Where would the country be today if musharraf had told the usa "no"

[Raja420]

Had musharraf decided to fight against America and told them to fuvk off would the Americans wage war against a nuclear Pakistan? Or would they just sit back and put sanctions on Pakistan?
I wish musharraf had told no to America's war on terror.
So many innocent lives were gone and we were on the wrong side of history. If we had fought atleast we would've held our integrity in the Muslim world.

If general zia ul haq was in power I believe he would've went to war against America. I wish I lived in his time he was a True mujahideen.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Hindua ? Nice way to respect your Hindu minority. You seem 10 years old and not 31.



Does your reply match my post ?



And why shouldn't you attack Lal Masjid since you intention is to anyway die ?



1. Are you blaming Musharraf for setting the stage to counter regressive and oppressive criminals ? That implies you support TTP.

2. Groups like TTP, Al Qaeda and "Muslim" Brotherhood are the creations or encouragements of the Crusaders.

3. You are talking about centuries for things to settle in Pakistan. You don't realize that in less than eight years a few humans will land on Mars and by the mid-2030s there will be a research station on Mars and then will be mining in the Asteroid Belt which all will bring great social influence on Earth.



Illogical example.



If Pakistan had the same sanctions imposed on it for decades as were put on North Korea, Pakistan would have been like Afghanistan or even worse. North Korea is a society worth emulating for Pakistan or for India.



You still haven't given me the list of those "Islamic" scholars.



Wrong. Read post# 2.

I don't need to spoon feed you the Islamic scholars you little moron.

Go google it.

The entire Muslim world at that time was against the atheistic USSR in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

[jamahir]

The entire Muslim world at that time was against the atheistic USSR in the 1970's and 1980's.

Including him ?

Please clean up your head.

 

[PakFactor]

Mussraf had an excuse at least. He tried convincing Taliban to give up OBL. Plus, Pakistan was neither ready nor expecting to face a threat like US military might.

Even with Nukes, Pakistan had very limited to no means to retaliate back. Stealth bombers would have easily wipe out any strategic assets.

10 to 20 years down the road, PA or establishment as a whole has no excuse to say, we didn’t know or were not ready.

Problem is even after 20 years we've not developed capabilities to strike US mainland in retaliation.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Problem is even after 20 years we've not developed capabilities to strike US mainland in retaliation.

Neutrals are scared to get sanctioned. Half of their toys are of (old) American origin.

 

[Khan_21]

Get out of my thread Hindu. No one cares about your opinion.

There are Hindus who are PK citizens. Gtfo with your bigoted views.

 

[PakFactor]

Neutrals are scared to get sanctioned. Half of their toys are of (old) American origin.

True to maintain old relics that have no utility in what they will be facing down the road.
Say what you may about North Korea but at-least he'll drop his sack on the table and sadly a nation of 220M are made eunuch.

 

[Raja420]

There are Hindus who are PK citizens. Gtfo with your bigoted views.

I should've included Indian next to the Hindu. My mistake. Ofcourse the Hindus of Pakistan are safe and sound and their right to practice their religion freely will never be taken away from them. There is no compulsion in religion.

Even though in the Quran it says the pagan and jews hold the most animosity towards the believers I will have to make an exception for our Pakistani Hindu brethren. I won't include them in my hate circle and I hate those who hate on me and my people and my God.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Including him ?

Please clean up your head.

You moron, just one Afghani versus the entire Muslim world of Scholars?

You are a moron.

 

[Abid123]

True to maintain old relics that have no utility in what they will be facing down the road.
Say what you may about North Korea but at-least he'll drop his sack on the table and sadly a nation of 220M are made eunuch.

North Korea is ruled by a brave man. Pakistan on the other hand is ruled by a bunch of puss*es.... Truth hurts....

 

[MultaniGuy]

North Korea is ruled by a brave man. Pakistan on the other hand is ruled by a bunch of puss*es.... Truth hurts....

And that is why North Korea is a shitty country.

North Korea is comparable to Somalia or Afghanistan.

South Korea is a far better country than North Korea.

 

[Menace2Society]

And that is why North Korea is a shitty country.

North Korea is comparable to Somalia or Afghanistan.

South Korea is a far better country than North Korea.

North Korea is based. It is protecting Korean masculinity otherwise every Korean man would be wearing make up right now and watching their women get pumped by white men. Unfortunately for them that's the lengths they must go to protect themselves.

 

[MultaniGuy]

North Korea is based. It is protecting Korean masculinity otherwise every Korean man would be wearing make up right now and watching their women get pumped by white men. Unfortunately for them that's the lengths they must go to protect themselves.

Okay and you can have your country like Somalia or Afghanistan then.

South Korea and Japan get certain benefits by being allies of USA.

I am not saying we should be allies with the West. I too am Anti-West.

But just be neutral. Neither Pro or anti-west.

 

[Menace2Society]

Okay and you can have your country like Somalia or Afghanistan then.

South Korea and Japan get certain benefits by being allies of USA.

I am not saying we should be allies with the West. I too am Anti-West.

But just be neutral. Neither Pro or anti-west.

My argument in this thread was to back US in WOT for Pakistan's interest and destroy anti Pakistani elements in Afghanistan well in advance of TTP's emergence. I am not advocating for Pakistan to reject the west, they don't need to.

I am just saying there are different rules for different countries. The white nations hold east asians in particular contempt that's why Japan was nuked, Vietnam invaded, China drugged by opium, Thailand made a heaven for white pedophiles and their sex tourists. I have seen old white men walking in public holding hands with 13 year old Thai girls.

Japanese and Korean men have been demasculinized. I know people who have lived and worked in South Korea. White men who travel there or work there are 1st choice for their women whilst most of their men are k pop, make up wearing, feminine degenerates. They have a tough fight on their hands and I don't blame North Korea for doing what it is needed to protect their masculine dominance.

 

[Abid123]

And that is why North Korea is a shitty country.

North Korea is comparable to Somalia or Afghanistan.

South Korea is a far better country than North Korea.

Honestly where would Pakistan be if we were under sanctions like North Korea? South Korea is far better for sure, but there are things Pakistan could learn from North Korea.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Hindua ? Nice way to respect your Hindu minority. You seem 10 years old and not 31.



Does your reply match my post ?



And why shouldn't you attack Lal Masjid since you intention is to anyway die ?



1. Are you blaming Musharraf for setting the stage to counter regressive and oppressive criminals ? That implies you support TTP.

2. Groups like TTP, Al Qaeda and "Muslim" Brotherhood are the creations or encouragements of the Crusaders.

3. You are talking about centuries for things to settle in Pakistan. You don't realize that in less than eight years a few humans will land on Mars and by the mid-2030s there will be a research station on Mars and then will be mining in the Asteroid Belt which all will bring great social influence on Earth.



Illogical example.



If Pakistan had the same sanctions imposed on it for decades as were put on North Korea, Pakistan would have been like Afghanistan or even worse. North Korea is a society worth emulating for Pakistan or for India.



You still haven't given me the list of those "Islamic" scholars.



Wrong. Read post# 2.

I don't have to spoon-feed you.

Go Google the Islamic scholars in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Egypt who said the Soviet-Afghanistan war was a legitimate jihad against the atheistic Soviet Union.

You can laugh all you want @jamahir.

You certainly are a moron, When the Soviet Union was officially atheistic.