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This you should explain further!
Turn around?
Pakistan is busy in politics, only army is busy in counter terrorism
imo, it's basically drugging their own population with so-called external threats in order to increase the firm grip of the mullahs. Before I joined this forum I had a neutral image of Iran as you almost never read or hear about Iran in Turkish media/news. However, I quickly learned from the majority of Iranians here that they have negative obsession with us while Turks don't give a rats *** about Iran nor the mullahs. I still believe the average Iranian on the street is saner than what we get to see on this forum though, at least that's what i hope.
??Young king Salmon;
Sorry bro. You are right.
PS. People like Nawaz, and Zarvan are always on my nerves and make me flip.
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Hakan Fidan also being there is actually a huge news.
I can understand KSA's concern with Iran. Perhaps a conspiracy theory, but i dont think the US and Israel want to be done with Iran through a total war, because when Iran falls there will only be 2 main factions left in the ME; Israel and the sunnis. This situation probably might end up with more pressure for Israel while a balance between sunnis and shia gives Israel more space and room since GCC are distracted by their main worry Iran. So Israel only wants to set Iran back through limited war, but the US under Obama doesnt even want that.Kerry visits Riyadh to sooth fears of stronger Iran under nuclear deal| Reuters
Kerry visits Riyadh to sooth fears of stronger Iran under nuclear deal
By Arshad Mohammed and Angus McDowall
MONTREAUX, Switzerland/RIYADH Tue Mar 3, 2015 3:55am EST
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gestures during a news conference after he delivered remarks to the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva March 2, 2015.
Credit: Reuters/Evan Vucci/Pool
(Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry flies to Riyadh this week to reassure King Salman that any nuclear deal with Iran is in Saudi Arabia's interest, despite the country's fears it may boost its rival's support for Shi'ite Muslim interests in the region.
Convincing Saudi Arabia to accept any agreed nuclear deal is important to President Barack Obama because he needs Riyadh to work closely with Washington on a host of regional policies and to maintain its role as a moderating influence in oil markets.
The main critics of the U.S. push for a nuclear deal are Israel and congressional Republicans. But Saudi Arabia is skeptical too that any agreement would only let Iran devote more cash and energy to Shi'ite proxies in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen, escalating conflicts.
"The Saudis fear Obama will give the Iranians a deal whatever the cost because it is important for his legacy, and that Iran will get a certain regional status in exchange for an agreement," said a diplomat in the Gulf.
Kerry met Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif in Montreux, Switzerland, on Monday at the start of up to three days of negotiations to try to meet a self-imposed deadline to achieve a framework agreement by the end of March.
He will then brief Saudi Arabia's new king on the talks, and meet other senior Gulf officials later in the week, in an attempt to convince them that a diplomatic solution to the long-festering crisis over Iran's atomic program is in that country's interest too.
Saudi's anxiety about an agreement has fueled a flurry of diplomacy in recent days to bolster unity among Sunni states in the Middle East in the face of shared threats including Iran, analysts say.
Washington shares Arab concerns about Iran's role, particularly in Syria and Yemen and through its ties to Lebanon's Hezbollah militia, a senior Obama administration official said, on condition of anonymity, but added that there was a "very substantial" U.S. military commitment to Gulf allies.
"What we need to do is have the appropriate strategies to counter any provocative and destabilizing behavior... it's going to depend on what can we do effectively in places like Syria and Yemen," he said.
ANXIOUS
U.S. officials are unwilling however to outline what strategies might curb Iran's regional influence, and Washington's record in Iraq, Syria and Yemen - where armed Iranian allies have since flourished - has caused Saudi Arabia great anxiety.
The country's trust in Washington during the Iran talks is also still recovering from the sudden move in late 2013 towards a nuclear deal, when Saudi officials were blindsided by the revelation of months of secret talks between the U.S. and Iran.
"They are very, very nervous about the way we are moving forward," said a Western diplomat who tracks the issue closely and said Riyadh feared a "lose-lose situation" in which Iran either gained an atomic weapon or was freed from sanctions.
Riyadh has long been worried about Iran gaining nuclear weapons capability, something that once led King Abdullah to ask Washington to "cut off the head of the snake" by striking Iran, diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks showed.
But it now sees Iran's involvement in Arab countries, particularly its backing of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, its support for Iraqi Shi'ite militias and its ties to the Houthi group that has seized control in northern Yemen, as a more urgent problem.
A senior State Department official told Reuters: "Secretary Kerry will make clear we understand the concerns they have about the region's security, concerns that we also share."
Meanwhile, King Salman is working to forge a united front among Sunni states against what Riyadh sees as the dual threat from Iran and IS, analysts say.
Over the past week Salman has met the leaders of all Saudi Arabia's Gulf Arab neighbors, the king of Jordan and the presidents of Egypt and Turkey, the two most populous and militarily powerful Sunni states in the region.
"The understanding is we will face a more aggressive Iran if they sign an agreement. All the restrictions on it will be lifted and it will be much stronger. This is an issue that needs some sort of unity," said Mustafa Alani, an Iraqi security analyst with ties to the kingdom's Interior Ministry.
(Additional reporting by William Maclean in Dubai; Editing by Sophie Walker)
Kerry visits Riyadh to sooth fears of stronger Iran under nuclear deal| Reuters
Kerry visits Riyadh to sooth fears of stronger Iran under nuclear deal
By Arshad Mohammed and Angus McDowall
MONTREAUX, Switzerland/RIYADH Tue Mar 3, 2015 3:55am EST
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gestures during a news conference after he delivered remarks to the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva March 2, 2015.
Credit: Reuters/Evan Vucci/Pool
(Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry flies to Riyadh this week to reassure King Salman that any nuclear deal with Iran is in Saudi Arabia's interest, despite the country's fears it may boost its rival's support for Shi'ite Muslim interests in the region.
Convincing Saudi Arabia to accept any agreed nuclear deal is important to President Barack Obama because he needs Riyadh to work closely with Washington on a host of regional policies and to maintain its role as a moderating influence in oil markets.
The main critics of the U.S. push for a nuclear deal are Israel and congressional Republicans. But Saudi Arabia is skeptical too that any agreement would only let Iran devote more cash and energy to Shi'ite proxies in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen, escalating conflicts.
"The Saudis fear Obama will give the Iranians a deal whatever the cost because it is important for his legacy, and that Iran will get a certain regional status in exchange for an agreement," said a diplomat in the Gulf.
Kerry met Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif in Montreux, Switzerland, on Monday at the start of up to three days of negotiations to try to meet a self-imposed deadline to achieve a framework agreement by the end of March.
He will then brief Saudi Arabia's new king on the talks, and meet other senior Gulf officials later in the week, in an attempt to convince them that a diplomatic solution to the long-festering crisis over Iran's atomic program is in that country's interest too.
Saudi's anxiety about an agreement has fueled a flurry of diplomacy in recent days to bolster unity among Sunni states in the Middle East in the face of shared threats including Iran, analysts say.
Washington shares Arab concerns about Iran's role, particularly in Syria and Yemen and through its ties to Lebanon's Hezbollah militia, a senior Obama administration official said, on condition of anonymity, but added that there was a "very substantial" U.S. military commitment to Gulf allies.
"What we need to do is have the appropriate strategies to counter any provocative and destabilizing behavior... it's going to depend on what can we do effectively in places like Syria and Yemen," he said.
ANXIOUS
U.S. officials are unwilling however to outline what strategies might curb Iran's regional influence, and Washington's record in Iraq, Syria and Yemen - where armed Iranian allies have since flourished - has caused Saudi Arabia great anxiety.
The country's trust in Washington during the Iran talks is also still recovering from the sudden move in late 2013 towards a nuclear deal, when Saudi officials were blindsided by the revelation of months of secret talks between the U.S. and Iran.
"They are very, very nervous about the way we are moving forward," said a Western diplomat who tracks the issue closely and said Riyadh feared a "lose-lose situation" in which Iran either gained an atomic weapon or was freed from sanctions.
Riyadh has long been worried about Iran gaining nuclear weapons capability, something that once led King Abdullah to ask Washington to "cut off the head of the snake" by striking Iran, diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks showed.
But it now sees Iran's involvement in Arab countries, particularly its backing of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, its support for Iraqi Shi'ite militias and its ties to the Houthi group that has seized control in northern Yemen, as a more urgent problem.
A senior State Department official told Reuters: "Secretary Kerry will make clear we understand the concerns they have about the region's security, concerns that we also share."
Meanwhile, King Salman is working to forge a united front among Sunni states against what Riyadh sees as the dual threat from Iran and IS, analysts say.
Over the past week Salman has met the leaders of all Saudi Arabia's Gulf Arab neighbors, the king of Jordan and the presidents of Egypt and Turkey, the two most populous and militarily powerful Sunni states in the region.
"The understanding is we will face a more aggressive Iran if they sign an agreement. All the restrictions on it will be lifted and it will be much stronger. This is an issue that needs some sort of unity," said Mustafa Alani, an Iraqi security analyst with ties to the kingdom's Interior Ministry.
(Additional reporting by William Maclean in Dubai; Editing by Sophie Walker)
