Why Iran stood with Erdogan

[SOHEIL]

turks have very low numbers of fanatics in both Sunni Shia... so no chance there..

Turkish Hizbollah is actually a Kurdish Hizbollah..
Again Turks are still more in 21st century then your Mullah worshiping kind.. You should die in shame before calling Turks extremist while your own country is fiefdom of Mullahs..

 

[-SINAN-]

As July 15 was coming to an end in Tehran, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif was on the phone with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu, whose government was under the threat of being overthrown by a military coup. Meanwhile, Ali Shamkhani, the secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council (SNSC), was on another line with security officials in Ankara. All the while, Qasem Soleimani, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force, Iran’s regional military arm, was busy pursuing and reviewing various scenarios that might emerge.

Summary⎙ Print Even though Iran and Turkey have major differences over many issues in the region, the Iranian government strongly came out in support of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan amid the coup attempt. The question is why.
Author Ali HashemPosted July 19, 2016
“It’s not a secret anymore,” an Iranian official told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. “Zarif, Shamkhani and Soleimani were executing higher orders. The whole establishment was too concerned. Turkey is a neighboring state. President [Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and his government are strong partners of Iran. Our nations enjoy strong brotherly ties, so it’s the least we can do to show solidarity and try to offer any help they might need in such critical times.”

Within hours after the coup attempt began late July 15, the SNSC convened to discuss developments in Turkey. Following the meeting, which was chaired by President Hassan Rouhani, Shamkhani publicly condemned the coup attempt, telling local media outlets, “We support Turkey's legal government and oppose any type of coup — either [initiated] domestically or supported by foreign sides.” Shamkhani said, “What determined the fate of developments in Turkey were the will and presence of the [Turkish] nation and the vigilance of political parties, whose contribution thwarted this coup. Shamkhani concluded, “Our stance is not exclusive to Turkey either. We have pursued the same stance in Syria too. Our position toward all regional countries is that we always prefer people's votes [to decide governments] rather than tribal, sectarian and hereditary governments, and this means democracy."

“A coup in Turkey isn’t something Iran can tolerate,” another Iranian politician told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. “It’s true that there are differences over Syria, and sometimes in Iraq. Yet the fact is that there is no direct problem between Iran and Turkey; on the contrary, [bilateral] relations are always advancing for the better. Besides, Iran is opposed to any kind of change by force, and especially when the government [in question] is democratically elected.” The Iranian politician added, “The most important thing is that this experience [the coup attempt] might be an opportunity for Mr. Erdogan to understand the situation in neighboring Syria.”

Indeed, multiple Iranian officials, including Ali Akbar Velayati — foreign policy adviser to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei — brought up Syria in their condemnation of the coup attempt in Turkey. While condemning the coup, Velayati — a former foreign minister — said he hopes “the Turkish government will respect the views and votes of the Syrian people and allow them to decide their own government.” It was a clear message from Iran to Turkey regarding Syria and the future of the struggle in the region. For five years now, Iranian officials have on repeated occasions stated that they have been trying to engage the Turks on a path to address the situation in Syria, and while unsuccessful, have never given up on this approach.

But why is Iran so concerned about the coup attempt in Turkey?

“The stability of the region would have been seriously threatened if the coup attempt had succeeded. Turkey is a major player. Besides, there is the fear that such a move might trigger internal strife,” an Iranian official told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. He explained that given the past five bloody years in the region, any such development in Turkey “will shake the whole region” in addition to “Europe, Iran and the Caucasus.” The Iranian official added, “Besides the already shaken Arab countries, what about the [various] ethnic groups within Turkey? Has anyone thought about what they might do?”

Some conservative figures and journalists in Tehran have shown a different reaction toward development in Turkey, influenced mainly by the crisis in Syria.

“It was clear that there’s a gap between the street and the government with respect to what was going on in Turkey," a conservative Iranian political figure told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity. Many whose understanding of the region is influenced by the war in Syria think the fall of Erdogan would have been a positive development — not only in Iran but also in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. In this vein, the Iranian political source said that many within this camp “were surprised to see the Iranian government reacting before any other government in the whole world and backing the legitimate [Turkish] government.”

It is important to bear in mind the other important reasons why Iran sees the security and stability of Turkey as pivotal to its own national security. With an Islamic-oriented government in power in Ankara, bilateral relations have improved in the past decade, paving the way for common ground despite differences over regional developments. The latter has been possible thanks to Iranian-Turkish proximity in terms of grander objectives and also similarities in their ways of thinking. Indeed, at the height of the nuclear-related sanctions on Iran, Turkey played a vital role in easing the pressure on its eastern neighbor. Erdogan certainly paid the price for the holes he was accused of creating in the web of sanctions imposed on Iran through what came to be known as the "gold-for-oil scheme" — even while economic ties between the two countries greatly expanded in the sanctions era. With the implementation of the nuclear deal, the two countries now plan to triple their trade volume to $30 billion.

So, beside its public condemnations, did Iran play a role in directly thwarting the coup? Did it, for instance, share intelligence that helped Erdogan preserve his reign? Al-Monitor put forward this question to a senior Iranian official who was in direct contact with Turkish officials during the hours of the coup attempt. His answer was short but to the point: “No.”

Another Iranian official saw parallels between the successful coup against Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953 and this year's coup attempt in Turkey. The official told Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity, “What we know is that this move was triggered by foreign hands. We went through the same in the past, and because Mr. Erdogan is today looking forward to playing a better role in the region, they want him down.” The Iranian official said, “There was a message that was conveyed to Turkish security officials: Don’t leave the streets. This coup might be made up of several waves; it happened in Iran in 1953. When the first coup failed, they had another one ready — and they succeeded.”



Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...coup-attempt-zarif-erdogan.html#ixzz4F3gwVeQQ

Mate, if the coup has been succeeded. Fethullah Gülen would return to Turkey like Khomeini returned after revolution. Turkey would transform into Sunni Islamic Republic of Turkey.

Wonder what Gülen thinks about Iran and Iranians ?

Translation: He says: "Even if 7 worlds comes together I won't go to Iran. Even if the road that goes to heaven, goes through Iran, I will ask "Is there an alternate road ?"..I'm that much antipathetic to Iran. These rafidis are two-faced, perverts, the ones whom destroys Ummah, servants of jews".....

Imagine the NATO's second strongest army, them most heavily armed country in the ME being ruled by a mad man whom hates Iran to the core... Some says the first thing he will do, would be to wage war on Iran......

This is why Iran stood by Erdoğan and Republic of Turkey.

 

[B@KH]

But,... I thought it was America that did it? Me no special anymore?......

what is the diff. between saudi and america. saudi pays and usa fights.

this all is a staged drama when usa has finger in each pie.

turks have very low numbers of fanatics in both Sunni Shia... so no chance there..

you are illiterates and have no idea of teh conflicts. just stick to poor kashmir. it is over 6 decades now.

 

[Max]

you are illiterates and have no idea of teh conflicts. just stick to poor kashmir. it is over 6 decades now.

dont Quote me again slave..

 

[meral]

Who or What is Iran?
A terrorist Kasimö Süleymani is gonna save my country? ahahahha
Iran cooperates with USA, if coup was successful Iran was part of the plan to create chaos inside Turkey with their terrörists!
Operation was planned and directed from American military base inside Turkey and Iranian official was also invited in some meetings

Good bye Iran!
Turkey will clear all the bad seeds and become stronger, in a few years will fly so high more than ever, our economy is still stabilised more than ever your oil rich nothingness, we cooperate with Qatar and the current Saudi Family and they finance our economy against manipulations, deep wave of İslamic Political Union is coming and you are OUT! As Always! We wwill take all Azerbaijan and Turkish lands and you can fight with Pakistan to cross over to India!

We didnt forget your lies in Gezi Protests and we wont forget your lies in North Iraq , fake coup against Barzani

You are honourless reptiles... nothing more....

Expect more out of Turkey operations now... Days are coming...

Even aid thieves ahahahhh

We chose to call you Muslim all the time and you came up with Shia, ok you are only effin Shia for us, not Muslim, go back to the feet of your crusaders

You make me and millions of Turkish people sick, ugly to see around, ööögykkk

 

[SOHEIL]

Who or What is Iran?
A terrorist Kasimö Süleymani is gonna save my country? ahahahha
Iran cooperates with USA, if coup was successful Iran was part of the plan to create chaos inside Turkey with their terrörists!
Operation was planned and directed from American military base inside Turkey and Iranian official was also invited in some meetings

Good bye Iran!
Turkey will clear all the bad seeds and become stronger, in a few years will fly so high more than ever, our economy is still stabilised more than ever your oil rich nothingness, we cooperate with Qatar and the current Saudi Family and they finance our economy against manipulations, deep wave of İslamic Political Union is coming and you are OUT! As Always! We wwill take all Azerbaijan and Turkish lands and you can fight with Pakistan to cross over to India!

We didnt forget your lies in Gezi Protests and we wont forget your lies in North Iraq , fake coup against Barzani

You are honourless reptiles... nothing more....

Expect more out of Turkey operations now... Days are coming...

Even aid thieves ahahahhh

We chose to call you Muslim all the time and you came up with Shia, ok you are only effin Shia for us, not Muslim, go back to the feet of your crusaders

You make me and millions of Turkish people sick, ugly to see around, ööögykkk

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[Arminkh]

I wouldn't even waste that on him!

 

[raptor22]

Who or What is Iran?
A terrorist Kasimö Süleymani is gonna save my country? ahahahha
Iran cooperates with USA, if coup was successful Iran was part of the plan to create chaos inside Turkey with their terrörists!
Operation was planned and directed from American military base inside Turkey and Iranian official was also invited in some meetings

Good bye Iran!
Turkey will clear all the bad seeds and become stronger, in a few years will fly so high more than ever, our economy is still stabilised more than ever your oil rich nothingness, we cooperate with Qatar and the current Saudi Family and they finance our economy against manipulations, deep wave of İslamic Political Union is coming and you are OUT! As Always! We wwill take all Azerbaijan and Turkish lands and you can fight with Pakistan to cross over to India!

We didnt forget your lies in Gezi Protests and we wont forget your lies in North Iraq , fake coup against Barzani

You are honourless reptiles... nothing more....

Expect more out of Turkey operations now... Days are coming...

Even aid thieves ahahahhh

We chose to call you Muslim all the time and you came up with Shia, ok you are only effin Shia for us, not Muslim, go back to the feet of your crusaders

You make me and millions of Turkish people sick, ugly to see around, ööögykkk

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What is the color of sky in your world? have fun with Saudis ...

 

[-SINAN-]

She is a weird gal, whom logins once in a year spews hatred and vanishes. Ignore her.

 

[SOHEIL]

She is a weird gal, whom logins once in a year spews hatred and vanishes. Ignore her.

 

[scythian500]

Turkish Hizbollah is actually a Kurdish Hizbollah..
Again Turks are still more in 21st century then your Mullah worshiping kind.. You should die in shame before calling Turks extremist while your own country is fiefdom of Mullahs..

who said Turks ar extremest? I said there hundreds of thousands of them as Salafi takfiris...and if by 21th century you mean drinking liquor, having all sort of western non-muslim pleasures... doing everything to look European while they are n't and could not succeed... Yes they are... If you mean 21th century as being ahead in science and tech and security and other advanced stuff yes they are but only second to Iran... You also are better off licking Westerns *** to teach you civilization while not knowing who you are... We don't need them to teach us civilization...Btw, Mullah worshipers are those empty heads commit all sorts of hidious crimes as sex with people wives, or even commit gay stuff, or behead children just because their Mullahs did say so... At least Shia Mullahs in Iran or anywhere else are based on love and logic and are considered moderate progressive ones... unlike those who left nothing for the name of Islam and our prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h)...

You lack proper culture and civilization buddy... I explained to you that they have Hizbullah in Turkey and you responded with blind hate... A kind that could be found only when logic is gone...

 

[scythian500]

turks have very low numbers of fanatics in both Sunni Shia... so no chance there..

Even if they don't, you have tens of millions of them... All sorts of illiterate, Salafi takfiri, canibalistic, beheading terrorists enough to let the world make sure Islam should be avoided at all costs... Shame on those who know how the prophet Muhammad and his family lived as the head of Islam and yet do stuff that Muhammad himself is the first one to clear his name from these transformed animals of yours...

 

[Hexciter]

Even if they don't, you have tens of millions of them... All sorts of illiterate, Salafi takfiri, canibalistic, beheading terrorists enough to let the world make sure Islam should be avoided at all costs... Shame on those who know how the prophet Muhammad and his family lived as the head of Islam and yet do stuff that Muhammad himself is the first one to clear his name from these transformed animals of yours...

A Persian talks about! Who cares?

 

[scythian500]

A Persian talks about! Who cares?

You imagine it is a word by a Germany, Persian, Greek or a Zolo from Africa... does n't matter if the word is right...

 

[Max]

Even if they don't, you have tens of millions of them... All sorts of illiterate, Salafi takfiri, canibalistic, beheading terrorists enough to let the world make sure Islam should be avoided at all costs... Shame on those who know how the prophet Muhammad and his family lived as the head of Islam and yet do stuff that Muhammad himself is the first one to clear his name from these transformed animals of yours...

saying an Iranian who live in Mullah republic where whole population is being systamtically brainwashed for 40 years, Where you have millions of volunteer fanatics called baseej who are ready to fight with thier own national army to save Mullah rule in case of coup and always waiting for order from Mullah to be part of terrorism against Iraqi sunnis and syrian sunnis, while on other hand let alone turks who have majority sufi population.. In Pakistan [which is also sufi majority] TTP, Lej failed to have more then 10,000 fanatics combine at thier peak in Pakistan which we already destroyed to that extent that those who used to attack us daily now need months to attack us., so on what basis you are saying Pakistan have Millions of ? Where are they? Which party or organizatiion these wahabi salafi, caniballistic, beheaders belong?