Why Kerala has no beef with beef.

[MokshaVimukthi]

No disagreement there, but practice of Sati itself never became "culture" so to speak.

It was a RARE cultural practice. But the women who did it was revered by society. But there is no text that speaks of that being compulsory or even widely practiced. That bit most certainly came during or after the islamic invasion.

 

[Bitter Melon]

It was a RARE cultural practice. But the women who did it was revered by society. But there is no text that speaks of that being compulsory or even widely practiced. That bit most certainly came during or after the islamic invasion.

When it is rare, it is deviation or exception and not a culture. Culture is something that is common place.

 

[doppelganger]

Also makes me wonder in my skeptical moments, if these guys really had so much power as we believe, how did they allow so much evil to happen in India?

I'll freely admit I do not know much about them. Nor am I trying to make them some sort of satanic superman cult here. But I've seen peers, fakirs, babas up close and personal in the city. Some are dhongi. Others scare the crap out of you. Yet others are there standing between you and darkness ......

 

[Lord ZeN]

That is not my article. Obviously the OP is trolling. Sorry to disappoint. Think about it, have I ever tried to convince anyone? I take more pleasure in brawling and trolling. So such an article is very unlike me . I think the poor bugger who wrote this article will be eventually beaten up by some poor thug who thinks the author is me . I have enemies everywhere in the internet

Well realized it later bro..At first OP indeed fooled me. The OP just wanted to troll poor Mallu Nairs for their dangerous level of Secularism But i intentionally left my post untouched to surprise aka troll you... You do realize that i'm a low life Hindutvawadi troll. Nothing else other than Modi ji matters to me.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

When it is rare, it is deviation or exception and not a culture. Culture is something that is common place.

When the option of a ritualistic killing exist, it becomes a part of your culture. Rare but relevent.

Like the Japanese Seppuku. (very rare, not as common as one would think)

Killing the self could also be a protest against society, a protest against an unjust invasion etc. it could also be a act of love and despair. But we cannot deny it its place in our culture just because modern sensibility do not permit it. It does have its origin in Hinduism.

 

[Screambowl]

It varies society to society. In etopia, it is okay to abduct a woman and marry her. Not in this part of the world. It was good to perform Sati two centuries back but not now. There is no dearth of brain, but wisdom.

that's why Indian civilisation was one of the most advance.. they knew what is right and wrong. Sati, is not a noble practice rather it was something which was against Hinduism.

And these things are not related to beef.

 

[wolfschanzze]

I 've cleared it inthis post as to why I'd mentioned animal sacrifices.


Sarthak the real issue was not the translations/animal sacrifices, but rituals like these which were a part hinduism (like the aghoris), and hindus used to eat meat which is a well known fact. I don't think anyone has denied that on this thread other than wolfyy.
I've yet to understand why beef was banned? As I've said this many times earlier on this thread, its an economically unsound decision and I do not see why govt fails to see the repercussions this decision will 've on poor farmers, and ofcourse those who make a living out of this.
Is it really just about religion?? and forcing one's dietary habits on others??
I hope it is not, because if so then we 're going to be the next Pakistan.
Edit:
I already know about article 48A.


Get this loud and clear that rituals like animal sacrifices were a part of hinduism and so also eating meat.

1) Thats an assumption.
2) Why do you want them to look for new source of animal protein???


So to you this decision is all about religion???
You've not answered my questions
1) what happens to the poor farmers who can not afford to keep old cows? what should they do with those old emaciated cows???
2) How economically sound is this decision??
I am expecting answers this time.


Libtards blah blah...Anything else???
Remember Delhi elections???
And how members within BJP were also murmuring that it was high time BJP leaders got off their high horses and minded their hubris???
BJP was voted to power by the ppl for development of the country. Modi has reiterated that its India first for his government and assured everyone that religion is a personal choice. Remember??


Oooops!
I thought the author Anil Nair was you. (Though I remember reading your name as something else on twitter, some member had once posted your tweets during the elections).

I gave you my answers before, Yet you keep asking for more clarification.Posted a lot of stuff in previous thread which was locked,you can go check it out for answers.

 

[Bitter Melon]

When the option of a ritualistic killing exist, it becomes a part of your culture. Rare but relevent.

Like the Japanese Seppuku. (very rare, not as common as one would think)

Killing the self could also be a protest against society, a protest against an unjust invasion etc. it could also be a act of love and despair. But we cannot deny it its place in our culture just because modern sensibility do not permit it. It does have its origin in Hinduism.

No, no, no. Suicide which is what Sati is, is not restricted to just India. It is prevalent all over the world, so it cannot be called a part of a specific culture.

There are umpteen Chinese movies where the heroine or the hero kills himself after the death of his/her beloved. Likewise in the West, including their pagan folklore. Romeo and Juliet is one example. Calling it ritualistic killing is wrong. Because if it was ritualistic, all women would commit suicide after being widowed. That certainly was not the case.

Culture is what is commonplace. Like Godhbari/Shrimanta in Hinduism. Mehendi/Bidayi in Hindu/Sikh/Muslim customs of India.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

No, no, no. Suicide which is what Sati is, is not restricted to just India. It is prevalent all over the world, so it cannot be called a part of a specific culture.

There are umpteen Chinese movies where the heroine or the hero kills himself after the death of his/her beloved. Likewise in the West, including their pagan folklore. Romeo and Juliet is one example. Calling it ritualistic killing is wrong. Because if it was ritualistic, all women would commit suicide after being widowed. That certainly was not the case.

Culture is what is commonplace. Like Godhbari/Shrimanta in Hinduism. Mehendi/Bidayi in Hindu/Sikh/Muslim customs of India.

I meant the rare Ritual suicide by burning yourself with your husband, Though I am sure lover killing self is not India specific. Ever certain species of animals and birds are known to do it. But it does have a history and religious significant in India and hence a place in our culture.

Consider the concept of taking Samadhi, it is rare, but that too is part of our culture.

 

[Bitter Melon]

I meant the rare Ritual suicide by burning yourself with your husband, Though I am sure lover killing self is not India specific. Ever certain species of animals and birds are known to do it. But it does have a history and religious significant in India and hence a place in our culture.

Consider the concept of taking Samadhi, it is rare, but that too is part of our culture.

Ritual suicide by burning was part of Nordic folklore too. Lovers included spouses too.

 

[sajan]

Adi Shankara existed because generations of Hindus in North India shed their blood to keep Kerala safe from Islamic rule. Had that not happened, kerala never stood a chance as amply demonstrated by Tipu.

British hardly ruled kerala and the christians population became 20%.

The geographical barriers did not insulate Kerala from the Chola's so its foolish to assume it would have prevented anybody else.

Arab trade only introduced islam to kerala, not convert a significant population to islam.

Finally the fairy tales of St. Thomas has been thrashed time and again in pdf. Stop dragging in fantasies to substitute history.

As for the "violent culture", its funny you should even pretend to claim such things when political killings are a daily reality in Kerala. lol. ...... right from college campuses to Panchayat elections. A state where 98% of your women feel unsafe has no right to sermonise on "violent culture" being imported.

Whatever... I see no point in arguing with you. You do a fine job of proving your complete ignorance on your own. I have other works to do. Carry on with your ignorance.

 

[NKVD]

HC refuses to grant relief to beef dealers over the ban | The Indian Express

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Sarthak the real issue was not the translations/animal sacrifices, but rituals like these which were a part hinduism (like the aghoris), and hindus used to eat meat which is a well known fact. I don't think anyone has denied that on this thread other than wolfyy.
I've yet to understand why beef was banned? As I've said this many times earlier on this thread, its an economically unsound decision and I do not see why govt fails to see the repercussions this decision will 've on poor farmers, and ofcourse those who make a living out of this.
Is it really just about religion?? and forcing one's dietary habits on others??
I hope it is not, because if so then we 're going to be the next Pakistan.

Many points -
1. Hindus eat meat. They are human. Humans eat meat. Period. But offering meat to God is not kosher. I used to eat meat. But never did I look to the Vedas for a confirmation. I ate because I liked to eat.
2. Why was beef banned? It's because our Constitution guarantees the protection of cattle. - This is the primary reason. A vast majority of the poor farmers voted for BJP - far more than city folks did. UP is one prime example...the heart of the so called 'cow belt'. Ditto for the rest of the rural population. Shows how much the cow is revered in the interior of the country. Over and above materialistic gains.
3. If for saving the cow, we become a Pakistan, I will gladly accept that as destined and will happily look forward to it.

HC refuses to grant relief to beef dealers over the ban | The Indian Express

Secularism has died on the plate of the seculars.

That was not the point I was telling. You cant forget the fact that there is no 'ban' for anysuch thing in Hinduism.

Of course there is no such ban. Just as there is no such ban on 'cannibalism' per se.
Dr. Lecter would be so happy.

 

[sherin616]

no. just live under Indian law.



you were lucky we were in between you and Muslim invaders. we were busy fighting Muslim invaders and you were busy collecting gold.



this is the real reason of conflict between Muslims and other religions. you consider every non-muslim as KAFIR and you cant just live with them.



partition was done on the basis of religion. you became muslim country. we also want to become Hindu country so what is wrong in it? once we become Hindu nation we will give minorities every right just like pakistan is giving to their minorities. so tell me what is wrong in it???


beheading people is way of thinking?? and when bjp behead any non hindu?

They want muslim country under muslim way of thinking and bjp want a hindu country under hindu ideology

1) no dancing

2) women shouldn't get out side after 6 pm

3) cont eat beef & cant eat pork in isis

4) behead non belivers isis # burn christian pasters burn people who do intercast marrages and inter religion marriages its sme similarities

 

[NKVD]

1) no dancing

Have you ever See ladies Sangeet in Marriages

2) women shouldn't get out side after 6 pm

Exaggeration Except Few Goons no body wants It hindu Societies Improved many Malpractices Like Sati,Widow Remarriage Completely changed their Hindu Marriage ACT Which Mostly grants Women hereditary Rights after Marriage.

hindu country under hindu ideology

their is no single Ideology for hindus you forget