Why is KSA hosting Pak, Turk and Egypt leaders in same week?

[ibo135]

What [Saudis] care about is to maintain the status quo hostility between Iran and the West because in such a dynamic it keeps Iran economically and politically isolated from the region.

There is no hostility between Iran and the West. The hostility is as real as American Wrestling (WWF). There is blood and injuries but at the end the fight is scripted. If the hostility is real then the West had 36 years to do something. In 36 years the West executed its ex-ally secular Saddam Hussein and executed its ex-ally secular Muammar Gaddafi. In 36 years the West has done ZERO to Iran.

Let us not forget during the Iran-Iraq war Khomeini got his weapons from Israel. You know zionists or zionazis. Iran helped the West with the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran currently controls both Afghanistan and Iraq. So much for political isolation.

Economic isolation is also fiction. Before the West was waging economic warfare on Russia, the West and its allies like the Sauds were waging economic warfare on Erdogan and Turkey. There would be no Erdogan or Turkey if not for Qatar. Erdogan and Turkey was trading with Iran through a Turk named Reza Zarrab and his Iranian counter-part Babak Morteza Zanjani. Guess what the economically isolated Iranians did. Iranians exposed their own agent and then arrested him. So much for economic isolation.

Note that as Erdogans and Turkeys relations with the West deteriorates, Irans PUBLIC relations with the West increases.

Shia identity is based on victimhood. "We waz robbed". This is what Iran is given so it dont implode.

 

[SouI]

Guess what the economically isolated Iranians did. Iranians exposed their own agent and then arrested him.

Yea, that might be the biggest idiocy ever made by mankind in human-history..

I still have no idea why they would want to do such a stupid thing...

 

[MastanKhan]

Iran is gonna get pissed off at this.

Hi,

Iran is always pissed off.

 

[ResurgentIran]

There is no hostility between Iran and the West. The hostility is as real as American Wrestling (WWF). There is blood and injuries but at the end the fight is scripted. If the hostility is real then the West had 36 years to do something. In 36 years the West executed its ex-ally secular Saddam Hussein and executed its ex-ally secular Muammar Gaddafi. In 36 years the West has done ZERO to Iran.

Let us not forget during the Iran-Iraq war Khomeini got his weapons from Israel. You know zionists or zionazis. Iran helped the West with the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran currently controls both Afghanistan and Iraq. So much for political isolation.

Economic isolation is also fiction. Before the West was waging economic warfare on Russia, the West and its allies like the Sauds were waging economic warfare on Erdogan and Turkey. There would be no Erdogan or Turkey if not for Qatar. Erdogan and Turkey was trading with Iran through a Turk named Reza Zarrab and his Iranian counter-part Babak Morteza Zanjani. Guess what the economically isolated Iranians did. Iranians exposed their own agent and then arrested him. So much for economic isolation.

Note that as Erdogans and Turkeys relations with the West deteriorates, Irans PUBLIC relations with the West increases.

Shia identity is based on victimhood. "We waz robbed". This is what Iran is given so it dont implode.

Iran's central bank is sanctioned. Meaning any country doing business with Iran, will be sanctioned itself from the US.
Now off course there is still some trade with Iran, as sanctions are not followed to 100 %. Iran is still doing some business with China, Korea, Japan, Turkey etc.
But the Iranian economy is not anywhere near its potential. Europe does not trade with Iran in any meaningful way.
And Iran's trade with East Asia is not also any where near where it could be.
Not to mention Iran is also sanctioned from SWIFT so it cant do transactions like it used to.
Iran has just found some creative ways to circumvent and blunt the effect of the sanctions.
I will not include the US, because I dont expect Iran and US to reopen diplomatic relations and trade relationship for a long time to come. Such things will take a lot of time, given the political atmosphere. Even if the nuclear related sanctions (central bank + other banks, oil exports etc) are lifted the US are still going to have their older sanctions that forbids American companies from entering the Iranian market.
The point is that once all sanctions are lifted, the Iranian economy will obviously be bigger than what it is today. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

A huge lol @ your conspiracy theories about Iran collaborating with US in overthrowing Saddam.
The only place where there was collaboration was in Afghanistan, when Iran helped mobilized the northern alliance to overthrow the government of the taliban. Other than that, Iran had no part in US invasion of Iraq.
In fact, it was Iraq's Arab "brothers" like Kuwait etc that allowed to host US forces from which they invade and occupy Iraq. So much for Arab brotherhood .
So get your facts right next time.

And I wont even respond to your Shia remark, which was unprovoked. It would be beneath me.
In fact, I will go right ahead and put you on ignore list right now.

 

[Hell NO]

Turks are expecting major strategic realignment in the region.


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Hakan Fidan the ex-head of Milli Istihbarat Teskilati (MIT = national intelligence) was also in Saudi Arabia. Hakan Fidan in purple shirt. This is not good for Sisi. For Erdogan, Hakan Fidan is probably more important to him than Prime Minister Ahmed Davudoglu. Erdogan would probably adopt Hakan Fidan if he could. The two are that close. It is reported that Erdogan sent Hakan Fidan to Egypt to warn Morsi of the coming coup. Everyone knows how Erdogan feels in regards to Morsi. People bring out their finest china for their most important guests. That is what Hakan Fidan is. The very best of the Turkish State. His presence in Saudi Arabia means something major is happening.

Erdogan is a "dava adami". He is fighting for a cause. Erdogans relations with King Abdullah became hostile cos the Sauds supported the coup on Morsi. The price for normalization of relations is Sisi. Erdogan as a Turk as a Hanafi as a Maturidi as a Nakshibandi is also not happy with the ideology of the Sauds. Relations deteriorated till King Abdullah was hospitalized and Prince Salman ran the country. Then Erdogan sent Turkish warships for port calls in Saudi Arabia. Erdogan went to the funeral of King Abdullah and ordered Turkish flags at half-mast for the man that couped Morsi and supported Sisi. Erdogan goes to Saudi Arabia for talks. Hakan Fidan is there.

There is no way Erdogan would do any of these things unless King Salman accepted his terms for normalisation of relations.

Saudi Arabias strategic realignment was predicted in 2013. Those interested let us know so it is posted.




It is possible Nawaz Sharif is part of the strategic realignment in the region. Turkish Prime Minister Ahmed Davudoglu was in Pakistan with Nawaz Sharif in february signing major agreements. It is possible this meeting in march was discussed. Otherwise Salman meeting Sisi, Erdogan, Sharif in three days dont make sense. Time will tell.




What Salman probably said to the respective leaders.
Sisi: I want a divorce. You can still use the mansion and see each other on weekends but dont let Erdogan see.
Erdogan: I want to join the Turkish-Qatar team. Military alliance? Umm.. with Sharif on the list thought it was a cricket team.
Sharif: Erdogan and Qatars Tamim are creating a cricket team. Interested? Turks are bringing Tandoor Kofta. Turkish-Qatar armies outside? Cheerleaders.

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1-yes it looks like king salman wants to cut ties with sissi that's why he welcomed sissi in saudi arabia himself in the airport.

U must be a special kind of stupid
2- egypt is not a small country and I think thr GCC understand that

Egyptain king photo with the saudi royal family

That's a photo of King salman as a volunteer in the egyptian army. Egypt and saudi arabia are one country and we have a long history of solidarity in hard times saudi arabia needs egypt and egypt needs saudi arabia

 

[waz]

Sorry bro. You are right.
PS. People like Nawaz, and Zarvan are always on my nerves and make me flip.

No problem bro.

 

[ibo135]

Iran's central bank is sanctioned. Meaning any country doing business with Iran, will be sanctioned itself from the US.
Now off course there is still some trade with Iran, as sanctions are not followed to 100 %. Iran is still doing some business with China, Korea, Japan, Turkey etc.
But the Iranian economy is not anywhere near its potential. Europe does not trade with Iran in any meaningful way.
And Iran's trade with East Asia is not also any where near where it could be.
Not to mention Iran is also sanctioned from SWIFT so it cant do transactions like it used to.
Iran has just found some creative ways to circumvent and blunt the effect of the sanctions.
I will not include the US, because I dont expect Iran and US to reopen diplomatic relations and trade relationship for a long time to come. Such things will take a lot of time, given the political atmosphere. Even if the nuclear related sanctions (central bank + other banks, oil exports etc) are lifted the US are still going to have their older sanctions that forbids American companies from entering the Iranian market.
The point is that once all sanctions are lifted, the Iranian economy will obviously be bigger than what it is today. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

Is there a point? Typical obfuscation.

The West was waging economic warfare on Erdogan and Turkey. Erdogan and Turkey was secretly trading with Iran through a Turk named Reza Zarrab and his Iranian counter-part Babak Morteza Zanjani. Iranians exposed and arrested their own agent. Babak Morteza Zanjani is in prison since 2013. His arrest and imprisonment a milestone in Irans PUBLIC relations with the West.


It is agreed this is a true statement since it didnt get the usual "conspiracy theory" treatment.

...during the Iran-Iraq war Khomeini got his weapons from Israel. You know zionists or zionazis.

Can we get a "Down with Israel, Down with America" from someone in Iran?

A huge lol @ your conspiracy theories about Iran collaborating with US in overthrowing Saddam.
The only place where there was collaboration was in Afghanistan, when Iran helped mobilized the northern alliance to overthrow the government of the taliban. Other than that, Iran had no part in US invasion of Iraq.
In fact, it was Iraq's Arab "brothers" like Kuwait etc that allowed to host US forces from which they invade and occupy Iraq. So much for Arab brotherhood .

Even you agree that Iran helped the West with the invasion of Afghanistan. The same Iran that helped the West kill tens of thousands in Afghanistan suddenly discovered morality in Iraq. One million, that is 1,000,000, Iraqis must have been killed by aliens from Uranus, since neither Iran nor its Iraqi allies are responsible. Same in Syria. Continuous lies of Afghanis, Iraqis, Syrians make Iran the most victimized country in history. Poor things.


The "hostility" between Iran and the West is fake. The prediction is a future Turkish-Iranian conflict, with or without the Sauds.

And I wont even respond to your Shia remark, which was unprovoked. It would be beneath me.
In fact, I will go right ahead and put you on ignore list right now.

The drama. The acting. Typical Iran.

 

[Banu Hashim]

Slamat ya 7abibi , leesh hesabak alawwal ... esh sar feeh ? La ykoon 7adrook zay JUBA ?

ههههههههههههه كشفوك علشانك شغال فيهم لسع

.نعم يا أخي، فهم يخشون سيفي العربي
نسيت كلمة المرور فحسب. يجب أن أستعيد حسابي القديم. لا داعي للقلق. سيعود "جوبا" أيضا. في كل الأحوال أردت أن آخذ استراحة من المنتدى

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The worlds' largest producer and market supplier of the Chinook salmon is New Zealand. Marketed as king salmon, in 2009, New Zealand exported 5,088 tonnes of salmon equating to a value of NZ$61 million in export earnings.

Read the post again and ponder on whether this was a deliberate "description".

I do like salmon though and seafood in general. Especially grilled seafood. Very popular in the coastal regions of Hijaz.

1-yes it looks like king salman wants to cut ties with sissi that's why he welcomed sissi in saudi arabia himself in the airport.

U must be a special kind of stupid
2- egypt is not a small country and I think thr GCC understand that

Egyptain king photo with the saudi royal family

That's a photo of King salman as a volunteer in the egyptian army. Egypt and saudi arabia are one country and we have a long history of solidarity in hard times saudi arabia needs egypt and egypt needs saudi arabia

Indeed KSA and Egypt are two brotherly neighbors with several millennium old ties. Long before the birth of Prophet Muhammad (saws). Be it ancient history, fellow ancient Semitic history, Arab history, language, culture, dialect etc. Dozens of people in Hijaz have Egyptian ancestry and vice versa.
Mostly this relationship is confined to Hejaz (as KSA is a huge country) so if KSA was ruled by a Hijazi family and not a family from the heartland of Najd, I assume that the relationship would be even closer.

Hijazis consider Egypt as their second homeland along with nearby Levant.

KSA (GCC) and Egypt have important plans. No doubt about it.

@Rakan.SA

 

[Serpentine]

Iran is gonna get pissed off at this.

You are so wrong my friend if you think Iran gives a flying $hit about this meeting.

 

[Gasoline]

@Rakan.SA

Shoft ibn alsharmootah hatha elly fog ?

ليش مسح ردودنا في موضوعهم ؟
علشان مسحنا فيهم الارض هم وعمليتهم الغبية ^_^

 

[Rakan.SA]

@Rakan.SA

Shoft ibn alsharmootah hatha elly fog ?

ليش مسح ردودنا في موضوعهم ؟
علشان مسحنا فيهم الارض هم وعمليتهم الغبية ^_^

استنى علي بس... انا شوي و بطلعلو من الشاشه.. جالس يمسح كلامنا و مواضيعنا لكن ما حعديها على خير.

You are so wrong my friend if you think Iran gives a flying $hit about this meeting.

well you should.. we are discussing your future your economy your nuclear program. just to prove that you are an amateur and know nothing about politics. no one says iran dosnt give a flying shit! even your own oiliticians are busy analyzing every saudi move. regardless of how you feel and how much you hate us. your governments is scrambling every egg in the government.
you have protests regarding many issues. some regarding minorities and their excutions. some regarding economic reasons. i can keep going on. do you think we dont know what is happening inside iran ?! do you think you dont have ppl inside iran who are asking for international help includin saudi arabia ?! and no they are not all sunna. a lot are shia. your government days are over. start counting. you are operating in 4 arab countries that has no future plans for stability. and at the same time you cant go out. you need russia and china. you are suffering and your economy is bleeding. your own ppl will turn against you before anyone. just wait.

 

[Gasoline]

استنى علي بس... انا شوي و بطلعلو من الشاشه.. جالس يمسح كلامنا و مواضيعنا لكن ما حعديها على خير.

حبيبي كيف اكتب رسالة على البروفايل ؟

 

[Gazi]

Yeah, that's why Iran supplied arms for Pakistan in fights against India? You are another dumb I guess.
Anyway, I personally think that Iran was wrong in supporting Pakistan. India has a much bigger economy, and more potentials to become a global power.

That was Shah and Relations were Cool with Iran under Shah of Iran even Saudi Iran Relations werent that bad but after that Iran has become Closer to India under Islamic Regime because I think Pakistan is Majority Sunni Country that is why. Maybe you should also look after your Azerbaijan because last time Iran(Current Regime) was the one which Supported Armenia on Karabakh issue despite Azerbaijan being one among Shia Majority Country in the World.

 

[Rakan.SA]

حبيبي كيف اكتب رسالة على البروفايل ؟

على بروفايلي ؟

 

[Gazi]

Pakistan can help against ISIS but not against toppling Asad Regime.
Basically its Arabs vs Persians.......The main player here are KSA, GCC & Egypt on one side and Iran, Syria, Hizbullah & Houthis(yemen) on the other.

Pakistan & Turkey calls only to beef up the alliance and tries to makes it a pure Shia-Sunni conflict.

Its not Exactly Arab vs Persian in fact Iranian Regime consider Persian Nationalism as threat to itself. Its all about Shia vs Sunni as Saudis want Sunni Alliance against Shia Alliance in Middle East and Nearby Region region.