You are getting confused. You are also trying to twist words.
There's no confusion, I'm putting what you wrote in a context that makes it clearer what you're trying to say, and making sure I understand what you're saying with these "interesting examples."
It is not disloyal to root for another Muslim.
The issue is when You rather root for a Muslim than a citizen. That is disloyalty.
When You specifically ask for citizenship, other citizens EXPECT that You put citizenship above religion.
If You do not do that, You are going to get rejection, and You deserve that rejection.
So it's the "
perception" that SOME people end up having. That doesn't make it ok or acceptable. I certainly hope you're not advocating this reasoning is justified, or worst, as some lawful consequence. That couldn't be further from the truth.
What you're saying is that because American Muslims practice their religion in a devout manner, which is American as baseball & apple pie, the consequence of that COULD be viewed as disloyal, and that Muslims deserve that. That does not make it ok, or lawful. This is the point I'm making to you. If this is what causes Islamophobia, then it's not American. It's bigotry.
FYI, I've been living in the US for over 32 years, and for the most part, I've never experienced any significant Islamophobia, or racist reactions, but I've recently witnessed a fascinating event that is right along the lines of what we're discussing that involves a Palestinian American friend of mine, a white American couple (also good friends of mine) and myself where because of the religious beliefs of my Palestinian Americana friend, my other friends were very upset and angry and judged him harshly only to later apologize for being ignorant and not respecting his religious beliefs. Not only them, everyone within the circle of friends and others outside it were very supportive of him. It was fascinating, and that is what the US and this melting pot is about. Coexisting and understanding others' beliefs and living together. Not judging loyalty because of religious affiliation, and specifically Muslim.
If a Christian US Marine is fighting a Moroccan Muslim in a war,
and You intervene and kill the US Marine because Your natural loyalty is with the Muslim,
then You are a traitor.
If a Muslim US Marine is fighting a Christian enemy, and you again try to kill the US Marine,
You are again a traitor.
Of course you are! But now you've created a totally different scenario. This is not simple sportsmanship and cheering for one or the other. Know you're talking about war. Completely different matter. Please make up your mind, are you talking about fighting as Americans on a battlefield or are you talking about rooting for certain individuals in a sport? You're all over the place, Rich.
Another example would be if You as a Muslim police officer investigate a car crash,
and find out that one of the driver is a Muslim, and the other is a Christian,
and You decide that this means that the Muslim drivers version must be the true story,
and disregard any evidence in favour of the Christian.
And now you're citing an example of law enforcement obligations. This is an example of breaking the law, irrespective of loyalty. Funny thing, I know a couple of Muslim cops who are so straight-laced they'd never do anything like that. That's ridiculous, sorry. Now I think you're just reaching, Rich.
When you root for a Muslim over a Christian, without other cause, You are limiting the right of the Christian to freely exercise their religion, which may be against the Constitution.
No it's not. If you're "physically" limiting the Christian's right, you're breaking the law, and you're a criminal. Yes you're also disloyal, of course. But if you're biased to your own belief and not physically preventing anyone else from doing the same, you're not breaking the law or being disloyal. It's your right.
In my opinion, it does.
The bottom line is this...
Your country is real, but your religion is not. By that, I mean that no one ever returned from the afterlife to tell us which religion is the true religion. From that perspective, like it or not, your country is the only thing worth your allegiance. Your country is the only thing that gives you a roof over your head, a job, a place for your family, and a retirement, literally and figuratively.
Come on, maaaaan! How is there any lack of allegiance when our country also protects our rights, and one of those essential rights is in the 1st amendment which is the freedom to exercise one's religion and protecting that right. You can't have one without the other. Having that right to exercise your religious beliefs within the law of the land is essential to being American.
Not just Islam, but ANY religion.
If you act ( or do not act ) and the consequences does harm to your country and/or fellow citizens, then yes, that is being disloyal.
That's what I've been saying, but that was not what we were talking about. The examples that were originally given (aside from the war and police examples) were no where near breaking the law. Quite the opposite, they were protected by the law.
If a Muslim says his religion forbids doing business with infidels, that is illegal. Whether his interpretation of Islam is conforming or not belongs to the imams, but as far as civil laws goes, his (version) of Islamic practices breaks the laws.
That is absolutely incorrect! Cite me 1 law that says I don't have the right to refuse a business interaction with someone else because it goes against my religion. As a matter of fact, that is actually a PROTECTED right that I would have.
Negotiating a business deal and refusing it for any reason is NOT breaking the law.
