When Pakistani Air force pilots not only breaks the defense of US Aircraft carrier but also US proud

[Parmanu]

I think the a poster has a point. But great flying by PAF.

Btw, you would what to time the underwater route to sink a US Carrrier. A sub or even 2 subs. It would be stupid to play the carrier's game with CVNs. Lol. Only the F-22 in masses and in different directions can achieve this. Low flying or now.

In my opinion, go underwater and sneak In.

*you would want to take *

 

[Jaga Badmash]

I think the a poster has a point. But great flying by PAF.

Btw, you would what to time the underwater route to sink a US Carrrier. A sub or even 2 subs. It would be stupid to play the carrier's game with CVNs. Lol. Only the F-22 in masses and in different directions can achieve this. Low flying or now.

In my opinion, go underwater and sneak In.

*you would want to take *

Fire CM-400AKG or C-802 from different directions from a safe distance can do the job.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

You are the vomiting, not me kitty.
Its better to stay out of an issue if you have ZERO understanding about it.
Tip from my side.



@waz @Irfan Baloch @HRK
we got a ''pilot'' here.

must be legit as Bharti flying saucers that decimated Afghan forces in the war of Pani Put

 

[Parmanu]

Fire CM-400AKG or C-802 from different directions from a safe distance can do the job.

IF it can reach, yes. It would punch a few holes in the carrier. Still wont sink it. Now, in reality, air being patroled by f18s and growlers, constant terrain connectivity with satellites, a missile can only be launched from land that too a conceptually perfectly working hoarde of a dozen hypergliders which will target not only the carrier but the defence shield of the destroyers etc.

Thats is why they have air patrols from the carrier's wing. To avoid such an air launched missile.

Remains the underwater route to sink a US CVN. Mind you same doesnt appreciated to the indian or chinese carrier s. They are pretty much sinkable with such missiles.

 

[zebra7]

Watch your language. Indian Sea Harriers can't mock sink an Island, let alone a ship, which is much smaller . Tossing dumb bombs doesn't mock sink shiit. There was a reason why your Naval Command was dying to get the Mig-29 SM's. At this point, the Harriers are good to scare the Nepalese or the Sri Lankans......bull shiit everyone but the big-d. He knows the real deal.

And no carrier is "handicapped", you don't even know the layers of defense each carrier has. So when you can correctly identify how a carrier is protected, you come back and let me know. Till then, no need to involve me in discussions. The last thing I want on here is to waste time and educate 18 year old children!!



And your name is....Commander John Wiley? Keep your paranoid suspicious based stories to yourself. If you are stating an "actual event", point me to declassification briefing. Otherwise, write "my personal opinion is" before the sentences like the one above!! Man, you people from India get jealous like girls when it comes to Pakistan. Its crazy!!

Are you a Pakistani, disguised as American ??

Is this the way to discuss in an open forum ??

 

[Jaga Badmash]

IF it can reach, yes. It would punch a few holes in the carrier. Still wont sink it. Now, in reality, air being patroled by f18s and growlers, constant terrain connectivity with satellites, a missile can only be launched from land that too a conceptually perfectly working hoarde of a dozen hypergliders which will target not only the carrier but the defence shield of the destroyers etc.

Thats is why they have air patrols from the carrier's wing. To avoid such an air launched missile.

Remains the underwater route to sink a US CVN. Mind you same doesnt appreciated to the indian or chinese carrier s. They are pretty much sinkable with such missiles.

There is no point to discuss some serious stuff with Al Bharti troll since you are here in denial mode of any thing positive from Pakistan.

 

[zebra7]

US wanted someone to perform that dare devil stunt, they didnt wanted to risk it on there pilots. Futhermore then wanted to see to what extent others can plan, kind of out of box of thinking test. This excersie helped them to collect the needful data which would have allowed them to configure there system further. Virtually they might have tested there system against the data recorded to validated there security is indeed working in such situation. On the otherhand the machos who pulled up this feat were indeed proud of there achievements, which they should be because they performed very well calculated risky maneuver. But this doesnt mean it was defeat of US security system in real terms. This kind of games are played by biggies all the time to test there security systems and capabilities of opponents.

Kudos to bravehearts, this would surely boost there morale and would further help them to build upon there tactics.

A little change, the U.S wanted to access all the posibilities of the possible consequences, so that they could get their database updated, which could create the simulated war game as the best possible close to the real life scenario. I understand what you are trying to say.

 

[Parmanu]

There is no point to discuss some serious stuff with Al Bharti troll since you are here in denial mode of any thing positive from Pakistan.

Ok wa. If you did not realise, I said that your missiles will sink the al Bharti carrier. Did you read that part? Lol.. I am here as me. Ignore my flags. Salaam walekum.

Try thinking about all my posts.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I think similar technique was used by 2 russian su 24s to buzz an american destroyer in black sea recently un detected

NO

they didn't conceal their fly past. they made sure that they were seen and it was meant as a message to stay away from Russian waters.

 

[Viper0011.]

Oh Boy! Someone did dropped you on your head as a baby. No one could be that bereft of logic (Islands could be sunk! LOL), unless he has some kind of biological deficiency.

It is not my problem that you do not understand what "rules of engagement" mean in an exercise. In order to give carriers experience of defending against bombing runs, their long distance interception is switched off and carrier's escort instructed not to intercept simulated enemy bogey.

And Indian Jaguars did mock sunk USN carrier in an exercise. http://archive.indianexpress.com/ne...-f18s-return-the-favour-to-ins-viraat/215163/

You genius, "mock sunk" means shiit to an aircraft carrier. What we are discussing is the approach!! A Mirage or a little Jaggy from the IAF, can't do much to an AC. And remember the CIWS, when all else fails, those babies are always there to take out over a dozen incoming missiles!! What's being discussed is the tactics by which someone was able to beat the external layers of carrier defense. These "mocked" exercises happen probably once a month with some air-force or navy. When the US commanders come out praising someone, that's because that party did actually accomplish something that wasn't expected. That was the case here in this thread.

Now go hug your mama and take that Indian herbal rear soothing tonic. You clearly need it!

 

[Mrc]

Fire CM-400AKG or C-802 from different directions from a safe distance can do the job.

Hitting the deck and firing c 802 would most likely do the.job. can be fired in volleys from different directions .. cm 400 akg from a high flying aircraft should keep.defenders busy...
Combination attack is quiet likely to succeed in my view

 

[HAIDER]

Hi,

It does not work against the aesa radar.

I doubt it Sir jiii......AESA also has certain limitations too.

Hitting the deck and firing c 802 would most likely do the.job. can be fired in volleys from different directions .. cm 400 akg from a high flying aircraft should keep.defenders busy...
Combination attack is quiet likely to succeed in my view

Sinking the AC is kinda impossible , because it travel in battle group formation. But, enemy ultimate objective is hit the deck or bridge. If it hit any of them job is done. AC floating without eyes.

 

[Mrc]

I doubt it Sir jiii......AESA also has certain limitations too.


Sinking the AC is kinda impossible , because it travel in battle group formation. But, enemy ultimate objective is hit the deck or bridge. If it hit any of them job is done. AC floating without eyes.

Striking with a subsonic cm is not going to sink a carier... but damaging flight deck will result it being out of action for a while ...may be out of it for duration of hostilities

 

[HAIDER]

Striking with a subsonic cm is not going to sink a carier... but damaging flight deck will result it being out of action for a while ...may be out of it for duration of hostilities

But, since VTOL introduced, AC functionality will be hard to kill.

 

[Mrc]

But, since VTOL introduced, AC functionality will be heard to kill.

I still think it will be severely restricted ...
U wont walk into battle with damaged deck unless you are really desperate...