Why has Isis become popular in Kashmir and pakistan

[v9s]

Why can't you answer straight?leave it..seems you are uncomfortable to answer such questions..simply dodging them..OK no problem.

He's answering you straight, you're the one with the agenda.

 

[knight11]

ISIS is an idea a vision (BLACK) taken birth from the mind of Bagdadi spreading though media social networking..........................!!

The graphic picture the aggressive statements , speeches which becomes viral in the modern world of social networking and sites like youtube etc attracts many youths.


I don't know about Pakistan but i did have spend 13 years of my life in Kashmir from 80's to 93. I have witness the starting of militancy to kashmiri pandits fleeding to Jagmohan to chirar-i-shariff. i have lived with the kashmiri friends and with dogra friends from jammu. I have seen how propaganda works and how a small spark can spread the fire. Let me tell you first any young boys with mask on can raise the flag of ISIS and than hides does that means the ISIS have spread to the valley. NOPE but the real fact is that the there is an immediate threat not from the ISIS but the vision so that it could not find any place in the minds of our people. How to stop that the ideas can be different but eventually should be done.


You have to defeat this vision not the ISIS millitant thats why you cannot defeat the ISIS even by the most powerful country like USA.


Hope i didn't bored you !!

 

[Paksanity]

OK Kashmiri's who are waving the Isis flags are not Muslims ?because Muslims can't support such munafiqs who act as Muslims to carry out the evil designs of the US and the west..right?

How have you come to conclusion that Daesh is gaining popularity in Pakistan? Links you provided give nothing as evidence to popularity gain by them. One link tells us since Pakistani soldiers came under Sniper fire hence it must be ISIS because they use these tactics. What the heck?! TTP has been using snipers for a very long time. All militaries and insurgents use snipers. It is not exclusive ISIS tactics.

Second link talks of TTP spokesperson announcing support to IS. Do you when it was? October 2014! Do you know the guy has been already killed by a drone? And most importantly those making these allegiance vows are sitting in Afghanistan not Pakistan. So you should be worrying about Afghanistan where your billions of $ are invested. Anyone can come up with a video or a flag and upload on Internet. That doesn't mean it has gained momentum in a certain society. As far as I know, it was an Indian Muslim running IS show on computers.

As far Kashmiris waiving IS flag side by side to Pakistan flag, I saw no picture or anything supporting it. Now you would love to see those, I know but have you experienced that joyful moment yet? Please provide us with some evidence. Don't come up with half cooked conspiracy theories. Sure Pakistan will look out for any sign of IS presence but at the moment it isn't there. Read up US ambassador to Pakistan's statement on this subject. Don't misguide people because of your weird burning desires!

 

[Icarus]

Why can't you answer straight?leave it..seems you are uncomfortable to answer such questions..simply dodging them..OK no problem.

I am asking you to be clear with your question, all you are doing is shooting shallow one liners.

"Do you think America is behind them"

If you expect me to encompass the culmination of over 1400 years of sectarian rivalry, the effects of colonization, cold war and modern economic theory into a yes or a no, then I think you really don't understand the true gravity of the Middle East situation. It is the material for hundreds of theses, a multidimensional conflict of unheard of proportions, something that you are consistently failing to grasp.

 

[Neutron]

It seems sometime ISIS is playing as front man of Israel

 

[ranjeet]

These ISIS groupies in Kashmir will get it real hard if they don't stop their wet dreams. Pakistanis would not like to be seen raising their voice on international media in support of ISIS fanatics.

 

[dravidianhero]

How have you come to conclusion that Daesh is gaining popularity in Pakistan? Links you provided give nothing as evidence to popularity gain by them. One link tells us since Pakistani soldiers came under Sniper fire hence it must be ISIS because they use these tactics. What the heck?! TTP has been using snipers for a very long time. All militaries and insurgents use snipers. It is not exclusive ISIS tactics.

Second link talks of TTP spokesperson announcing support to IS. Do you when it was? October 2014! Do you know the guy has been already killed by a drone? And most importantly those making these allegiance vows are sitting in Afghanistan not Pakistan. So you should be worrying about Afghanistan where your billions of $ are invested. Anyone can come up with a video or a flag and upload on Internet. That doesn't mean it has gained momentum in a certain society. As far as I know, it was an Indian Muslim running IS show on computers.

As far Kashmiris waiving IS flag side by side to Pakistan flag, I saw no picture or anything supporting it. Now you would love to see those, I know but have you experienced that joyful moment yet? Please provide us with some evidence. Don't come up with half cooked conspiracy theories. Sure Pakistan will look out for any sign of IS presence but at the moment it isn't there. Read up US ambassador to Pakistan's statement on this subject. Don't misguide people because of your weird burning desires!

Cool down mate..thank s you have enlightened me about the situation in pak...as for kashmiris I am all for their rights as long as they don't pose any threat to India...Kashmiris have a very bad reputation among indians for the way they killed and evacuated lakhs of Sikhs and Hindu pandits..if they run around with daesh flags they are not going to gain sympathy of an average Indian ;on the contrary they attract more hate.

 

[Paksanity]

Cool down mate..thank s you have enlightened me about the situation in pak...as for kashmiris I am all for their rights as long as they don't pose any threat to India...Kashmiris have a very bad reputation among indians for the way they killed and evacuated lakhs of Sikhs and Hindu pandits..if they run around with daesh flags they are not going to gain sympathy of an average Indian ;on the contrary they attract more hate.

But have they raised Daesh flags? Title of the thread suggests so. If yes, it is alarming obviously. But have they?

 

[knight11]

dravidianhero it is not the matter of muslim or the kashmiris in kashmir but is a matter of concern for the whole region. if isis gains popularity in Pakistan it will definitely comes to india. This kind is not bound to any boundary.

 

[dravidianhero]

But have they raised Daesh flags? Title of the thread suggests so. If yes, it is alarming obviously. But have they?

ISIS brutalities remind of Hindu killings in Kashmir

ISIS and Al Qaeda flags make a debut in Kashmir | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

 

[ranjeet]

But have they raised Daesh flags? Title of the thread suggests so. If yes, it is alarming obviously. But have they?

They have their own chapter of ISIS as well ISJK

 

[dravidianhero]

dravidianhero it is not the matter of muslim or the kashmiris in kashmir but is a matter of concern for the whole region. if isis gains popularity in Pakistan it will definitely comes to india. This kind is not bound to any boundary.

I admit it is a concern to India but I don't think they will pose a big threat..it is easy for them to carry out their activities in an extremist Islamic country like Pakistan where there are millions of people to recruit and supply funds.

It is not that easy to do that in India..Indian Muslims mostly are interested in providing studies to their children and getting good jobs...Kashmir is a Muslim dominated state..that is the reason you could see such support but Muslims in other parts of India are poles apart from them..it is not that they are ultra liberal but mostly are concerned about their well being (.thanks to their living among Hindus)

 

[Paksanity]

They have their own chapter of ISIS as well ISJK

Lol...!
Dear Ranjeet, when ISIS and Al-Qaeda flags are together like this, you should know it's a fake. With a purpose of attention seeking only! These two organisations are sworn enemies and would kill each other. In words of US ambassador anyone can stick up a flag or write a slogan in a remote area for few minutes, take a picture and upload on Internet. It doesn't mean ISIS has arrived. As an older member I expected you to know this.

 

[GulfOiLFields]

OK Kashmiri's who are waving the Isis flags are not Muslims ?because Muslims can't support such munafiqs who act as Muslims to carry out the evil designs of the US and the west..right?

Hey do i have to get down to your level just explain what is ISIS?give it a google.
Kashmir has suffered alot years of theft ,prison, killing just like the iraqi youth by US hands the fact is kashmiri people will take any chance to get their freedom just like shiks dont care if their supporter is a muslim ,hindu ,shik, jew.

Hope it answers the Question. Good day.

 

[Paksanity]

ISIS brutalities remind of Hindu killings in Kashmir

ISIS and Al Qaeda flags make a debut in Kashmir | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

Following is a copy-paste from your provided link.


"Is there any presence of ISIS or Al Qaeda in Kashmir?
Neither of the two pan-Islamic Jihadi organizations have presence in Jammu and Kashmir."

Second link leads to same picture by Ranjeet. They are essentially Kashmiris youth wannabees. Trying to draw attention to their plight. Since today ISIS makes big news, hence the banners.