When did shorts get so commonplace among Indian girls?

[JonAsad]

And guess who wrote Kamasutra, made those temples of sex....

Indians did not had the following things before the Islam came like
purdah system
divorce
sex as taboo topic

though that does not mean that women were running naked all around the place

Indian society of 19th century was quite influnced by the Islamic culture. Duppatta was always there in the form of Pallu in traditional indian dress.

we Islamic people do not produce babies through machines or some thing- we do have sex- its more like we want the private affair between husband and wife to remain private- not a topic to write books on-


Whats Indians had before Islam came is well known- Divorce was not common because of Sati- women was meant to die along their husbands- so you can pretty much imagine what would happen to a divorced women- pardah system and pallu are more or less the same thing and it comes under Haya- and sex is not a taboo topic- we do not like to do it in open- brag about it in open- or write about it-

Lets just drop the SEX- Kamasutra TOPIC all together- its not relevant here-

 

[Pride]

For the sati part it is no were mentioned in our books

Even I didn't said that.. just said a malpractice..

 

[divya]

kamasutra only reflects the hypocritical nature of your monks, the temple of **** only shows the epic hypocricy of your holy men,

You will never understand it because for you sex is something which is a sin where as god himself made it the source of all creation....
Sex was always seen as a spiritual topic within India unlike something which is sin to god
if it was such a sin why did god himself created it for the evolution of the whole world.
Those temples were to educate people and to give them sex education.

but alas hard to understand for people who start having erotic feelings with just a view of women and have a history of raping women in all their conquests and think of her as nothing more than a war booty.

the absence of divorse concept didnt reflect the slavery of women???? what are you talking about, what if the husband tortures her wife and still wife cant 'divorse' him

There are ample amount of cases where the women left the husband, for one reason or the other or the husband left the women but once married they had to be devoted to one another. Thats why in traditional hinduism marrige is considered to be one of the most important decisons of life and should only be done after thorough understanding. There are certain oaths which every man and women have to take while getting married still today....
it was considered to talk openly abt sex in india before, the only sex that happened was post marital thing

pardah was never practiced by hindu women, it was the symbol of pride for muslim women

they definitely look proud

 

[Sayonara]

If you want to know the truth yes Women's liberaliztion was in our culture before invaders came to India (There were plenty of problems were there in society related to women but not as huge as it became later on)... There are plenty of women who r in our scriptures has liberty and even rule the kingdome.. Things started worsening afterwards (why to hide from history?)

hindu women in india were considered as slaves, a source for bad luck, after their husbands death either sati was done, or they were doomed for eternity, even movies in your vollywood have shown this thing, women were burdened with jewelery so that they could run, their were made to wear white cloths so that she cant remain happy ever, she could divorse as divya pointed out, so there was no escape from it, their hair were cut and they led a miserable life till death

 

[SQ8]

Its called an invasion of culture...
The western culture.. that invaded.. and has now taken over the girls of desiland..
Where they were known for their grace ..and secrecy.. Now there is only animalistic vulgarity.

 

[divya]

we Islamic people do not produce babies through machines or some thing- we do have sex- its more like we want the private affair between husband and wife to remain private- not a topic to write books on-

Sex education is equally important... Today everyone has access to the relevent information but not in those days. Sex forms one of the most important part of the married life and needs equally to be known for men and women. A men cannot understand women sexual feelings out of nowhere neither can women till they have access to some resource for the same.

Whats Indians had before Islam came is well known- Divorce was not common because of Sati- women was meant to die along their husbands- so you can pretty much imagine what would happen to a divorced women- pardah system and pallu are more or less the same thing and it comes under Haya- and sex is not a taboo topic- we do not like to do it in open- brag about it in open- or write about it-

Lets just drop the SEX- Kamasutra TOPIC all together- its not relevant here-

Sati was introduced at a very later stage as i told previously and was never there in the traditional hinduism. Sati was just a word based on the legend of a story where a women brought back her husband from the dead. It was later manipulated where in it was upto women to actually go for it. Further in the later stages some illetrate men started forcing women

Its like saying being a terrorist and bombing oneself in public place is part and parcel of islam....

 

[divya]

hindu women in india were considered as slaves, a source for bad luck, after their husbands death either sati was done, or they were doomed for eternity, even movies in your vollywood have shown this thing, women were burdened with jewelery so that they could run, their were made to wear white cloths so that she cant remain happy ever, she could divorse as divya pointed out, so there was no escape from it, their hair were cut and they led a miserable life till death

That was a practise which was intoduced in after 10th century in and around Banaras in UP. can you provide me links from the vedas or any of the books which actually make this the part of hinduism?

I cant help if your knowledge base is based on bollywood flicks.

 

[justanobserver]

Its called an invasion of culture...
The western culture.. that invaded.. and has now taken over the girls of desiland..
Where they were known for their grace ..and secrecy.. Now there is only animalistic vulgarity.

Oh please !

India was always liberal before the Victorian and Islamic phases. We're just going back to Kamasutra times and reclaiming our civilizational heritage

Sex was never a taboo subject

 

[Pride]

hindu women in india were considered as slaves, a source for bad luck, after their husbands death either sati was done, or they were doomed for eternity, even movies in your vollywood have shown this thing, women were burdened with jewelery so that they could run, their were made to wear white cloths so that she cant remain happy ever, she could divorse as divya pointed out, so there was no escape from it, their hair were cut and they led a miserable life till death

Too much of Bollywood harms.... Go ahead and bring some religious contexts which says that.. and if possible bring such cases before 700 AD... And for a sake of discussion, if i say it existed.. didn't we killed those malpractices long back.. means changed the things to suit womens.. why dint it happening in ur country?

 

[Pride]

Its called an invasion of culture...
The western culture.. that invaded.. and has now taken over the girls of desiland..
Where they were known for their grace ..and secrecy.. Now there is only animalistic vulgarity.

In India, there never was a cultural invasion.. we adapted good things from other cultures and we were imposed some... Here no imposition only a choice of adaption..

While I believe that we need to preserve our cultures along with such effects..we dont need an enforcing body (Read Tablighi jamaat, Shiv Sena and Shri ram sene etc, French govt ) for the same

 

[KS]

liberalism should be within the limits of deceny. it does not mean that men should start going to office in women undergarments...........

Agreed. Too much aping of Western Culture is not good after all our very own culture is second to none.

But as I said if the Gals are comfy and can carry themselves with elan/deceny then I have no problem in it.

 

[divya]

if the muslims raped the hindu women, then why you people look dravadians??, i think fair looking north indians are a product of rape arent they lol

Because all of them were converted to Islam... and guess where they all migrated to?

your temples have also depected human animal sex, a man is penetrating on a donkey and a horse, how is this thing called a spiritual, no the nude statues and **** depiction had nothing to do with spiritualism, only ideas of perverted minds

Read Sambhog se samadhi tak or from sex to spirtiuality... you will understand the context.

As i said people who get erotic feelings just by looking at the face of women cannot understand it...

muslims also think of divorse as a sin and happens in extreme cases, but muslims considered women as equal

Oh really equal rights BIG JOKE

what are property rights of women in islam?
what are the witness rights of women in islam?
what happens if the rape happens in Islam?

thats why they were given options for divorse, in an emergency situation, there is always possibility for emerency exit, but your hindu society didnt give this right to woman to decide her own fate, then you had to be forced to give woman her rihts after islam and then colonial era..

Polygamy was never saner topic to start with at the first place. as i said women always had an option for leaving the husband and no husband could force a women to stay back with him. At the same time once married you are married forever. Nothing like aaj iske sath kal uske sath....

 

[Sayonara]

In India, there never was a cultural invasion.. we adapted good things from other cultures and we were imposed some... Here no imposition only a choice of adaption..

While I believe that we need to preserve our cultures along with such effects..we dont need an enforcing body (Read Tablighi jamaat, Shiv Sena and Shri ram sene etc, French govt ) for the same

let us discuss good things which we gave it you, start with eating on a plate from eating on leaves

 

[divya]

u fool, muslims werent even in india before 1000 ad, islam was only limited to sindh, sati were all hindu traditions, has nothing to do with islam, any slightly sane guy would agree to that, dont throw all your hindu garbages to islam, admit the fact which is as clear as a crystal

cut the crap...
as he asked provide with the vedic or source from the other hindu manuscripts which gives that sati was mandatory practise for women...

By the way sindh was a hindu dominated area back then

 

[divya]

let us discuss good things which we gave it you, start with eating on a plate from eating on leaves

and also let me tell you what we told you that women are not just war booty and objects of sex.....