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@The Eagle hi. I want to talk to Mr @Bilal9. Can you please arrange a private chat.
Thank you for that advance.
I don't know why I am included in this? I don't need a molvi, pir, sheikh etc. Simple logicALLAH SWT has commanded in the Quran to give wives their due share of inheritance left by their deceased husbands.
So what if her husband goes missing and never returns for years? And if such issue arises it obviously gonna open a Pandora box of multiple legal questions including her or share of any other heirs in the lost husband's property.
Now can someone bypass the direct command of Allah Swt hiding behind qiyas and sanctity of saints to technically deprive/disqualify a wife from her share in inheritance by imposing a waiting period of 90-120 years while the wife is also entitled to take divorce any time even if her husband were to be with her ?
Would that person/ group be charged with conspiring to deprive/usurp the legal fiscal right of a lady besides trying to subvert the Scriptures like those Pharisees and saducees of Israelites or any other acts of human rights transgressions like habeas corpus etc if there act/s actually get materilsed ?
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ALLAH SWT has commanded in the Quran to give wives their due share of inheritance left by their deceased husbands.
So what if her husband goes missing and never returns for years?
Now can someone bypass the direct command of Allah Swt hiding behind qiyas and sanctity of saints to technically deprive/disqualify a wife from her share in inheritance by imposing a waiting period of 90-120 years while the wife is also entitled to take divorce any time even if her husband were to be with her ?
Would that person/ group be charged with conspiring to deprive/usurp the legal fiscal right of a lady besides trying to subvert the Scriptures like those Pharisees and saducees of Israelites or any other acts of human rights transgressions like habeas corpus etc if there act/s actually get materilsed ?
Aur bai no adult one can go missing that easily in today's world of watsapp and social media
Plus how many go missing?
In the olden days ? Can she be deprived of her lawful inheritance in the guise of Adab of firqah/saints when Quran clearly directs otherwise?
For them is what they did and for us is what we do and will do.
What I have heard is something on the lines of max 4 months only. Honestly, I am reading this 90 / 120 years wait for the first time.
Ahnaf came up with this idea but then abandoned it in favour of the Maliki one. But the my firqah my marzi segment likes to throw both the coinage and abandonment of it upon others as some sort of benign favour and not lunacy -------.
ALLAH SWT has commanded in the Quran to give wives their due share of inheritance left by their deceased husbands.
So what if her husband goes missing and never returns for years? And if such issue arises it obviously gonna open a Pandora box of multiple legal questions including her or share of any other heirs in the lost husband's property.
Now can someone bypass the direct command of Allah Swt hiding behind qiyas and sanctity of saints to technically deprive/disqualify a wife from her share in inheritance by imposing a waiting period of 90-120 years while the wife is also entitled to take divorce any time even if her husband were to be with her ?
Would that person/ group be charged with conspiring to deprive/usurp the legal fiscal right of a lady besides trying to subvert the Scriptures like those Pharisees and saducees of Israelites or any other acts of human rights transgressions like habeas corpus etc if there act/s actually get materilsed ?
@Verve @I.R.A @Trango Towers @fitpositve
It’s somewhere in the middle - Sethi is connected but as of late his connections aren’t in power so the rumor mill has lost its accuracy.
Wow, eye-opening. The usual rhetoric on the forum alluded to more of a Dominance of IK for years to come. One key thing is IK there and Modi here leaves no options for normalization, but a Sharif with the backing of the establishment might be a bit different. How are Shahbaz Sharif's relations with GHQ.It’s somewhere in the middle - Sethi is connected but as of late his connections aren’t in power so the rumor mill has lost its accuracy.
Based on Grinding chaff from his mill and my own my suspicions are that the head honchos in the establishment may be rethinking IK but are wary of who they bring back from the usual lot. There us a -1 solution being thought up with Shehbaz Sharif while sidelining Nawaz’s bloodline.
However, the popular government sethi talks about is related to Nawaz and that is not acceptable to the establishment unless certain guarantees are provided.
We may see some sort of shuffling attempt next year and a popular coalition emerging with a -1 Imran Khan solution in the sense that he gets relegated to figurehead(which he should have been anyway).
The bigger concern is the apathy that is now emerging within the educated middle class who are either hyper focused on exodus from Pakistan or in open rebellion against this government and the establishment - this was the primary supporter of PTI in the urban environment so having lost them it is likely not going to remain in power for long unless it rebrands by some miracle.
The rhetoric on the forum and IK's support base online can be very misleading. Anyway, I agree with SQ8's view. Sethi is right about issues between the establishment and IK, but the alternatives are not straight forward. The establishment might not be able to stomach IK much longer, but Nawaz is still persona non grata for them. So even if -1 becomes a serious agenda, the way forward is complicated. PTI without IK would basically be a husk of its former self and would probably become another Q league of establishment cronies. PPP cannot govern alone and can't govern for long, their numbers don't add up. A central government can only really exist in one of three states: 1) PMLN government, 2) PTI + current allies majority, 3) a monstrous mix of ex-PTI or minus IK PTI + PPP + Q league + whoever else. Option one is a bitter pill for the establishment, option two has become very problematic, and option three is an extremely weak and temporary one.Wow, eye-opening. The usual rhetoric on the forum alluded to more of a Dominance of IK for years to come. One key thing is IK there and Modi here leaves no options for normalization, but a Sharif with the backing of the establishment might be a bit different. How are Shahbaz Sharif's relations with GHQ.
Not really - if you haven’t observed the rhetoric changed due to the government policies being unpopular( due to being public) and essentially providing the target for actions that were bound to happen. Pakistan is bound to fail financially or put in drastic measures, it is bound to bend to extremists or have another mini-civil war to wipe them all out.. but whichever party is in power will either have to put these harsh measures into affect or delay them long enough to make money and pass it on. That is what PML(N) and PPP do with their smart politics but PTI is inept at this game. At the same time the other brokers (establishment and judiciary) in the room cannot lose their faces or their roles in everything where corruption has occurred get exposed.Wow, eye-opening. The usual rhetoric on the forum alluded to more of a Dominance of IK for years to come. One key thing is IK there and Modi here leaves no options for normalization, but a Sharif with the backing of the establishment might be a bit different. How are Shahbaz Sharif's relations with GHQ.