Why Kerala has no beef with beef.

[mooppan]

It wont fly away like your mundu.

'Mundu' is very much like 'Kache panche'..Both will fly,But the former looks more beautiful and traditional....

 

[SrNair]

'Mundu' is very much like 'Kache panche'..Both will fly,But the former looks more beautiful and traditional....

Look like she is our old Goddess Indrani

 

[jaatram]

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

I have read about the challenges he faced when he was in Nalanda .Always criticised by conservatives for his revolutionary thinking.

Please provide link or reference to your claim.

 

[SrNair]

Please provide link or reference to your claim.

Please find sometime to read the real book in next library .Yo will get it.It was a biography of Aryabhatta in my near library.

I will post the link in here if I can find the parts of it in internet.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Gobbledegook!!
When did 700 million hindus vote for ban on beef??
BJP came to power because the minorities had also voted for 'em or else a landslide victory wasn't possible.

I was explaining democracy to you by that example. Except for some Shias, minorities did not vote for BJP. Secular votes got divided.

If things were so easy for farmers then why do so many farmers commit suicide?
Keeping an old cow can cost as much as Rs.6000 more for a farmer.
And has the govt paid any compensation for the unseasonal rains that destroyed farmers crops three months ago in Maharashtra??
These farmers 're struggling to feed their family members, how can we feed old bulls and cows??

Farmers are definitely not commiting suicide because the cows eat the straw. Old cow does not cost anything to the farmer. It still shits, does it not. The dung is used as fuel in most village homes even now. Also as manure. That itself is worth enough to keep it alive. What are unseasnonal rains and destroyed crops to do with beef? The farmers do not feed the cattle rice and chapati and chicken for you to be so distraught about it. India is naturally endowed with abundance of vegetation, both weeds, grass, shrubs. The cows are self sufficient.

But why?? Why should you force your dietary habits on them??
Ban on beef would send the prices of other meat northwards. So how does the govt plan to curb that trend?

Because this is India and India has a special place for Cows. If you would have read the link I gave you earlier on you would know people died of starvation in famines but did not kill their cows. That is how much important the cows are for a Hindu. I mean a normal Hindu. Not the commie Chrislamist Hindu.

Proof?
And btw there's a lack of uniformity among State laws governing cattle slaughter. Assam, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal permit the slaughter of cows of over a certain age. Though slaughter of calves 're banned, which is fine. I think I would support this policy over a complete ban.
Btw if there's a nationwide ban on the slaughter of cow and its progeny then for selfish reasons cows and calves would be maimed by the their owners, so that they could be declared useless. This way instead of protecting the cow, you're hurting it more. Smuggling of beef would add to govt.'s woes. And then like the ban on liquor was lifted same way the ban on beef will be revoked.

I am not able to post links. Google for this: Delhi-high-court-rejects-urgent-hearing-pil-lift-ban-indias-daughter-625746

Nope. In general Hindus refuse to sell the cows to Muslims and others. It is only some commie HIndus who become middlemen and obtain the cows from the farmers. Otherwise, Indian farmer will fight tooth and nail to save the cow. Do you hear any rumblings on cow ban in Maharashtra? Any protests by farmers? The only ones protesting here are Chrislamist mallus. No one else.

You sense of economics is rather weak too. Also logical explanations fall on deaf ears as far as you are concerned.

Whoever told you that these balls were made from the leather of old cows which died natural death.

I said it can be in the future.

 

[mooppan]

Look like she is our old Goddess Indrani

Ammachi,Sree halikku pola vali yethu???

 

[nair]

This thread has served it purpose, Beef will be available in plenty across kerala. Similarly pork also will be available across Kerala.

Those who eat beef (including hindu's) will keep eating beef.
Those who eat pork also (including hindu's) will keep eating beef.

Kerala will be a secular state, u like it or not

 

[Bitter Melon]

'Mundu' is very much like 'Kache panche'..Both will fly,But the former looks more beautiful and traditional....

I am a chaddi. What does it matter which flying mundu you are wear to me.

 

[dray]

Not really. No one expects Hinduism or Hindus to survive in either of the two country. Any criticism is perfunctory and knee jerk.



That is your problem. More worried about "how it looks" that what it really is.



Then don't be a Hindu. No one is forcing you to be one.

In Hinduism it is treated as a subject that is part of the inherent value system of Hinduism a.k.a Dharma. Rat's and Snakes are not domestic animals under the protection of Hindus.

1. Yes, we ought to criticize if they ban Idol Worship, because it is violative of our religion. Beef ban is not violative of their religion. It is not compulsory to eat beef nor is it a pillar of Islam.
2. India is far from being Saudi Arabia in matters of religious freedom. Eating beef is not religious freedom and you are barking up the wrong tree if you claim beef is what Islam or Christianity is all about.
3. Beef is not just food. It is intrinsic part of Hindu religion and culture. There is prohibition on its killing and that will be followed.

4. Well you put an argument that we should ban idol worship which I believe is very distasteful for a Bengali like you, aspiring monotheist that you guys tend to be, and I was only countering that. If idols could be banned in India, then I do not see the harm in banning Islam either. Rather it becomes compulsory. See I do not want our country to turn into Saudi Arabia either.

1. Hinduism is not a religion as per the sangh. And how not to become a Hindu @MokshaVimukthi ? Hinduism doesn't have bullet points to decide who is Hindu and who is not.

2. @Bitter Melon it was @Screambowl who argued that beef should be banned for all as it hurts the feelings of Hindus, and he was open to ban things that are haram for Muslims, and here comes the argument of idol worship.

3. Above all, the main point is; what might be banned for Hindus should not and must not extend to the Indians of other communities and vice versa.

 

[Bitter Melon]

1. Hinduism is not a religion as per the sangh. And how not to become a Hindu @MokshaVimukthi ? Hinduism doesn't have bullet points to decide who is Hindu and who is not.

2. @Bitter Melon it was @Screambowl who argued that beef should be banned for all as it hurts the feelings of Hindus, and he was open to ban things that are haram for Muslims, and here comes the argument of idol worship.

3. Above all, the main point is; what might be banned for Hindus should not and must not extend to the Indians of other communities and vice versa.

1. It has a caste system where cow eaters get thrown out of the caste. This can be validated both through history as well as scriptures.
2. It was only to that argument I replied.
3. If it was a dressing style or a housing style or whatever, I do not think Hindus would have cared much about differences. But this is a matter of a living being. A being very dear to us. You cannot compare it with secular stuff.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Please find sometime to read the real book in next library .Yo will get it.It was a biography of Aryabhatta in my near library.

I will post the link in here if I can find the parts of it in internet.

That would be strange because Aryabhatta was in Kusumpura and not in Nalana and there is no recorded evidence of any scholarly work that criticise Aryabhata.

1. Hinduism is not a religion as per the sangh. And how not to become a Hindu @MokshaVimukthi ? Hinduism doesn't have bullet points to decide who is Hindu and who is not.

Strawman. Irrelevant noise.

You want to tag me, quote me.

2. @Bitter Melon it was @Screambowl who argued that beef should be banned for all as it hurts the feelings of Hindus, and he was open to ban things that are haram for Muslims, and here comes the argument of idol worship.

and that logical argument extended to banning islam too.

3. Above all, the main point is; what might be banned for Hindus should not and must not extend to the Indians of other communities and vice versa.

The only alternative to that is vigilante justice.

 

[Richard Parker]

In Kerala, a Beef-Eating Fest to Protest Against Beef Ban

Thiruvananthapuram: Beef cooked in the open and Hindus and Muslims sitting together for a meal - this was how a section of people in Kerala protested today against the recent ban on the meat in Maharashtra.

Beef in Kerala means both cows and buffaloes and its consumption has no religious overtones. Not only do some Hindus here eat beef, going by sales figures, it is also the most-favoured meat in the state.

The annual sale of beef is estimated at 2.3 lakh metric tonnes against the corresponding figure for poultry -- 1.51 lakh metric tonnes.

"I am a Hindu. I should be given the freedom to eat whatever I want, even when I am eating this," said Ajith P from Kannur, who was at the protest of DYFI, the state CPM's youth wing, at Thiruvananthapuram on Tuesday.

Sharing the dish with him was Ajeeth Muhammad. Though a supporter of Muslim League, he said he didn't mind backing a cause. "None of us here have issues with beef consumption. It is part of Kerala's culture. How can we be stopped from eating something we want to?" he said.

Heading the protest, DYFI's B Biju said, "This is a token protest against the ban of beef in Maharashtra and a warning for anyone who would want to implement the same in Kerala. Any ban our food will not be acceptable."

A state panchayat law lays clear guidelines for slaughterhouses - that an animal can't be slaughtered unless it is over 10 years old, or has been made unfit for work or breeding due to injury or deformity.

Digging into the beef curry before returning to the Assembly, CPM legislator P Sreeramakrishnan said, "I eat my beef. And so do many others in Kerala. Nothing will change."

Last week, President Pranab Mukherjee ratified the Maharashtra Animal Preservation (Amendment) Bill which bans the slaughter of calves and bullocks.

Anyone found selling or eating beef can be jailed for five years and fined Rs. 10,000. Only the consumption of buffaloes, which give inferior quality beef, will be allowed.

Beef traders - thousands of whom will be jobless - and a section of people in social media have protested against the ban, with hashtag #BeefBan trending for a while on Twitter.

 

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@jamahir @Guynextdoor2

 

[I.R.A]

I don't believe that, but that is what my argument is with the muslims. That he became Paigambar after meditating not reading Quran. But What they have as an interpretation is just '' chosen one''

I was going to reply to you the other day, I had typed it and then deleted. But now looking at your comments again I would like to know what are your basis to give statements about Prophet Muhammad S.A.W? How much research did you do on Muhammad S.A.W and what is your source(s)?

What do you know about his childhood? What do you know about His (PBUH) pre prophet hood life? What is your definition of meditation? How he was different from his own people he lived among? Do you even have the slightest idea what is the difference between a messenger and a prophet? What do you know about orders He (PBUH) he got and followed from Quran and lead by example? Please give individual answers to my questions.

@Akheilos @TankMan @syedali73 (sorry I am tagging you, but this guy should have been stopped from carrying this argument to other non relevant threads the other day.)