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Why does China keep supporting Burma in the Rohingya crisis?

Well, China and Russia both are saying this issue is between Myanmar and Bangladesh but giving veto at UN at the same time and not staying neutral like India. Kinda double standard don't you think? If they think the issue is between two countries why they are getting involved every time? Let them handle it then diplomatically and why China cares if UN, Human Rights and West protest?

of course !! China will stay neutral if the west stop intervening other countries' matter. But now, evey single move of the west is specially designed to make destablize the region and halt the China led projects. So China has to invlove. But thanks to China's non intervening policy, China acted as the middle man and tried to solve the crisis peacefully unlike the west.At the same time , They are defending all the unfair resolutions which make the situation worse using veto.This is win-win for all parties and a lot better than what the west did.
 
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And their main enemy is their own people not external. So they can use any bullet to kill them.. :close_tema:
In recent times, burmese military have became more reliant on air force to do the counter insurgency operations rocking the multiple states. Recent frenzy of acquiring fighter jets by burmese is mainly to that reason. So ,most of the burmese air forces are necessary to fight within the country. It is debatable on how much air force they can spare if some serious conflict happen involving other countries.
 
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China will not favor MM over BD. China has got a lot of money to make in BD, much much more than MM, and China needs a larger sphere of influence amongit's neighbors in Asia to be a great power. They won't antagonize a friendly country like BD for a shithole like MM.

LOL the direct sea exit for landlock states of China to BoB via arakan state is much more important than anything what tiny BD can offer. to get larger sphere of influence , it has to start with neigbouring countries. but unfortunatedly , the tiny BD is excluded in that list. :P

Whoever Indian citizens were taken by the British to work in Burma were kicked out to India after 1948. Rohingyas do not belong to that group. They have been living there since at least 1410 CE.
not all. Most of them are businessmen. After their properties and business were nationalized , they , most from big cities, were forced to leave the country. but Many people who worked as general workers and other places did not include during expelling time. that's why u can see many Indian culture and Indian people even in Yangon. If we expelled all , how come these indian still exist even in Yagon. ?

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In recent times, burmese military have became more reliant on air force to do the counter insurgency operations rocking the multiple states. Recent frenzy of acquiring fighter jets by burmese is mainly to that reason. So ,most of the burmese air forces are necessary to fight within the country. It is debatable on how much air force they can spare if some serious conflict happen involving other countries.
Army is rarely used fighter jets in civil war. light trainers and attack heli are enough. so dont worry..!! MiG-29s , JF-17 and Su-30 will take care if there is any case of BD.
 
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We should be quite conscious that the current Rohingya issue has a long history and had its root cause from the British colonial period. While we are sympathetic to the misery of common people (including Rohingya Muslim, Rohingya Hindu and Arakanese), it is more than just a humanitarian issue.

International historians generally agree that while there has been continuous people movement in the past (maybe going both ways depending on how far you look back), mostly modern Rohingya people migrated into Arakan during British colonial period of 19th and 20th centuries. This migration was encouraged by British India authority, facilitied by the merger of Arakan into Bengal presidency by the East India Company. It could be much discontent among locals, but the violence was rare under the British rule.

The WWII has been a key period when when the violence erupted between the Rohingya group, which was armed by British and was supposed to fight Japanese, and Rakhines, which was armed by Japanese. The tension and conflict were spread to wider Myanmar with the retreat of the British. The violence at much lower level probably has been ongoing since the independence of Myanmar.

The recent eruption of the crisis is a humanitarian crisis and tragedy for sure but it could become a lot worse when external players get involved. Just have a look at the countries seen “international intervention”. China together with India, who also is quite conscious it is not in its best interest in seeing someone’s aircraft carriers and bombers in the neighborhood, had tried to keep the issue locally and not spin out of control.

Given how much Bangladesh economy is dependent on garment trade, one can be assured that when there is an armed conflict (to these who like to talk about a limited war), all international investment will be pulled out when the investors have any doubt about the security of their investment. 7% annual growth and upcoming LDC graduation will be a dream.


Dude, please research before posting.
BD has little FDI.
Nearly all garment factories are home grown.
 
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CHINA once again boycotted talks at the United Nations Security Council aimed at addressing the Rohingya refugee crisis taking place in Burma (Myanmar), diplomats told Reuters on Monday.

This is the latest in a long line of Chinese efforts to divert any course action aimed at solving the crisis, which saw more than 700,000 Rohingya Muslims flee across the border to Bangladesh.

Not only has Beijing stopped any international intervention, it has also openly voiced support for the military’s efforts, saying Burma is merely “maintaining its domestic stability.”

The accusations against the Tatmadaw, another name for Burma’s military, have been building, with the UN going so far as accusing them of ethnic cleansing. The international condemnation has been almost universal – almost.

Beijing continues to hold strong, despite international pressure and mounting evidence of war crimes. So what is it about this Southeast Asian nation of 50 million that has China happily making apologies for genocide?

Strings attached protection
As the United States withdraws from the region, China sheltering Burma’s military and political leaders from international pressure draws them closer into Beijing’s orbit.

“The Rohingya crisis really creates an opportunity” for China with Burma, Yun Sun, an expert on Burma-China relations at the Washington-based Stimson Center, told The Wall Street Journal. “Now’s the time to show them who their real friends are.”

Predictably, it’s not for purely selfless reasons. Burma is a resource-rich neighbour and by extending the hand of friendship, China ensures its companies get first dibs after all other regional players have been scathing of the Tatmadaw’s actions.

This is already starting to pay dividends as Chinese companies are responsible for roughly a quarter of the country’s foreign direct investment. The Communist Party is also investing heavily in infrastructure projects – all of which now need protecting.

Both countries recently signed a deal to develop the huge China-funded Kyauk Phyu Special Economic Zone deep-sea port in the very state in which the Rohingya have faced persecution. While not in the volatile areas of Rakhine state, the threat of terrorism spilling over to parts where they have invested worries Beijing.

The port is key to regional connectivity and is a pillar of President Xi Jinping’s ambitious Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). It is to act as the starting point of an oil-gas pipeline and railroad link to Yunnan state in China.

This is only the beginning with new high-speed rail lines, roads and industry expected to follow.

Clip the wings of international intervention
It’s no secret that Beijing likes governments to keep themselves to themselves, preferring a non-interventionist approach to internal affairs.

China’s fear is that, should the United Nations take a role in resolving and seeking justice in the case of the Rohingya, it will set a precedent for UN involvement in other border issues, of which China has no shortage.

One such conflict is in the northern reaches of Burma, where conflicts between the Tatmadaw and rebel groups have been raging along the Chinese border.

China’s view “is that there shouldn’t be any international interference in ethnic conflicts in Myanmar, because that might affect what’s happening at the border,” Nicholas Bequelin, Amnesty International’s East Asia director, told the Journal.

Despite flutters of wariness from Burma’s military over China’s mounting leverage in the country, the relationship has persisted.

China remains Burma’s number one trading partner, weathering the storm of the government’s pivot to western countries earlier this decade.

As China emerges as a superpower with jaw-dropping global ambitions, the proximity and strategic significance of Burma makes it a prime target for Chinese intervention.

https://asiancorrespondent.com/2018...3J3gUwoUmLb3p0fEfFOs9s2C8VDP22ZDgZUgKoZPSd94k
First the Uighurs.
Now this.

Two multi-billion dollar Chinese seaports near critical Israeli sites are raising concerns over potential security issues and relations with Washington
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An Israeli naval officer holds the mooring rope of the INS Tanin, a Dolphin AIP class submarine, on its arrival at a naval base in the northern Israeli city of Haifa. Photo: AFP



China is constructing seaports at two sites where the US 6th Fleet deploys, in Haifa next to Israel’s main naval base and Ashdod near Tel Aviv, prompting concerns about China’s military potential in the Mediterranean Sea and Middle East.



“The civilian [Chinese] port in Haifa abuts the exit route from the adjacent [Israeli] navy base, where the Israeli submarine fleet is stationed and which, according to foreign media reports, maintains a second-strike capability to launch nuclear missiles,” Israel’s Haaretz media reported.

“No one in Israel thought about the strategic ramifications,” Haaretz said in September.
The guided-missile destroyer USS Arleigh Burke visited Haifa on October 25 in support of the 6th Fleet which is headquartered in Naples, Italy.

Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG) signed the Haifa contract in 2015, began construction in June, and is to operate the Bayport Terminal for 25 years starting from 2021.

SIPG signed memorandums of understanding with U.S. ports in Seattle, Washington in 2006 and Georgia Ports Authority in 2004, plus Barcelona, Spain, in 2006.

SIPG also works with European ports in Rotterdam, Hamburg and London, and two ports in Japan, its website said.

China Harbor Engineering, one of China’s biggest government-owned enterprises, is meanwhile constructing a port at Ashdod, 25 miles (40 kilometers) south of Tel Aviv.

“At $3 billion, this is one of the biggest overseas investment projects in Israel, ever, and also one of the biggest for the Chinese company, China Harbor Engineering,” wrote Arthur Herman, senior fellow at the Washington-based Hudson Institute think tank in November.

“Ashdod on the Mediterranean coast is the destination of fully 90 percent of Israel’s international maritime traffic,” Herman said.

Ashdod’s current port hosted the USS Ross guided-missile destroyer in October which also supports “U.S. national security interests in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations,” a USS Ross public affairs officer said on the Navy’s website.

“This is an historic moment,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in 2017 when he joined Chinese officials to lay the cornerstone of the Ashdod port.

Israel’s Transportation Ministry and the Ports Authority permitted construction of the Chinese ports at Haifa and Ashdod “with zero involvement of the [Israeli] National Security Council and without the [Israeli] navy,” Haaretz said.

“The first [concern] is over Chinese control of strategic infrastructure and the possibility of espionage,” the London-based Economist magazine reported in October.

“Israeli submarines, widely reported to be capable of launching nuclear missiles, are docked there [at Haifa]. Yet the deal with the Chinese firm was never discussed by the cabinet or the national security council, a situation one [Israeli] minister described as astonishing,” the Economist said.


Trading routes
“There are skeptics in several Israeli political parties and among former national security officials, who warn of potential security issues and possible friction with the United States resulting from Chinese involvement in Israeli infrastructure projects,” wrote Elliott Abrams, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations and former deputy national security advisor to President George W Bush.

The ports form part of China’s international, multi-billion dollar Belt and Road Initiative.

The Belt and Road project would link China with countries elsewhere in Asia, the Middle East and Europe along lucrative trading routes across land and sea, with Ashdod serving as a crucial port for seaborne trade with Europe, Abrams said.

China’s Haifa and Ashdod ports are part of “an ambitious trans-Asian strategy to pursue three key resources for China’s future greatness: petrochemicals, consumer markets, and advanced technology,” he said in his 2018 brief. Middle East oil and gas fuels China’s growth.

The Middle East would also offer a huge commercial market for purchasing Chinese exports, including consumer goods, electronics and other items. Gilad Cohen, the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s deputy director general for Asia and the Pacific, is bullish on Chinese investments in Israel. “Recently there have been increasing warnings against allowing China to participate in projects and investments in Israel.”

Cohen said in October. “There are some who go as far as to deem any Chinese economic involvement in our region as a threat to our interests and a danger to our economic independence. These statements are damaging to relations between the countries.

“We are a country with confidence in its capabilities, unafraid of exposure to new markets, while we safeguard our security and strategic interests,” Cohen wrote in a published opinion piece headlined: “How Close to China is Too Close for Israel?”

Prime Minister Netanyahu meanwhile hosted China’s Vice President Wang Qishan along with Jack Ma, CEO and founder of the e-commerce giant Alibaba, in Jerusalem in October.

Their summit “reflects the growing ties between our countries, our economies, our peoples,” Netanyahu said.

In 2017, Netanyahu visited Beijing and met Chinese President Xi Jinping.

China established diplomatic relations with Israel in 1992 when Deng Xiaoping and Yitzhak Rabin were in power, and continues to support Israel during votes in the United Nations.
Is money everything?
Do Muslim lives matter zilch?
 
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Arakan is the land of Rohingyas so they will fight there. China cannot just interfere because it is just another domestic issue of its crony Burma. Am I wrong to say it when China always talks of non-interference in any country's domestic matters?
 
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Muslim countries should provide training and weapons to the young me of Arakan.
And give refuge to the women, children and the elderly.
Burma must be made to surrender.

But then, all this is wishful thinking.
 
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Muslim countries should provide training and weapons to the young me of Arakan.
And give refuge to the women, children and the elderly.
Burma must be made to surrender.

But then, all this is wishful thinking.
Most of the time muslim men turn their gun against their host. Muslims are the biggest traitor in the human civilization. Problem lies there.
@bluesky
 
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what provocation...??!! ohh,they do have the right to choose side and support a genocidal regime but we dont have the right to raise our voice against that wrong act,naah??
What happened to the post you are replying to? Did it commit suicide? Did you or the UKbongle got it removed by pleading victimhood to one of your ummatti bros the mods? Or did I delete it? Or did I even post it? God-damned place is so contradictory and surreal, It is hard to know whether I am coming or going.

You are sad and pathetic.
Lol

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@doorstar that post you made of all the lines of UglyBengali was just so classic haha.
What post? :(

First the Uighurs.
Now this.

Is money everything?
Do Muslim lives matter zilch?
OMG! the PDF is still letting members believe that this shiv-sainik is one of their Muslim ummati bros. Is this the twilight zone?

Muslim countries should provide training and weapons to the young men of Arakan.
shiv sena devil in human form trying to increase fasaad to eliminate Muslims
 
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