Which great power treats the best its muslim citizens?

[Placemat]

India is a great power and treats its muslims best. The others are just catching up.

 

[Ultima Thule]

India is a great power and treats its muslims best. The others are just catching up.

what lie you have @Placemat , Your country is worst for Muslim right @Placemat

 

[Placemat]

what lie you have @Placemat , Your country is worst for Muslim right @Placemat

Tell me one right that the muslims don't have here. Eg in Pak non muslim can't preach their religion . For Christian like muslim it's important to spread the word of Hesus. In Malaysia muslims can talk down about other religion but non muslims cannot. India just says that all are equal under law, but some people want special treatment.

 

[Yankee-stani]

If I could choose both I would choose USA and Russia both.

But to be honest Russian Muslims are Slavicized local Muslims. Whereas Muslims in America are from all over the world from Sri Lanka to Morocco, from Indonesia to Nigeria.

How would Russians tolerate if 2 million Nigerian Muslims moved into St. Petersburg? Now that's a real scenario to ponder on.

Because Chechens, Tajiks and Uzbeks aren't exactly "foreign" and world Muslim population isn't confined to former Soviet Bloc Muslim ethnicities either.

To be fair I dont think they would like if they were millions of Pakistani Muslims or Arabs tho I heard there is ethnic tension between Central Asians,Caucausians and Slavs but in general the Soviet mentality bind them together to be fair I kinda like Soviet Multiculturalism or what Russia aspires not trying to cuck their identity but being a lynchpin in Eurasia btw the Soviet Ruble had 15 languages and on Soviet TV montages when their anthem was shown it was basically a mosaic of the Soviet nation in a way I kinda wished Pakistani Multiculturalism should be the same a unified majority group that considers its ethnic minorities as its kin

@Desert Fox Unlike many Pakistanis who cheer the break up of the USSR I dont I really think it was tragic it broke up into pieces just lead to unstable republics in Eurasia and gave Yankee free reign in Eastern Europe, Caucausus, and Central Asia, I think the Soviets were put in a trap as Brezeskinki then Carter advisor said and Breznev was pure retard for that as for religious rights it improved a lot in the 60s and 70s but the invasion of Afghanistan was pure stupidity


@DejanSRB If Yugoslavia was existing still I would have voted since you guys basically were just Market Socialists under Tito, the folks who got in trouble were mainly ethnic nationalists for the most part

 

[Ultima Thule]

Tell me one right that the muslims don't have here. Eg in Pak non muslim can't preach their religion . For Christian like muslim it's important to spread the word of Hesus. In Malaysia muslims can talk down about other religion but non muslims cannot. India just says that all are equal under law, but some people want special treatment.

Yeah yeah what a fool you're , you're genocides Muslims in Kashmir and called yourself world BIGGEST PATHETIC DEMOCRACY AND SHINING FCUK INDIA, in Pakistan every one free to preach their religion according to Pakistani laws, and who told you that minorities can't preaches their religion, @Placemat
you're country/religion are believes in Lies and deceptions @Placemat
JAY TERRORIST HIND @Placemat

 

[Placemat]

Yeah yeah what a fool you're , you're genocides Muslims in Kashmir and called yourself world BIGGEST PATHETIC DEMOCRACY AND SHINING FCUK INDIA, in Pakistan every one free to preach their religion according to Pakistani laws, and who told you that minorities can't preaches their religion, @Placemat
you're country/religion are believes in Lies and deceptions @Placemat
JAY TERRORIST HIND @Placemat

Check your laws a hindu cannot ask muslim to revert back. Look no further than your passport where the prophet a Muslim sect is insulted. They are not allowed thi practise Islam because of a slightly different view.
There is no genocide in Kashmir much as your PM goes lying on international forum. It's ok. Leave it. Bye.

 

[tower9]

Russia and it's no competition

 

[Ultima Thule]

Check your laws a hindu cannot ask muslim to revert back. Look no further than your passport where the prophet a Muslim sect is insulted. They are not allowed thi practise Islam because of a slightly different view.
There is no genocide in Kashmir much as your PM goes lying on international forum. It's ok. Leave it. Bye.

What loser you're, why they want to revert, they accept Islam is better religion then Hinduism, why they want to revert, and every religion has own controversy and sects, Christians have their own sects as well as Jews, so you have also sect/version of Hinduism in India,so your problem with Islamic sects
Wow just wow world is not blind you killed more 100,000 Kashmiris in just 10 years and do think there no genocides in Kashmir what are you 9 million terrorist army doing in the valley, you locked IOK for almost 3 month called yourself innocent the worst human tragedy in history making in IOK , one think is for sure you can beat Hitler and Stalin for killing millions of innocent people @Placemat

 

[beijingwalker]

So far the majority of unbiased evidence shows that your country is prosecuting religious minorities in an attempt to suppress any separatist ideals which is simply not a pathway that has worked for the past 500 years. With social media and more ways to get information to people on the ground, it will only backfire.

Our country is doing everything to safeguard social stability and people's safety, we are fighting separatism and terrorisms, after a horrifying spate of attacks on monthly basis in many Chinese cities, including in Tianamnmen Square, where is the sacred site in the Chinese minds like Mecca in yours, the general population was vrey angry and at same time very worried about their own safety when going to public places and taking public transport, some start to think about taking the law in their own hands and seeking revenge.

The government asked people to keep a cool head and tell people only a small bunch of extremists committed those attacks and Uighur people by and large are patriotic Chinese citizens just like everyone else and we are one big family, the high spontaneous anti Uighur and anti Muslim sentiment was quickly suppressed by the govenment which advocated social stability, harmony and love between all Chinese ethnic groups.

China took some neccessary measures to restore Xinjiang's order like every government will do if a region in their countries was on the brink of total chaos, and China knows without social stability one can stop thinking of economic development.

The results of those policies now is plain to see, Xinjiang hasn't had one single attack, big or small, for 3 years in a row already, it becomes one of the safest place in China, it's economy grows at a double digit speed, the highest among all Chinese provinces, because of peace and stability, it's tourism is booming, tens of millions visit Xinjiang every year and now Xinjiang's tourist revenue accounts for a third of its total GDP.

Because of this fast neckbreaking growth and development, Xinjiang now has more than enough money to give every child 15 years free education from kindergarten to high school, free school meals , free boarding and school shuttle service. People in Xinjiang now can enjoy almost free medicare( up to 99% reinbursement of medical bills and medication), Xinjiang is the only place in China where people go see doctors and get treated first and pay afterwards. Poor families in Xinjiang enjoy free government earthquake proof housings (study shows in the past 5 years, not a single government earthquake proof house was damage during dozens of earthquakes).

I call Xinjiang a great success, and some of you want China to give up our policies in Xinjiang and put Xinjiang into a uncertainty future, do you really think we'll listen to you?

 

[OIO]

You cannot lock people up, indoctrinate them that their religious beliefs are invalid and that they will be treated persecuted if they follow them; then hand them a house, car and fireworks to go celebrate and be happy.

The problem with the Chinese members here is that are incapable of taking concern on an issue and advice from Pakistanis as genuine goodwill for China and Chinese people( and vice versa it applies for Pakistanis as well).

While western media does exaggerate issues related to China, it did not make a crow out of thin air. Most of us have and are still more than happy to defend China as our friend and ally regardless of most actions undertaken, and will continue to do so in general. But will like any “iron brothers” continue to raise our concerns on such issues until we get some satisfactory reply from your end. Unfortunately, for the most part the Chinese member response here has been reactionary, arrogant and downright bigoted hostility. Something our common foes are thoroughly enjoying.

So far the majority of unbiased evidence shows that your country is prosecuting religious minorities in an attempt to suppress any separatist ideals which is simply not a pathway that has worked for the past 500 years. With social media and more ways to get information to people on the ground, it will only backfire.

After the ideology of 'domecacy and freedom' is no more threat to China, religions are biggest problem, I don't think China will stop the feasible way because of the West media bashing.

 

[SQ8]

Our country is doing everything to safeguard social stability and people's safety, we are fighting separatism and terrorisms, after a horrifying spate of attacks on monthly basis in many Chinese cities, including in Tianamnmen Square, where is the sacred site in the Chinese minds like Mecca in yours, the general population was vrey angry and at same time very worried about their own safety when going to public places and taking public transport, some start to think about taking the law in their own hands and seeking revenge.

The government asked people to keep a cool head and only a small bunch of extremists committed those attacks and Uighur people by and large are patriotic Chinese citizens just like everyone else and we are one big family, the high spontaneous anti Uighur and anti Muslim sentiment was quickly suppressed by the govenment which advocated social stability, harmony and love between all Chinese ethnic groups.

China took some neccessary measures to restore Xinjiang's order like every government will do if a region in their countries was on the brink of total chaos, and China knows without social stability one can stop thinking of economic development.

The results of those policies now is plain to see, Xinjiang hasn't had one single attack, big or small, for 3 years in a row already, it becomes one of the safest place in China, it's economy grows at a double digit speed, the highest among all Chinese provinces, because of peace and stability, it's tourism is booming, tens of millions visit Xinjiang every year and now Xinjiang's tourist avenue accounts for a third of its total GDP.

Because of this fast neckbreaking growth and development, Xinjiang now has more than enough money to give every child 15 years free education from kindergarten to high school, free school meals , free boarding and school shuttle service. People in Xinjiang now can enjoy almost free medicare( up to 99% reinbursement of medical bills and medication), Xinjiang is the only place in China where people go see doctors and get treated first and pay afterwards. Poor families in Xinjiang enjoy free government earthquake proof housings (study shows in the past 5 years, not a single government earthquake proof house was damage during dozens of earthquakes).

I call Xinjiang a great success, and some of you want China to give up our policies in Xinjiang and put Xinjiang into a uncertainty future, do you really think we'll listen to you?

Thank you for the explanation but we never asked you to stop the fight. Rather understand the causes and take a different approach that doesn’t involve burning the entire forest to root out a square foot of fungus.

All of the achievements in Xinjiang aren’t worth the effort if they come with the side effects of greater extremism.

After the ideology of 'domecacy and freedom' is no more threat to China, religions are biggest problem, I don't think China will stop the feasible way because of the West media bashing.

Maybe that is Chinese ignorance in trying to solve the issue through brute force which will not be a lasting solution.
What is the harm of listening to friends for an alternative?

 

[beijingwalker]

Maybe that is Chinese ignorance in trying to solve the issue through brute force which will not be a lasting solution.
What is the harm of listening to friends for an alternative?

I read several Pakistani articles calling for learning from China in reining in terrorism, not the otherway around, but would you listen, probably not of course. Your country , your rule.

 

[OIO]

Thank you for the explanation but we never asked you to stop the fight. Rather understand the causes and take a different approach that doesn’t involve burning the entire forest to root out a square foot of fungus.

All of the achievements in Xinjiang aren’t worth the effort if they come with the side effects of greater extremism.


Maybe that is Chinese ignorance in trying to solve the issue through brute force which will not be a lasting solution.
What is the harm of listening to friends for an alternative?

Our success proof that never following the advice of the West. You advice happened to be the same with West.

 

[Numerous]

Hmm I think Russia or the US, it's a close one. Anyone who steps out of line in Russia will probably get Ko'd by the local russian installed strong man (like kadyrov) though so maybe America. That's only in terms of physical harm though.

It's probably better for a Muslim to live in russia than america if he wants to sustain his faith though. American Muslims are kinda iffy a lot of the time, too many liberal ideas spread amongst them & aimed at them.

China sucks hard on both physical harm and harm to religion though.

China views it’s Muslim citizens as integral and equal citizens of its society.

CIA propaganda aside, China has never had any major conflict with any Muslim nation (unlike Russia and US.)

Do you still think China are teaching uighurs sufi islam inside the camps?

 

[Dungeness]

The question should be which great power represents the Muslim world.