Why is Quaid-e-Azam MA Jinnah so closely tied with Zoroastrian elite

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

His wife was from an extremely prominent Zoroastrian family..His bloodline completely merged into the oldest (and one of the greatest) industrial dynasty of South Asia....This affinity for Zoroastrianism,its culture and also the modern,progressive ways of the Parsi elite must have had some atavistic cause......Was he a descendant of Iranian converts?

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

is this here an indo-irani propaganda machine or Pakistan defense forum? M. A. Jinnah converted from a Sevener to twelver Jafaari Muslim and it is a documented fact

Thanks for the info..If I have stated anything other than facts then do please point it out

EDIT: your red highlighted part is just a shot in the dark as to why things turned out that way

 

[Dalit]

His wife was from an extremely prominent Zoroastrian family..His bloodline completely merged into the oldest (and one of the greatest) industrial dynasty of South Asia....This affinity for Zoroastrianism,its culture and also the modern,progressive ways of the Parsi elite must have had some atavistic cause......Was he a descendant of Iranian converts?

You talk a lot from your rear.

 

[Progressive1]

he was a sindhi origin lohana with family migrated to Gujarat

 

[airmarshal]

My grand father and my father both came from Amritsar. They settled in Karachi. Almost all my father's friends were Zoroastrians in Karachi.

Friendships and being good neighbors should not be dependent on faith. People of our parents era were not as polarized as our generation is on identity and faith.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

There is no evidence to suggest so.

 

[El Sidd]

His wife was from an extremely prominent Zoroastrian family..His bloodline completely merged into the oldest (and one of the greatest) industrial dynasty of South Asia....This affinity for Zoroastrianism,its culture and also the modern,progressive ways of the Parsi elite must have had some atavistic cause......Was he a descendant of Iranian converts?

Guten Morgen RSS Nazi,

You needed a whole thread to ask this simple question?

For someone who can dig out Shiva temples in Afghanistan, you couldn't find out simple background information on one of the most influential man of the last century and some credited it with changing the map of the world.

So will India use the missing 8000 Muslim men from Delhi to stage a false flag?

 

[Hamza913]

His wife was from an extremely prominent Zoroastrian family..His bloodline completely merged into the oldest (and one of the greatest) industrial dynasty of South Asia....This affinity for Zoroastrianism,its culture and also the modern,progressive ways of the Parsi elite must have had some atavistic cause......Was he a descendant of Iranian converts?

Wealth attracts wealth, he just happened to be affluent and as a result married someone else of a similar socioeconomic background. Ik another Pakistani who is also married to a Parsi.

 

[Mentee]

You talk a lot from your rear.

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[Shahzaz ud din]

His wife was from an extremely prominent Zoroastrian family..His bloodline completely merged into the oldest (and one of the greatest) industrial dynasty of South Asia....This affinity for Zoroastrianism,its culture and also the modern,progressive ways of the Parsi elite must have had some atavistic cause......Was he a descendant of Iranian converts?

Jinnah's paternal grandfather was from a (sub caste of Baniyas) from Paneli Moti village in Gondal state in Kathiawar in Gujarat, India.[4] He had made his fortune in the fish business, but he was boycotted from his vegetarian Hindu Lohana caste because of their strong religious beliefs. When he discontinued his fish business and tried to come back to his caste, he was not allowed to do so. Resultantly, his son, Punjalal Thakkar (the father of Jinnah), was so angry with the humiliation that he changed his and his four son's religion, and converted to Islam.[4] Jinnah’s father Poonjabhai Jinno was a first generation Muslim with Khoja Ismaili Firqa belief.Jinnah's paternal grandfather was from a (sub caste of Baniyas) from Paneli Moti village in Gondal
Poonjabhai "Jinno" (also referred to as Jina Poonja[9]), a Lohana (1857–1902), was married to Mithhibai.[10]

• m. Mithhibai
• Poonjabhai Thakkar was a prosperous Gujarati merchant. His Gujarati-language nickname "Zino" or "Jinno" means ‘Skinny.’ He moved to Karachi from Kathiawar, because of his business partnership with Grams Trading Company whose regional office was set up in Karachi. He moved to Karachi before Muhammad Ali Jinnah's birth. He and his wife had 7 children:[11
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• Emibai Jinnah was born in 1878 in Paneli Moti, a village in Rajkot district of Gujarat, during the time of British India.[9]
  Fact File: "In his youth, Mohammad Ali Jinnah was married to a distant cousin named Emibai from Paneli village in Gujarat at his mother's urging. At the time of their marriage, Jinnah was only 16 and Emibai was 14. The marriage was arranged by his mother because she feared that when Jinnah went to England, he might end up marrying an English girl. The couple hardly lived together as Jinnah sailed from India soon after his marriage and Emibai died few weeks later
  When she was 14 years of age, Muhammad Ali Jinnah's mother Mithibai Jinnah was urging him to marry his cousin Emibai.[10] Jinnah complied with his mother's wishes and married Emibai at Paneli Village.[11][12] Shortly after the wedding, Muhammad Ali Jinnah left for England to engage in higher academic studies.[8][9], and a few months later Emibai died.
  
  
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• Rattanbai "Ruttie" Jinnah or Maryam Jinnah, (born as Rattanbai Petit, 1900-1929) was the second wife of Muhammad Ali Jinnah—an important figure in the creation of Pakistan and the country's founder. The couple's only daughter and child was Dina Wadia, who died in 2017.
  
  Rattanbai was the daughter of Lady Dina Petit and Sir Dinshaw Petit 2nd Baronet Petit, who in turn, was the son of Dinshaw Maneckji Petit, a member of the Petit family and the founder of the first cotton mills in India.

Mohammad Ali Jinnah's Home in India

he was a sindhi origin lohana with family migrated to Gujarat

His ancestors actually moved from Sahiwal (Punjab) to Gujrat.

 

[jaibi]

Taking your question seriously, I think I can answer you. You see at the time the class system in the British Raj India was working and a 'middle class' usually of mid-level businessmen, lawyers, writers and doctors had formed. These people saw themselves as the 'middle ground': they were desi, yes but had gotten a western education and were interested in the civic progression of the society (Nelson Mandela was also from such a community in SA). Now, as far as Muslims were concerned then they usually tied themselves to persian culture because the Mughals gave it official status during their time; hence, it was the lingua franca of the Muslim upper brass. As a result, the parsi community was given respect as being the closest to that lost era. I'm not claiming that that's why Quaid-e-Azam had zorastrian friends but that was the back drop even as things progressed and the communities became more and more assimilated (via adopting English) those old contacts and prestige remained. Thirdly, Quaid-e-Azam was a practicing lawyer and had many clients, he was metropolitan and, building on that, he was maintaining contacts with key members of other minorities of India as well in order to be a balance in terms of negotiations and potential political positioning (i.e. there was a notion of all minorities banding together to negotiate, regional politics such as that of Bengal had an this angle as well). If you research his life, it appears he was quite open about forming friendships with various groups of people. You can see a similar lifestyle with both M. Gandhi and J. Nehru as well. The 'atavistic cause' you're referring to may be more due to our retrospection rather than true historical pressure of the time, in my opinion. Just my thoughts.

Regards.

His wife was from an extremely prominent Zoroastrian family..His bloodline completely merged into the oldest (and one of the greatest) industrial dynasty of South Asia....This affinity for Zoroastrianism,its culture and also the modern,progressive ways of the Parsi elite must have had some atavistic cause......Was he a descendant of Iranian converts?