindu"? Got it?

Stop claiming to be one in public, especially when debating on Hinduism. No one cares what happens in your private personal life. Especially when you have no intention of defending it or even knowing what it stands for.

And further extends to banning all religions, including Hinduism.

No, it does not.

In others words, you want goons to protect Hinduism.

If the state won't protect, it has not choice. In Mahabharata the king who was supposed to dispense justice did not do it. His name was Didhrasthra, the blind king. Lord Krisha told Arjuna to attack and kill them all.

If the blind politicians of today do not protect Dharma, we have no choice but to follow lord Krishna's teaching.

End of the day to suffer Adharma in silence is more sinful than to wage a war in the defence of Dharma.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

most of the cows and bulls come from the 'cow belt' of India, claimed to be sangh's own turf.

Any stats to support this?

You said "Then don't be a Hindu. No one is forcing you to be one", and I replied "How not to be a Hindu"? Got it?

True. There is no way to be 'Not a Hindu'. Beef eaters are also Hindu. Of course they will be A class hypocrites (because gau mata mantras are central to any yagna or many pujas) but then so am I(for other reasons).

 

[Bitter Melon]

Sangh don't believe in caste, aren't you contradicting Mohan Bhagwat?

2. Caste is fixed anyway, you don't go up and down the ladder, and who can send you up and down? There is nobody to decide that.

3. Don't say 'Hindus', you don't represent all Hindus, neither the sangh.

btw, the biggest cow trade happens through Bangladesh border, the figures are actually in millions, and guess what, most of the cows and bulls come from the 'cow belt' of India, claimed to be sangh's own turf.

1. Who said I belong to the Sangh? Sangh by the way believes in banning cow slaughter.
2. Nope. It is not fixed. It is by birth. Then there is falling out of it. Sure as of now no one decides it, but we are moving towards a society where cow eating will be a crime. Not much different, is it?
3. I represent the larger group of Hindus who support cow ban. You are representative of a very tiny minority of Hindus who support beef eating.

Yes, we are well aware of it, but then everything in Congress rule was corrupt. With police and even BSF connivance it was everything goes rule. We are here to change it.

 

[I.R.A]

I was asked by one of the members that idol worship is haram so ban idol worship too, according to religious tolerance. Then I counter questioned, that this is also not allowed during Gyan Yog or Raj yog, and I equated this with Mohammed's meditation in cave Hira. Please read the post again.

And I can discuss Islam with Indian Muslims here, you have no authority to guide terms to me. If there is any thing they find wrong they will tell me, you need not to preach.

Sigh......................... you are an illiterate.

I would prefer discussion with @Rain Man and no discussion with you at all.

@Razia Sultana @jamahir please educate this lost soul about meditation has no space in Islam, and tell him to refrain from associating it to Prophet (PBUH). Thanks.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We need BJP in the centre for longer periods, sanghis are making sure that BJP goes back to opposition bench again for a very long time. RSS's Hindutva ideologies never own any election in India, surely not on national level.

On the contrary. The core support has been from the Hindu vote bank that got consolidated this time. BJP has no choice but to satisfy at least some of the pro Hindu ideas in their manifesto.

The beef issue itself can be put on a referendum - in the poorest of villages included. I will gladly accept the verdict and shall forever keep my calm.

 

[Bitter Melon]

In others words, you want goons to protect Hinduism.

In other words, there is no point talking to libtards.

 

[Screambowl]

1. Sangh don't believe in caste, aren't you contradicting Mohan Bhagwat?

2. Caste is fixed anyway, you don't go up and down the ladder, and who can send you up and down? There is nobody to decide that.

3. Don't say 'Hindus', you don't represent all Hindus, neither the sangh.

btw, the biggest cow trade happens through Bangladesh border, the figures are actually in millions, and guess what, most of the cows and bulls come from the 'cow belt' of India, claimed to be sangh's own turf.



You said "Then don't be a Hindu. No one is forcing you to be one", and I replied "How not to be a Hindu"? Got it?



And further extends to banning all religions, including Hinduism.



In others words, you want goons to protect Hinduism.

Bhagwat Gita , there Lord Krishna clearly prohibits it. Enough for us.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I am doing good sir how is you?

Not great. Planning to leave my job and get back to school. University actually. Lot of pressure in office as well.... Fingers crossed.

 

[Bitter Melon]

As for the beef - an interesting article, well written. But the conclusion doesn't really answer why there is no beef with beef in Kerala - how did cultural osmosis and taste overcome the factors that cause a beef with beef in other states? I suppose it isn't intended to be an in-depth article, but some explanation would've been nice.

Communism among Hindus in Kerala which made being a Hindu unfashionable. That is the answer.

 

[Screambowl]

@Razia Sultana @jamahir please educate this lost soul about meditation has no space in Islam, and tell him to refrain from associating it to Prophet (PBUH). Thanks.

No to be discussed here, but Islam from the eyes of another | Page 4

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Haha...you guys never give in, do you.
Onto the Valmiki passages:

• Sita promising Ganga meat-rice on safe return:

From Ayodhya Kandam:52: As Sita crosses Ganga she promises to Ganga what she will offer on safe return: “thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice”

Valmiki Ramayana - Ayodhya Kanda

suraaghaTasahasreNa maamsabhuutodanena cha |
yakshye tvaam prayataa devi puriim punarupaagataa || 2-52-89

89. devii= “Oh, goddess! Upaagata= After reaching; puriim= the city (Ayodhya); punaH= again; yakshhye= I shall worship (you); suraaghata sahasreNa= with thousand pots of spirituous liquor; maamsa bhuutodanena cha = and jellied meat with cooked rice; prayataa= well-prepared for the solemn rite.”

“Oh, goddess! After reaching back the city of Ayodhya, I shall worship you with thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice well prepared for the solemn rite.”

Does it say "beef" or "meat" ?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Haha...you guys never give in, do you.
Onto the Valmiki passages:

• Sita promising Ganga meat-rice on safe return:

From Ayodhya Kandam:52: As Sita crosses Ganga she promises to Ganga what she will offer on safe return: “thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice”

Valmiki Ramayana - Ayodhya Kanda

suraaghaTasahasreNa maamsabhuutodanena cha |
yakshye tvaam prayataa devi puriim punarupaagataa || 2-52-89

89. devii= “Oh, goddess! Upaagata= After reaching; puriim= the city (Ayodhya); punaH= again; yakshhye= I shall worship (you); suraaghata sahasreNa= with thousand pots of spirituous liquor; maamsa bhuutodanena cha = and jellied meat with cooked rice; prayataa= well-prepared for the solemn rite.”

“Oh, goddess! After reaching back the city of Ayodhya, I shall worship you with thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice well prepared for the solemn rite.”

Id...
I said - NOT cows. Did not say anything about abstaining from meat. As a Hindu I am obliged to protect cows as best as I can.

 

[nair]

Watching a debate inmanorama news,

Topic: Beef ban