Why are the Arabs losing on every front?

[Hindustani78]

People like you make it really difficult to be pro Ummah.

Ummah is Spiritual union which is consist of many nations.

And if we read religious books of the Vedic and Abrahimic religions then there are prophecies which says that believers of the Supreme Creator from all religions will come on one platform to defeat the Anti Christ/ Anti Kalki.

 

[Avicenna]

Many reasons can be counted as to why the Arab nations fail to unite, but over the course of my 20 years of experience in the Arab World, I have boiled it down to three. The first is a problem of egocentricity. What I see as a moral issue, is present not only within the government, but also within the community, civil society organizations and the general public. The weakness of national spirit and dominance of tribal-oriented thoughts will bring the Arab World to the brink of a fire pit again.

Actually the article is pretty damn good and does address human nature as well at the points you made in your post.

Read it again.

 

[Matirpola]

This article is too idealistic and fails to take human nature into account.

No it doesn't. It says exactly that - that human nature is the problem.

I don't think Arabs or Europeans can suppress their human nature and unite like the Indians did. There's just too much 'human nature' in you.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Corrupted religious scholars Corrupted religious scholars Corrupted religious scholars

corrupted regimes

If the first one was good and care about the nation being well the regimes would act or do good weather like it or not

since people look at their scholars to see what they should do.

 

[Matirpola]

Corrupted religious scholars Corrupted religious scholars Corrupted religious scholars

corrupted regimes

If the first one was good and care about the nation being well the regimes would act or do good weather like it or not

since people look at their scholars to see what they should do.

Lol, you blame everyone other than yourselves, the average Arab guy. You can kill another Arab for the slightest of reasons, for being from a different Sect or Tribe. And when was it different anyway? It has been the same pre-Islam and much of post-Islam era.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Lol, you blame everyone other than yourselves, the average Arab guy. You can kill another Arab for the slightest of reasons, for being from a different Sect or Tribe. And when was it different anyway? It has been the same pre-Islam and much of post-Islam era.

Do you even understand what I wrote

Don't think so.

 

[Matirpola]

Do you even understand what I wrote

Don't think so.

Yes I do. You are blaming religious scholars for their not-so-good influence on your ruling regimes for the mess in your region. It's just another way of deflecting blame off yourselves, the average Arab guy.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

No it doesn't. It says exactly that - that human nature is the problem.

I don't think Arabs or Europeans can suppress their human nature and unite like the Indians did. There's just too much 'human nature' in you.

Well, it must be borne in mind that some nations and geographic regions have had a better history of political unity than others due to environmental and socio-cultural factors. For example, China, Japan and, to some extent, India have found it easier to exist as unified political entities (polities) than the Arabian Peninsula, the Horn of Africa, and mainland Europe.

As a general rule, the cradles of civilization -- such as Egypt, China, and the Indus Valley -- have found it easier to exist as unified polities than other parts of the world.

In any case, fragmentation within the Arab World and Europe is not necessarily a "bad" thing. On the contrary, fragmentation encourages competition and, normally, breeds success.

Had it not been for European fragmentation, the European age of discovery might not have taken place at all, nor would Western civilization have triumphed over the rest of the world in the 18th-20th centuries.

 

[Matirpola]

As a general rule, the cradles of civilization -- such as Egypt, China, and the Indus Valley -- have found it easier to exist as unified polities than other parts of the world.

Bull$hit theory.

The Egyptian civilization is long dead. Egypt being one country has nothing to do with it.

China is not the cradle of a civilization. Only the banks of the yellow river is. Modern China is far bigger and diverse than that.

Indus valley is in Pakistan and the civilization pre-dates Vedic migration. IVC has nothing to do with the state of the subcontinent now.

Fact is, people here are more civilized and humane and that's why have been able to form bigger, diverse countries (India, Pakistan) than greedy, violent, hormone-charged Euros and Arabs.

 

[Avicenna]

In this instance fragmentation IS a bad thing. What does the Quran say about all this?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Agreed the West does not follow the Quran and is divided. That doesn't preclude success.

What I am saying is the problems of secterianism, disunity, and violence plaguing the Muslim world has been addressed in the Quran and Sunnah. And to take for example, the geopolitical problems that exist...Think about actually implementing Islamic principles. Not paying lip service. I would submit that a lot of problems that exist would be solved for the Arabs or for that matter other Muslim countries.

I don't really expect you to understand what I am saying. For that matter alot of the Muslim folk here may not agree either or understand. But for my fellow muslims here, go and read the Quran and put it into the context of the present day. And please read and think about the Prophets last sermon. Very relevant to todays current events. Its amazing how it relevant it is.

And i completely agree with your last sentence.

It is not in the human nature to agree on everything.
The Arab failure is the result of not beeing to handle that disagreements exist.

 

[Avicenna]

Because people with high rates of obesity and diabetes don't usually win anything. Generally speaking,

Lol so much truth.

 

[Al-Andalus]

Yes, Arabs are lost and bound to be a hopeless bunch (despite much of the Arab world living better than the vast majority of the world) because some Turk wrote an simplistic and largely inaccurate article on some irrelevant media parroting the same one-sided and inaccurate discourse that we have heard since the Arab Spring began. A one-sided ignorant view that does not correspondent to most statistics that deal with economy, education, living standards, future prognosis, untapped potential etc.

In the real world the Arab world is the cradle of civilization (which it will always be), home to the most ancient civilizations on the planet and some of the most influential by far, most ancient cities etc.

The same Arabs who created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethnic group in the top 15) and are some of the most influential people in history. Who ruled the Muslim world and had the largest empires in the world for 800 years. Almost 1 millennia.
Yes, such people are indeed inherently bound to fail, says the average Bangladeshi etc. troll on this thread (who cannot even reach the ankles of Arabs in terms of legacy and influence with all due respect), on some thread on PDF.

OK.

And non-Arabs care because of what exactly? We do not care about your opinion. Stop obsessing about us. We will fail and tomorrow the Arab world and entire landmass of it from Morocco to Oman will vanish into the sea anyway. Then the Arab-obsessed individuals here can rejoice for all we care, because by then, we will all be dead.

Now I will return to the hugely failed GCC. I should move to Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or Indonesia instead. There people face no problems and the societies are flawless as they are in all of the Muslim world, expect the Arab world.

And yes, Arabs and Europeans love to kill each other and others. Now pfuck off Rakeesh 1, 2 and 3.

EDIT: This ridiculous article talks about the Arab world like it was a single entity and state when that is not even the case. It's a miracle to begin with that the 2 largest ethnic group in the world that lives on 2 continents and has 22 countries, even have a Arab League and many other organs where they cooperate. No other ethnic group this big has anything remotely similar. Especially when none, expect 1-2 of those states, are even democratic, meaning that the average person has no say in how their country and rulers is ruled/rule and how they interact with others, including fellow Arab countries. Let alone the historically events that has occurred in the region for the past 100 years.

In any case it will only become better and once that happens the haters will cry again.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Bull$hit theory.

The Egyptian civilization is long dead. Egypt being one country has nothing to do with it.

China is not the cradle of a civilization. Only the banks of the yellow river is. Modern China is far bigger and diverse than that.

Indus valley is in Pakistan and the civilization pre-dates Vedic migration. IVC has nothing to do with the state of the subcontinent now.

Fact is, people here are more civilized and humane and that's why have been able to form bigger, diverse countries (India, Pakistan) than greedy, violent, hormone-charged Euros and Arabs.

LOL, relax.

The ability to form geographically large countries has little to do with how "humane" you are and more to do with luck.

Going by your logic (or lack thereof), the Mongol Empire was more "humane" than any political entity in human history by virtue of its geographic size and cultural diversity.

 

[Avicenna]

Yes, Arabs are lost and bound to be a hopeless bunch (despite much of the Arab world living better than the vast majority of the world) because some Turk wrote an simplistic and largely inaccurate article on some irrelevant media parroting the same one-sided and inaccurate discourse that we have heard since the Arab Spring began. A one-sided ignorant view that does not correspondent to most statistics that deal with economy, education, living standards, future prognosis, untapped potential etc.

In the real world the Arab world is the cradle of civilization (which it will always be), home to the most ancient civilizations on the planet and some of the most influential by far, most ancient cities etc.

The same Arabs who created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethnic group in the top 15) and are some of the most influential people in history. Who ruled the Muslim world and had the largest empires in the world for 800 years. Almost 1 millennia.
Yes, such people are indeed inherently bound to fail, says the average Bangladeshi etc. troll on this thread (who cannot even reach the ankles of Arabs in terms of legacy and influence with all due respect), on some thread on PDF.

OK.

And non-Arabs care because of what exactly? We do not care about your opinion. Stop obsessing about us. We will fail and tomorrow the Arab world and entire landmass of it from Morocco to Oman will vanish into the sea anyway.

Lol are you aware of current events?

Also a people must play the hand they are dealt with the best way possible. Bangladeshis were dealt their hand by Allah. Let them play it as best possible.

Similarly, my Saudi friend, be ashamed at how you have played your hand.