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@HRK @Signalian

Bro, Indonesia have three research nuclear reactor with one of them have 30 MW capacity. Do you think this research reactor is enough if we some how decide to make a nuclear bom ?

Our nuclear agency (BATAN) is also currently designing new research reactor with 50 MW capacity.

I have not done much research on Indonesian reactors but if they are under IAEA then I am pretty sure they wont allow for deep burning/longer duration for uranium and heavier isotopes.

To translate a nuclear reactor uses graphite-clad ceramic uranium fuel pebbles, about 10 kg of plutonium is required to produce a proper fission based nuclear device (although smaller ones could be made, like the case of Pakistan where tactical nukes are much much smaller). Weapons grade plutonium is made in special reactors or through specialized process.

Under ideal condition with lots of ifs and buts it will take years to have that much plutonium from these reactors.

If Indonesian reactors fall under IAEA they will never allow for enrichment beyond a certain point.

For 92U235 based fission device you need to develop enrichment expertise by hook/crook (the way our people did) and keep it hidden from rest of the world. case in point Iraq/libya/Iran.
 
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I have not done much research on Indonesian reactors but if they are under IAEA then I am pretty sure they wont allow for deep burning/longer duration for uranium and heavier isotopes.

To translate a nuclear reactor uses graphite-clad ceramic uranium fuel pebbles, about 10 kg of plutonium is required to produce a proper fission based nuclear device (although smaller ones could be made, like the case of Pakistan where tactical nukes are much much smaller). Weapons grade plutonium is made in special reactors or through specialized process.

Under ideal condition with lots of ifs and buts it will take years to have that much plutonium from these reactors.

If Indonesian reactors fall under IAEA they will never allow for enrichment beyond a certain point.

For 92U235 based fission device you need to develop enrichment expertise by hook/crook (the way our people did) and keep it hidden from rest of the world. case in point Iraq/libya/Iran.


Thank You bro for the explanation, so I guess there will be CCTV in our reactor facility that will directly link to IAEA office, particularly the enrichment facility. As for the main point, I think you are agree that the 30 Megawatt research reactor is able to make a nuclear bomb if the researcher have the sufficient knowledge to do that, right ??

So, as nuclear weapon states, I bet you guys dont let IAEA to access your nuclear facility.
 
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so I guess there will be CCTV in our reactor facility that will directly link to IAEA office, particularly the enrichment facility.

Not so crude, it all based upon calculation and IAEA spies/employees/observers in these reactors.

How raw material (the uranium pebbles are obtained) is procured I don't think Indonesia has it own enrichment facilities (specialized facilities where raw uranium is process and higher end uranium is obtained) so it must be imported. if it is imported they know the exact specifications how much is which isotope and for how long it will be used.

I don't think a research reactor can produce weapons grade Plutonium. Lower grade yes but weapons grade is a huge challenge.

Everything is recorded, any discrepancy IAEA raises alarm.

I think you are agree that the 30 Megawatt research reactor is able to make a nuclear bomb if the researcher have the sufficient knowledge to do that, right ??

Simple answer no, as long as the reactor is under IAEA nothing could be done. A country can follow Pakistan's example first develop knowledge base a wide one, train young one in Nuclear Physics. We have or had three types of hiring the brilliant ones right out of college ( I was one of those who was offered) my teacher himself was brilliant physicist, two student apply for a specialized nuclear physics graduation course in IAEA controlled reactors, three send the brilliant ones from the graduation program to international research facilities. They bring back more expertise.

Once a country has sufficient Human Capital then it starts a Nuclear program which is not on the radar (I am writing it causally but the way we did it, it is a PhD course worth of expertise/subterfuge and sacrifices). One a country develop uranium enrichment expertise to weapons grade then cold tests, a suitable casing/triggers and finally "The Test"

In tandem a country must develop suitable delivery platforms, a.k.a. missiles and lots and lots of them.

It is a monumental task, very few Islamic countries are up to the challenge it has many many dimensions. Its not just about the capability its a huge undertaking.

We have both type of facilities those where we allow IAEA and those where we don't allow IAEA.
Besides now we are a certified Nuclear power, whether we get included in the exclusive club or not we are what we have made ourselves.;)

At the end of the day its a deterrent not a weapon meant to be used.
 
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Not so crude, it all based upon calculation and IAEA spies/employees/observers in these reactors.

How raw material (the uranium pebbles are obtained) is procured I don't think Indonesia has it own enrichment facilities (specialized facilities where raw uranium is process and higher end uranium is obtained) so it must be imported. if it is imported they know the exact specifications how much is which isotope and for how long it will be used.

I don't think a research reactor can produce weapons grade Plutonium. Lower grade yes but weapons grade is a huge challenge.

Everything is recorded, any discrepancy IAEA raises alarm.



Simple answer no, as long as the reactor is under IAEA nothing could be done. A country can follow Pakistan's example first develop knowledge base a wide one, train young one in Nuclear Physics. We have or had three types of hiring the brilliant ones right out of college ( I was one of those who was offered) my teacher himself was brilliant physicist, two student apply for a specialized nuclear physics graduation course in IAEA controlled reactors, three send the brilliant ones from the graduation program to international research facilities. They bring back more expertise.

Once a country has sufficient Human Capital then it starts a Nuclear program which is not on the radar (I am writing it causally but the way we did it, it is a PhD course worth of expertise/subterfuge and sacrifices). One a country develop uranium enrichment expertise to weapons grade then cold tests, a suitable casing/triggers and finally "The Test"

In tandem a country must develop suitable delivery platforms, a.k.a. missiles and lots and lots of them.

It is a monumental task, very few Islamic countries are up to the challenge it has many many dimensions. Its not just about the capability its a huge undertaking.

We have both type of facilities those where we allow IAEA and those where we don't allow IAEA.
Besides now we are a certified Nuclear power, whether we get included in the exclusive club or not we are what we have made ourselves.;)

At the end of the day its a deterrent not a weapon meant to be used.

Well, Batan (Indonesia Nuclear Agency) doesnt import nuclear fuel anymore and they have made it by themselves. I believe they have ability to enrich uranium as Indonesia and Australia is the most advanced nations in South East Asia region in term of nuclear. We have started nuclear research since 1954 by the way and has nuclear reactor since 1960's.

I believe if we are still under Soekarno, Indonesia will be able to make one as Soekarno really seeks to develop nuclear weapon and has great relation with both Russia and China. Soeharto on the other hand focus on the economy and let go ambition to have nuclear bomb and it include less intention with rocket development.
 
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ya kya drama chal raha hai Shehla madam ke saath ?

@jamahir

I came to know of the situation two days ago.

Below from your first article sums it up :
Ifra Jan, a columnist and activist tweeted that, “Expect the BJP supporters to lap up to this wife-beater. Double whammy for them. Ek to beats up his family, and second dishes out anti National conspiracy theories. What else do they need?!”


This situation is like that of the young woman activist from Karnataka, Amulya Leona, whose father washed his hands off her after her controversy when on a stage in Bangalore she said "Zindabad" for all South Asian countries, including Pakistan.
 
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This situation is like that of the young woman activist from Karnataka, Amulya Leona, whose father washed his hands off her after her controversy when on a stage in Bangalore she said "Zindabad" for all South Asian countries, including Pakistan.
After 110 Days in Jail for Saying 'Pakistan Zindabad,' 19-Year-Old Activist Gets 'Default Bail'

the exuberance of youth.
 
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After 110 Days in Jail for Saying 'Pakistan Zindabad,' 19-Year-Old Activist Gets 'Default Bail'

the exuberance of youth.

Yes, she should have been more careful in her choice of words. Swara Bhasker went on a trip to Pakistan and didn't create any controversy AFAIK. However, the Kannada film actress Ramya, who is a Congress youth leader ( I think ) also went on a trip to Pakistan and on her return did create a flutter when she said that not all Pakistanis are bad.

I hope Amulya has found a place to stay because her parents' house, because of her cowardly father, will be an uncomfortable choice.
 
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Yes, she should have been more careful in her choice of words. Swara Bhasker went on a trip to Pakistan and didn't create any controversy AFAIK. However, the Kannada film actress Ramya, who is a Congress youth leader ( I think ) also went on a trip to Pakistan and on her return did create a flutter when she said that not all Pakistanis are bad.

I hope Amulya has found a place to stay because her parents' house, because of her cowardly father, will be an uncomfortable choice.
chaltey rehtey hain logon ki life mein dramey bc.
 
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