why india is arab league observer member but not pakistan ?

[Wilhelm II]

yeah but when some crisis started soon you remember muslim and arab ummah

you have nothing to do with pakistan you are canadian and stick with your nationality no need to jump in our matters . you left pakistan long ago .exposed ehhhhhh pakistnai nationalism is drive force of pakistan not some religious lunatic. you are so stupid that chanting people of ummah here , while if you ever travel to any arab country with muslim passport you will start learning from airport your auqaat . people will discriminate with you on every step . how many arab countries you have been traveled with a muslim country passport ?

We know it in crisis many of Muslim countries will stay out or help our enemies
So we need out of ummah friends

 

[GHALIB]

Salam to you its my frst post and reply, roaming pdf since 2008..
Want to say there is no concept of ummah in arab league thats why its an arab league..
Secondly, they did not consider themselves as part of ummar thats why they are going to be destroyed according to islamic concept..
By islamic philosphy and concept it is time of "waelul arab" their pride brave and valor has gone long ago..
Yes islam will not vanish but muslims will, yes not in full numbers but in huge numbers. Thats why you seeing arabs being murdered one by one..
The flag of future is not in the hands of arabs untill the arrival of mehdi.. But his warriors, moslty will be non arabs..

gulli danda expert is right .

We know it in crisis many of Muslim countries will stay out or help our enemies
So we need out of ummah friends

this is how this world behaves .

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bhut jiyada sir arab ke pujari ghusa main hain

 

[Indus Pakistan]

i know but then why people dying for ummah ? where are worshippers of ummah while arabs not only bring indian in arab league but also in IOC . just wait israel is next observer

what relation brazil and venezvuela have with arabs then ?

You know you don't often get to see major changes in society. However I think we are begining to see the change in Pakistan. Over the decades ummah lovers had a simple formula.

• love A-rabs
• hate Israel

This formula is now being tested and the Arab embrace of Israel is bringing this to the fore. UAE until recently as god child of many ummah lovers here on PDF. I used to get lynched for even sneezing in the direction of UAE - for example the fact that UAE employs far more Indian workers. The ummah lovers would denigrate their own people by calling Paks "lazy, uneducated, criminal" in order to excuse why UAE employed more Indians. In other words they were prepared to make Indians superior to Pakistani's to make excuses for their god-child UAE. Today all that is over when we see UAE licking Israeli testicles.

As we move forward more Arabs will "come out". The real banger in this will be Saudia Arabia which also will go lick Israeli testicles - it already does in private. To be sure we have to wait a few years but it will. When that happens and the ummah lovers find their godfather and protector of the two holy sites of Islam hugging Israel the ummah fetish you see in Pakistan will suffer a dogs death.

now this is worse case of slavery sir . can not be fixed . we are here before pakistan too as indus valley civilization 1000s years before islam .religions will vanish but indus velly will remain


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Mashallah .....

The Ummah is not a collection of artificially defined states, it is real people that form a brotherhood, a transnational community that are connected by their Faith.

So are the Gay community, so are some religious cults.

 

[Imran Khan]

You know you don't often get to see major changes in society. However I think we are begining to see the change in Pakistan. Over the decades ummah lovers had a simple formula.

• love A-rabs
• hate Israel

This formula is now being tested and the Arab embrace of Israel is bringing this to the fore. UAE until recently as god child of many ummah lovers here on PDF. I used to get lynched for even sneezing in the direction of UAE - for example the fact that UAE employs far more Indian workers. The ummah lovers would denigrate their own people by calling Paks "lazy, uneducated, criminal" in order to excuse why UAE employed more Indians. In other words they were prepared to make Indians superior to Pakistani's to make excuses for their god-child UAE. Today all that is over when we see UAE licking Israeli testicles.

As we move forward more Arabs will "come out". The real banger in this will be Saudia Arabia which also will go lick Israeli testicles - it already does in private. To be sure we have to wait a few years but it will. When that happens and the ummah lovers find their godfather and protector of the two holy sites of Islam hugging Israel the ummah fetish you see in Pakistan will suffer a dogs death.
Mashallah .....

everyday one arab country recognise israel our ummah ka chumma guys cant go out of homes now sudan and oman next month

 

[truthfollower]

now this is worse case of slavery sir . can not be fixed . we are here before pakistan too as indus valley civilization 1000s years before islam .religions will vanish but indus velly will remain


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pakistan navy jet? nice looking Indus valley art

 

[Imran Khan]

pakistan navy jet? nice looking Indus valley art

P3C-orion MPA of pakistan navy

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Well today I learned there are elements (I don't know how strong) in the Pakistani deep state establishment that in their heart of hearts consider Islam and Ummah a liability, since their first and foremost cause is Pakistani nationalism. PAKISTANFOREVER and Imran Khan are two users on PDF that apparently represent this tendency.
That is quite disturbing to be honest with you. I am a Pakistani myself, and I sincerely want Pakistan to be a successful Islamic state, a model for the rest of the Muslim world, but when I see these fanatic Pakistani nationalists and this kind of rhetoric I get second thoughts about who really are the deep state establishment and what are their true feelings and motives? The way they are talking "Islam will vanish but Pakistan will remain" and "we are the inheritors of the Indus Valley Civilization" remind me of Hindutva types and not ordinary Pakistani patriots. These people are dangerous, beware of them. They need to be exposed

Why should we care about people who don't care about us

You know you don't often get to see major changes in society. However I think we are begining to see the change in Pakistan. Over the decades ummah lovers had a simple formula.

• love A-rabs
• hate Israel

This formula is now being tested and the Arab embrace of Israel is bringing this to the fore. UAE until recently as god child of many ummah lovers here on PDF. I used to get lynched for even sneezing in the direction of UAE - for example the fact that UAE employs far more Indian workers. The ummah lovers would denigrate their own people by calling Paks "lazy, uneducated, criminal" in order to excuse why UAE employed more Indians. In other words they were prepared to make Indians superior to Pakistani's to make excuses for their god-child UAE. Today all that is over when we see UAE licking Israeli testicles.

As we move forward more Arabs will "come out". The real banger in this will be Saudia Arabia which also will go lick Israeli testicles - it already does in private. To be sure we have to wait a few years but it will. When that happens and the ummah lovers find their godfather and protector of the two holy sites of Islam hugging Israel the ummah fetish you see in Pakistan will suffer a dogs death.
Mashallah .....
So are the Gay community, so are some religious cults.

I think you will find that the Gay and LGBT community is now FAR FAR more powerful and successful than the "Ummah" community. They have more political gravitas too.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

pakistan navy jet? nice looking Indus valley art

My thoughts as well. Looks fantastic. This is how you build "brand Pakistan".
Take a look at this board. It read "Pakistan defence" not "Ummah defence". Now scurry along and find a Ummah forum ...

 

[Dalit]

Ummah is a noble cause, but unfortunately Islamic nations aren't onboard. Ideally all Muslim nations should work together for their cause. Arab nations are blessed with vast oil wealth, but very useless. There is no vision or will to lead or form a bloc. Arab Sheiks are under control of Western nations. There is no unity among Muslims except a handful. These Muslim nations should work together. I can see Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Malaysia and few others joining hands.

 

[Imran Khan]

Ummah is a noble cause, but unfortunately Islamic nations aren't onboard. Ideally all Muslim nations should work together for their cause. Arab nations are blessed with vast oil wealth, but very useless. There is no vision or will to lead or form a bloc. Arab Sheiks are under control of Western nations. There is no unity among Muslims except a handful. These Muslim nations should work together. I can see Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Malaysia and few others joining hands.

i will beg to ummah just stop fighting each other stop bombing each other stop killing each other and stop proxies first . it will be greatest gift to mankind if muslim countries just stop fighting

 

[Pandora]

Same reason why they have Armenia as an observer and not Azerbaijan. Reasoning is based on malice considering Arabs still don't consider Ajam as Muslims.

 

[Dalit]

i will beg to ummah just stop fighting each other stop bombing each other stop killing each other and stop proxies first . it will be greatest gift to mankind if muslim countries just stop fighting

I cannot disagree. Unfortunately this is what we have become.

I am still hopeful considering that a few Islamic nations want to work together. Like I said, Pakistan, Iran, Malaysia, Turkey and the likes need to join hands. Pakistan should ignore the spoilers from within the Islamic world.

 

[Imran Khan]

I cannot disagree. Unfortunately this is what we have become.

I am still hopeful considering that a few Islamic nations want to work together. Like I said, Pakistan, Iran, Malaysia, Turkey and the likes need to join hands. Pakistan should ignore the spoilers from within the Islamic world.

things will go worse sir . just look at 1950 -2000-2020 and you will have idea . in past they just hide hate inside . then 2000 they start showing it and with in 20 years now they are killing eachother openly fighting and banning and closing diplomatic missions . do you know after IRAN /QATAR its time of TURKEY to be banned in GCC and arab countries . things went worse . in 2000s i see thousands of iranians roaming on makkah and madina streets daily 10 flights from iran . now there is no diplomatic relations between these two countries,

 

[The Accountant]

You also know how oil rich Arab nations treat non-Arabs in their lands. Indian nationals too are kicked out.

Religions will vanish ? R u sure ? Your knowledge on religion is nothing. Religion is as old as himan history. Be it Adam A.S. or Noah A.S. or Abraham A.S.

All of them are older then indus valley civilization. The same indus that killed the indis civilization people of moenjodaro and harappa.

 

[Dalit]

Religions will vanish ? R u sure ? Your knowledge on religion is nothing. Religion is as old as himan history. Be it Adam A.S. or Noah A.S. or Abraham A.S.

All of them are older then indus valley civilization. The same indus that killed the indis civilization people of moenjodaro and harappa.

Where did I say that religion will vanish? I think you are mistaking me for someone else. Religion won't vanish. I agree with that.

things will go worse sir . just look at 1950 -2000-2020 and you will have idea . in past they just hide hate inside . then 2000 they start showing it and with in 20 years now they are killing eachother openly fighting and banning and closing diplomatic missions . do you know after IRAN /QATAR its time of TURKEY to be banned in GCC and arab countries . things went worse . in 2000s i see thousands of iranians roaming on makkah and madina streets daily 10 flights from iran . now there is no diplomatic relations between these two countries,

Personally, I don't give a rats *** about Arab nations that are nationalistic and believe in their Arab league. It hasn't gotten them anything. Pakistan would do well to stay away from such chaos.

My personal opinion is that Pakistan should join the advanced Islamic nations such as Turkey, Malaysia, Iran etc. Form a strong bloc and work with these nations. Trade, tech, education etc.