So he was your invader, not ours. I'm just trying to understand things from Pakistan's point of view. Most of you agree with this history right???
Who are Wahabbi? What is Wahabbism?
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They invaded , massacred their forefathers, mingled with womenfolk, looted riches back to capital.
Guess who is proud of all these.
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Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab (1703 – 22 June 1792)
an Arabian Islamic theologian and founder of the Salafi movement[3] whose pact with Muhammad bin Saud helped to establish the first Saudi state[4] and began a dynastic alliance and power-sharing arrangement between their families which continues to the present day.[5] The descendants of Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab, the Al ash-Sheikh, have historically led the ulama in the Saudi state,[6] dominating the state's clerical institutions.
Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab is generally acknowledged[8] to have been born in 1703[9] into the Arab tribe of Banu Tamim[10] in 'Uyayna, a village in the Najd region of the modern Saudi Arabia.[11][12]
He was thought to have started studying Islam at an early age, primarily with his father, ʿAbd al-Wahhab[13][14] as his family was from a line of scholars of the Hanbali school of jurisprudence.[15]
Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab spent some time studying with Muslim scholars in Basra (in southern Iraq)[13][16] and it is reported that he traveled to the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina to perform Hajj and study with the scholars there.[17][18][19]
In Mecca, the Hanbali mufti, Ibn Humaydi, perceived Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab to be a poor student, and arrogant and defiant with his teachers, which upset his father. Consequently, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab did not complete his studies, but whether he was expelled or dropped out is unknown.[20]
In Medina, he studied under Mohammad Hayya Al-Sindhi, to whom he was introduced by an earlier tutor.[21] According to Voll, it was Muhammad Hayya who taught Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab to reject the popular veneration of saints and their tombs.[21] Nonetheless, almost all sources agree that his reformist ideas were formulated while living in Basra. He returned to 'Uyayna in 1740.
After his return home, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab began to attract followers, including the ruler of 'Uyayna, Uthman ibn Mu'ammar. With Ibn Mu'ammar's support, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab began to implement some of his ideas for reform. First, citing Islamic teachings forbidding grave worship, he persuaded Ibn Mu'ammar to level the grave of Zayd ibn al-Khattab, a companion of Muhammad, whose grave was revered by locals. Secondly, he ordered that all adulterors be stoned to death, a practice that had become uncommon in the area. Indeed, he personally organised the stoning of a woman who confessed that she had committed adultery.[22]
These actions gained the attention of Sulaiman ibn Muhammad ibn Ghurayr of the tribe of Bani Khalid, the chief of Al-Hasa and Qatif, who held substantial influence in Najd. Ibn Ghurayr threatened Ibn Mu'ammar that he would not allow him to collect a land tax for some properties that he owned in Al-Hasa if he did not kill Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab. Although Ibn Mu'ammar declined to do so, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab was still forced to leave
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
an Arabian Islamic theologian and founder of the Salafi movement[3] whose pact with Muhammad bin Saud helped to establish the first Saudi state[4] and began a dynastic alliance and power-sharing arrangement between their families which continues to the present day.[5] The descendants of Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab, the Al ash-Sheikh, have historically led the ulama in the Saudi state,[6] dominating the state's clerical institutions.
Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab is generally acknowledged[8] to have been born in 1703[9] into the Arab tribe of Banu Tamim[10] in 'Uyayna, a village in the Najd region of the modern Saudi Arabia.[11][12]
He was thought to have started studying Islam at an early age, primarily with his father, ʿAbd al-Wahhab[13][14] as his family was from a line of scholars of the Hanbali school of jurisprudence.[15]
Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab spent some time studying with Muslim scholars in Basra (in southern Iraq)[13][16] and it is reported that he traveled to the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina to perform Hajj and study with the scholars there.[17][18][19]
In Mecca, the Hanbali mufti, Ibn Humaydi, perceived Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab to be a poor student, and arrogant and defiant with his teachers, which upset his father. Consequently, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab did not complete his studies, but whether he was expelled or dropped out is unknown.[20]
In Medina, he studied under Mohammad Hayya Al-Sindhi, to whom he was introduced by an earlier tutor.[21] According to Voll, it was Muhammad Hayya who taught Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab to reject the popular veneration of saints and their tombs.[21] Nonetheless, almost all sources agree that his reformist ideas were formulated while living in Basra. He returned to 'Uyayna in 1740.
After his return home, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab began to attract followers, including the ruler of 'Uyayna, Uthman ibn Mu'ammar. With Ibn Mu'ammar's support, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab began to implement some of his ideas for reform. First, citing Islamic teachings forbidding grave worship, he persuaded Ibn Mu'ammar to level the grave of Zayd ibn al-Khattab, a companion of Muhammad, whose grave was revered by locals. Secondly, he ordered that all adulterors be stoned to death, a practice that had become uncommon in the area. Indeed, he personally organised the stoning of a woman who confessed that she had committed adultery.[22]
These actions gained the attention of Sulaiman ibn Muhammad ibn Ghurayr of the tribe of Bani Khalid, the chief of Al-Hasa and Qatif, who held substantial influence in Najd. Ibn Ghurayr threatened Ibn Mu'ammar that he would not allow him to collect a land tax for some properties that he owned in Al-Hasa if he did not kill Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab. Although Ibn Mu'ammar declined to do so, Ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab was still forced to leave
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So accordidng to Aqil, India founded in 1947 is ridiculous.
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Your contradicting yourself because you said anything east of the indus river is india
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To a bharti with INCREDIBLE INDIAN knowledge of history, most of their army consisted of people from the soil, such as ethnic Jatts.
Okay so far some Pakistani's say he conquered Sindh, some are saying he conquered Pakistan(because Sindh was part of Pakistan and Pakistan has been there since Gandhara's time). So he invaded and conquered your land. At least Sindhis should agree right???
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What does AIML have anything to do with partition or independence....
But that after he first defeated the people of the soil right???
India existed hence AIML existed. I'm just trying how do some people even argue India came in 1947 and Pakistan has been there since Gandhara's time.
India existed hence AIML existed. I'm just trying how do some people even argue India came in 1947 and Pakistan has been there since Gandhara's time.
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It's hard to explain all of this at once, but I suggest you look into ethnic groups of Pakistan and their history.
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Gandhara Civilization ended before Qasim invaded dear. Qasim invaded Sindh only
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They had a recruitment drive from collage campuses, ive heard.
Dude my point of view is Sindh was India and he invaded India. But I'm trying to understand history from Pakistan point of view.
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Omg... India was never united for a long time until the British rule came.
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