Pan-Islamic-Pakistan
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Which sides are you on when it comes to Kurdish issue in Turkey?
Every Kurd (from any country) I have met has always been pro-Turkey. History and culture of the two is intertwined.
PKK is a terrorist group. They don’t represent Kurds.
Lol, China is not pakistan allies
Both country only have a good term relationship. Thats it.
Like i Said in the past and i Will Said again in here.
Your allies is Turkey and Arab
With China, it is just business as usual
Oh, you think China Will sacrifice her national interest to country like pakistan? Boy, what kind of medicine you took? China wont give a shit what other muslim World think.. what happened in Xinjiang is internal matter.
Want to change it? Go fight for it..
oh wait, you guys better grows some balls First
I really believe you are an Indian. Why are you egging on this fight?
They are both separatist and terrorist groups, and you support one and oppose another, well done.
Common line of West, but not true. Turkey is a sovereign state and PKK is a terrorist group (currently supported by West, Israel, and other countries.)
In Turkey itself, the situation of the Kurds isn't that bad. Turkey doesn't send them to re-education camps or whatever like China does. Also, the ruling AKP party in Turkey gets tonnes of kurdish votes.
Trying to compare the situation of kurds to uighurs is dishonest.
Kurds in Turkey see themselves as any other Turk. Erdogan is popular among Kurds I know from Turkey, Iraq, and Syria. Iranian Kurds are Shia and loyal to Iran.
Chines Gov should make a fair policy for them.
Forcing any one to adopt some one concept is bad at all.
You know it create hate among masses. If you force a girl/ Boy to marrying you its mean he/ She can destroy your life even you have abundant power by any means.
But any gov is wise enough to make a strategic policy to give aptly life to its pop, and its called a good nation where public is happy.
Hope Chines gov would take necessary action.
My view exactly.
Where the emotional Kemalists (who can turn Islamist in seconds according to the situation) hiding. they run away after creating fight among Chinese and Pakistanis.. like bharatis they also desire Pakistan and China to be at each other's throat
By insulting Uyghurs and Turks with racial slurs and abusing Pakistan, you are not gaining any friends here.
Yes, there are some Indian members pretending to by Chinese to promote this fight.
We Pakistanis/Turks just want to discuss the camps, but Posters Haidian and Offshore want to abuse every Muslim. You see the difference.
What your Arab, Turk and persian brothers did for you when you were through worst last decade in history of Pakistan.. if any country remotely standing with us, its China.. I will prefer to stand for Chinese 100 times then for your brothers.
Anti-Muslim hysteria in China will eventually tarnish our relationship as well.
Turkey has always stood behind us.
True.. @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan should not note this.. they got what they wanted and now they are enjoying the game... Never buy their emotional rants. Thats what i learned here..
I only responded to Chinese members when they attacked my country..
As did I. I am not a hater of China.
I oppose their policy of religious persecution of Muslims in China. That’s it.
If that day came and Pakistan was exactly the way it is today - by that I mean how vast majority of Pakistanis place their identity as "Muslim" first then the simple anwser emphatically is -
YES
Pakistan would be sending hordes of fighters, money, weapons and giving asylum to as many Uighurs as you can imagine. They would get treated like heroes and all the mullahs would be giving fiery sermons about "jihad against the kuffar chinee". No doubt there would be some radical Turks joining the Pakistanis as well in this "Uighur jihad".
That is the honest truth!
That’s a very pessimistic view of Pakistanis you have.
How would rabid anti-Muslim populist sentiment effect the Chinese government? If these racist and haters take power in China, will our alliance last?
Have we not see what has happened to the US, Europe, India because of such rhetoric?
We have to nip this problem in the bud.
Both the Turks and Chinese who are mostly very rational must understand that realpolitik demands that Pakistan follow the policy it does. I want both to please try and appreciate our position and as friends, good friends both should not place us in a position where for lack of better way of explaining we are forced to choose between two fingers on our hand. We can't. and it is not fair for both sides to force this choice between both.
So guys try to avoid bringing Pakistanis into this difficult issue of Uighurs please.
- The Turks as 'good brothers" should know that we live in a very difficult part of the world. We have a neighbour that is nearly as large as ten Russias. Yes 10 Russias. Our neighbour on the east has nearly 7 to 1 majority in numbers over us. That is like a ocean we have to hold back. Then we have no real natural resources. Then we have no real export markets next door to us. Then we have no NATO like alliance to give us some leverage. We are alone. And probably can only count on Turks as our 'brothers' who sadly happen to divided from us by that annoying enigma called Iran. So do try to understand our predicament. On everything else I think you know where we stand.
- The Chinese are our strategic ally. Although truth be told we don';t share anything else in culture or religion but strategic reality brings us together and will not change anytime soon. So China you can depend on Pakistan because your not going to get another country on your southern flank that you can depend on as a strategic hedge against Indo-US hegemony. So try not to get excited. Pakistanis are not East Asians and never will be. But strict rules of business demand certain behaviour and yu guys are good at business. So follow those rules because it is win win for both.
Yes, good points. I agree 100%.