Why are we so adamant in our support for Palestine when they themselves support India against us?

[Naofumi]

I don't see the advantage of that.

Pakistan's raison d'être is to be Muslim, there's no other way round, there would not have been any partition, they're not even homogenous like Turkey.
A unique brand of religion can work like the Wahhabism work for Saudis or Shi'ism for Iran.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Pakistan's raison d'être is to be Muslim, there's no other way round, there would not have been any partition, they're not even homogenous like Turkey.
A unique brand of religion can work like the Wahhabism work for Saudis or Shi'ism for Iran.

It can be a mixture of Indus River Valley history mixed in with the unique brand of religion seeped into the society

 

[Naofumi]

It can be a mixture of Indus River Valley history mixed in with the unique brand of religion seeped into the society

Islam has have a place somewhere at least for 50-60 years till then population will become mature.

 

[Cliftonite]

There are more differences between the languages I agree the thing is most of the languages do have Persian influence whether you like it or not

The main thing in learning a language is the grammar structure. Pashto and Persian have similar grammar structure. As much as our Ummati brothers deny it, Urdu's base grammar is very simolar to North Indian languages like Punjabi and Gujarati. Ergative cases etc. Turkish is another ballpark. It's an agglutinative language in which you pile on suffixes to form whole sentences in one or two words.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

ummah is not for muslims but mumineen. where do they/us measure up?

 

[Yankee-stani]

Mods, take care of this guy.

You see what I mean @Cliftonite @Indus Pakistan @Salahuddin Ayyubi @Desert Fox @Mugen @Ladyuk this dude who like me probably is a diaspora grew up in America has the audacity to think he is more Pakistani than me or you combined wow

 

[QWECXZ]

Pakistan's raison d'être is to be Muslim, there's no other way round, there would not have been any partition, they're not even homogenous like Turkey.
A unique brand of religion can work like the Wahhabism work for Saudis or Shi'ism for Iran.

Yeah. Yet, they need to find a national identity. If they haven't formed one after half a century, they will never be able to form one. Many other countries have become sovereign nations in Europe and Asia and almost all of them have been able to form their own identities. Look at Eastern Europe or the Caucasus for example.

Shi'ism does not play a role in the Iranian identity. The Iranian identity that unifies Iranians is based on Nowruz, the Yalda Eve, the Persian Literature (Hafiz, Khayyam, Mowlana, Sa'di, Ferdowsi, etc.) and the Iranian history from the Median Empire to the 1979 revolution.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You will struggle. Contrary to what my pan Islamist Pakistani brothers say Turkce ve Urdu cok different Lol spent some time in Turkey. Beautiful country y'all have got.

Still remember the metro train announcement. M2 line Istanbul. Gelecek Istanbul Dorduncu Levent lol

You are always ignited, go take sar malish in lahore like our Turk brother in Lahore from the video. Chill out man. Where does all this aggression come from?

 

[Cliftonite]

Pakistan's raison d'être is to be Muslim, there's no other way round, there would not have been any partition, they're not even homogenous like Turkey.
A unique brand of religion can work like the Wahhabism work for Saudis or Shi'ism for Iran.

Not what our founding fathers envisioned it. It was meant to be a safe haven for Muslims of subcontinent, free from Hindu hegemony. Much like Israel is a haven for Jews without being religious per se. It's the Mullahs who hijacked it and made religion the raison d etre of the state.

 

[Yankee-stani]

You are always ignited, go take sar malish in lahore like our Turk brother in Lahore from the video. Chill out man. Where does all this aggression come from?

I dont know what's with your agression with folks having a different opinion from yours

 

[Naofumi]

Shi'ism does not play a role in the Iranian identity. The Iranian identity that unifies Iranians is based on Nowruz, the Yalda Eve, the Persian Literature (Hafiz, Khayyam, Mowlana, Sa'di, Ferdowsi, etc.) and the Iranian history from the Median Empire to the 1979 revolution.

True for secular agnostic like you, what about devout Shi'as who form at least 40-50% of the population (just a random guess)?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Not what our founding fathers envisioned it. It was meant to be a safe haven for Muslims of subcontinent, free from Hindu hegemony. Much like Israel is a haven for Jews without being religious per se. It's the Mullahs who hijacked it and made religion the raison d etre of the state.

Men like Ch. Rehmat Ali, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, and Allama Iqbal were part and parcel of the struggle for Pakistan.

Islamic basis of Pakistan comes from the founding fathers. Even Quaid e Azam made many statements which were religious.

 

[QWECXZ]

True for secular agnostic like you, what about devout Shi'as who form at least 40-50% of the population (just a random guess)?

The same. When the 1979 revolution happened, Khomeini tried to give Islamic ceremonies equal importance to Iranian ceremonies. He failed miserably.

 

[Yankee-stani]

He certainly knew more about the subject than I. All I want is Pakistanis to focus on fixing Pakistan.

Exactly none of this shrilling for Arabs,Iran, Turkey or Chinese its seems the thesis of many PDF boys here is to defend those countries more than Pakistan

 

[Cliftonite]

Men like Ch. Rehmat Ali, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, and Allama Iqbal were part and parcel of the struggle for Pakistan.

Islamic basis of Pakistan comes from the founding fathers. Even Quaid e Azam made many statements which were religious.

And then you ask why I troll you? Aisi bongiyaan maaro ge tou troll na karun tou kya karu?. Also gems like Urdu is a dialect of Dari. Historical revisionism thou speaketh.