Why does India want to compare itself to China?

[blood]

According to the Economist, India's development indicators are 40 years behind China's.

Comparing India and China: Chasing the dragon | The Economist



Indians know this themselves (even their own top economist Amartya Sen keeps saying it)... but every day I hear Indians claiming that India is better than China.

can you quote anyone , please don't speak b.s , i have never heard any indian news channel ever saying that india is better than china , they always keep saying that we need to learn from the chinese growth , in our cbse hindi syllabus we also have a chapter on chinese growth in our higher secondary , so please don't talk crap , we never compare ourselfs with china , we rather just see you as a competitor .

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Failed State Index is an opinion by a think tank in Washington DC, it has no real significance. It is not based on any factual evidence. Pakistan is an active member in the WOT & is in a state of war, as have been UK & Turkey in the past, when their cities were bombed everyday. There have been more casualties from terrorism in India from 1994-2005 than there have been in Pakistan in the WOT from 2001-2011. The FSI is also facing many criticisms:



allAfrica.com: Africa: What is a Failed State? Look Over Your Shoulder

At the end of the day, if you can't provide any factual evidence to support your claims based on solid data, the opinions of think tanks doesn't matter.

I know that you will give CIA world fact book data to prove your point because it suits you and when it don't suits you just say that it is bullshit. Anyway did you count the number of people died in Pakistan because of target killings in Karachi. This year only 1500 people died of target killings. Karachi can alone overtake all data of people of people died in India between 1995-2005.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Because the west labeled China and India as the "rising giants". Rising of the east and all that good stuff. Indian media just ran with it..


India will meet expectations.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Because the west labeled China and India as the "rising giants". Rising of the east and all that good stuff. Indian media just ran with it..

India 2025: What kind of superpower? - Economic Times

By Anil K Gupta.

India will meet expectations.

When?

 

[53fd]

I know that you will give CIA world fact book data to prove your point because it suits you and when it don't suits you just say that it is bullshit. Anyway did you count the number of people died in Pakistan because of target killings in Karachi. This year only 1500 people died of target killings. Karachi can alone overtake all data of people of people died in India between 1995-2005.

Nah, I don't think so. I have given statistics on the number of deaths related to terrorism & other forms of violence in numerous threads, & it cannot be compared to Pakistan as it is much much higher. You also seem to forget that Karachi alone is the size of Sri Lanka's population (20 million). But there are less incidents of violence in Pakistan as compared to India.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

India 2025: What kind of superpower? - Economic Times

By Anil K Gupta.



When?

In our life time.

 

[53fd]

I know that you will give CIA world fact book data to prove your point because it suits you and when it don't suits you just say that it is bullshit.

Where did you quote any data from the CIA World Factbook or any other reputable international agency?

 

[53fd]

Even in terms of public debt, India's public debt to GDP ratio is 51.9%, Pakistan's is 50.7%, China's is 18.9% & the US's is 62.3%.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Nah, I don't think so. I have given statistics on the number of deaths related to terrorism & other forms of violence in numerous threads, & it cannot be compared to Pakistan as it is much much higher. You also seem to forget that Karachi alone is the size of Sri Lanka's population (20 million). But there are less incidents of violence in Pakistan as compared to India.

Buddy, India has seven times larger population than your country. 5 deaths in your country means more unstability in your country then 5 deaths in India. And what happens in Karachi, that type of Violence happens nowhere in the world. every 2-3 years Karachi explodes into ethnic tensions and end up with deaths of thousand people.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Where did you quote any data from the CIA World Factbook or any other reputable international agency?

Yes, right now you will say only CIA world fact book is authentic an moody's is false.

Now let me provide another link from CIA World fact book. I want to see your reaction and reactions of Chinese after that.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html

RANK
COUNTRY (%) DATE OF INFORMATION
1 Qatar 16.30
2010 est.
2 Paraguay 15.30
2010 est.
3 Singapore 14.50
2010 est.
4 Taiwan 10.80
2010 est.
5 India 10.40
2010 est.
6 China 10.30
2010 est.

CIA World fact book is giving more Real GDP growth rate to India than China.

 

[53fd]

Yes, right now you will say only CIA world fact book is authentic an moody's is false.

Now let me provide another link from CIA World fact book. I want to see your reaction and reactions of Chinese after that.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2003rank.html

RANK
COUNTRY (%) DATE OF INFORMATION
1 Qatar 16.30
2010 est.
2 Paraguay 15.30
2010 est.
3 Singapore 14.50
2010 est.
4 Taiwan 10.80
2010 est.
5 India 10.40
2010 est.
6 China 10.30
2010 est.

CIA World fact book is giving more Real GDP growth rate to India than China.

Good for India (& if you realize, it says 'estimated'). But this growth rate does not reflect any improvements for the Indian people, or Indian society in general. India's programs are riddled with corruption where only a very few benefit from, & most of the country does not. As is pretty evident with the parameters shown on Post # 1.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Good for India. But this growth rate does not reflect any improvements for the Indian people, or Indian society in general. India's programs are riddled with corruption where only a very few benefit from, & most of the country does not. As is pretty evident with the parameters shown.

China is only little better than India when it comes to corruption and in China all big scams done by government is censored by using their censorship tools. China has a edge over India because their reforms dates back to 1978 and our 1991. And for India the milestone is 2020, not 2011.

 

[jbond197]

India 2025: What kind of superpower? - Economic Times

By Anil K Gupta.



When?

You can not generalize based on one article or may be a few articles.. Do you?

India will meet its own expectations which we have devised ourselves. we will take our time and will tackle our problems. None of this has anything to do with China and to the least with Pakistan.

 

[IND151]

Why do Indians want to compare their nation to China, & equate Pakistan to Afghanistan, when by all socioeconomic, political, health, development measures etc, India & Pakistan are very similar; & India is nothing like Pakistan. Saying Pakistan is like Afghanistan is like saying India is like Afghanistan.

So just a few examples:

1) GDP per capita:

Pakistan------India-------China

$1207-------$1400-------$4400


2) Current account balance:

Pakistan------------India----------------China

$-1.85 billion----$-51.78 billion----$+305.4 billion


3) Inflation:

Pakistan---------India----------China

11%------------9.39%----------4.2%


4) Unemployment:

Pakistan---------India----------China

5.95%-----------9.4%----------4.3%


5) Structure of economy (% of GDP by sector):

-----------Pakistan-----India-------China

agriculture: 21.2%------19%-------10.2%
--industry: 25.4%------26.3%----46.9%
--services: 53.4%----54.7%----43.0%


6) Life expectancy at birth (years):

Pakistan-------India--------China

65.4----------65.4----------73.5


7) Education Index (expected & mean years of schooling):

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.386---------0.45----------0.623


8) Income Inequality Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.346----------0.392---------0.534


9) Multidimensional Poverty Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.264----------0.283---------0.056


10) Gender Inequality Index:

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.573---------0.617--------0.209

World total milk production in 2009
FAO statistics [30]
(including cow/buffalo/goat/sheep/camel milk)
Rank Country Production (106 kg/y)
World 696,554
1 India 110,040
2 United States 85,859
3 China 40,553
4 Russia 32,562
5 Pakistan 34,362
6 Germany 28,691
7 Brazil 27,716
8 France 24,218
9 New Zealand 15,217
10 United Kingdom 13,237
11 Italy 12,836
12 Turkey 12,542
13 Poland 12,467
14 Ukraine 11,610
15 Netherlands 11,469
16 Mexico 10,931
17 Argentina 10,500
18 Australia 9,388
19 Canada 8,213
20 Japan 7,909

Source> Dairy farming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Rank Country/Region 2007 2008 2009 2010
Crude steel production (million tonnes):
— World 1,351.3 1326.5 1,219.7 1,413.6
1 People's Republic of China 494.9 500.3 573.6 626.7
— European Union 209.7 198.0 139.1 172.9
2 Japan 120.2 118.7 87.5 109.6
3 United States 98.1 91.4 58.2 80.6
4 Russia 72.4 68.5 60.0 67.0
5 India 53.5 57.8 62.8 66.8
6 South Korea 51.5 53.6 48.6 58.5
7 Germany 48.6 45.8 32.7 43.8
8 Ukraine 42.8 37.3 29.9 33.6
9 Brazil 33.8 33.7 26.5 32.8
10 Turkey 25.8 26.8 25.3 29.0
11 Italy 31.6 30.6 19.7 25.8
12 Taiwan 20.9 19.9 15.7 19.6
13 Mexico 17.6 17.2 14.2 17.0
14 Spain 19.0 18.6 14.3 16.3
15 France 19.3 17.9 12.8 15.4
16 Canada 15.6 14.8 9.0 13.0
17 Iran 10.1 10.0 10.9 12.0
18 United Kingdom 14.3 13.5 10.1 9.7
19 South Africa 9.1 8.3 7.5 8.5
20 Belgium 10.7 10.7 5.6 8.1
21 Poland 10.6 9.7 7.2 8.0
22 Australia 7.9 7.6 5.2 7.3
23 Austria 7.6 7.6 5.7 7.2
24 Egypt 6.2 6.2 5.5 6.7
25 Netherlands 7.4 6.8 5.2 6.7
26 Czech Republic 7.1 6.4 4.6 5.2
27 Argentina 5.4 5.5 4.0 5.1
28 Saudi Arabia 4.6 4.7 4.7 5.0
29 Sweden 5.7 5.2 2.8 4.8
30 Slovakia 5.1 4.5 3.7 4.6
31 Kazakhstan 4.8 4.3 4.1 4.3
32 Malaysia 6.9 6.4 4.0 4.1
33 Finland 4.4 4.4 3.1 4.0
34 Romania 6.3 5.0 2.7 3.9
35 Thailand 5.6 5.2 3.6 3.7
36 Indonesia 4.2 3.9 3.5 3.6
37 Vietnam 2.3 2.7 2.7 2.7
38 Luxembourg 2.9 2.6 2.2 2.6
39 Belarus 2.4 2.6 2.4 2.5
40 Venezuela 5.0 4.2 3.8 2.2
— Others[3] 29.8 (est.) 28.3 (est.) 23.3 (est.) 25.6 (est.)

source> List of countries by steel production - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





you got your answer i think

in steel production your nation is not even top 40

 

[aristocrat]

Good for India (& if you realize, it says 'estimated'). But this growth rate does not reflect any improvements for the Indian people, or Indian society in general. India's programs are riddled with corruption where only a very few benefit from, & most of the country does not. As is pretty evident with the parameters shown on Post # 1.

so chinese or pakistani programs are not??A country's progress is better measured by comparing where it with itself.All statistics that matter are better today for india than in the past while opposite is true for pakistan.