Whatever

[I.R.A]

No And WTF this for @I.R.A

Just to answer your observation that Quran doesn't have answers for everything.

In Quran it is said that pomegranate and olive are similar yet different 6:99 (chapter 6 verse 99). This was 1441 years ago. Today you can read upon their benefits and see for yourself. It is only how you approach Quran for answers.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Just to answer your observation that Quran doesn't have answers for everything.

In Quran it is said that pomegranate and olive are similar yet different 6:99 (chapter 6 verse 99). This was 1441 years ago. Today you can read upon their benefits and see for yourself. It is only how you approach Quran for answers.

Don't start here again, and first tell me how do we get a whole picture/life of our Prophet PBUH @I.R.A this is my last question about the subject @I.R.A

 

[I.R.A]

Don't start here again, and first tell me how do we get a whole picture/life of our Prophet PBUH @I.R.A this is my last question about the subject @I.R.A

Read Quran (the way it should be read) and you will know.

 

[The Accountant]

Read Quran (the way it should be read) and you will know.

I listen to quran with meanings almost daily. Where it covered alot of things but not all.

If quran had been enough without sunnah that what was the need of prophet.

Quran is law and sunnah is practical use of that law. Without sunnah understanding quran is really difficult if not impossible.

Simple example. How will you offer namaz in absence of sunnah and hadith ?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Read Quran (the way it should be read) and you will know.

And QURAN doesn't show us a single complete days of our everyday Prophet life
Its law but the definition of these Laws comes Sunnah, which came through Rewayats/ Sahi Hadiths @I.R.A

 

[I.R.A]

I listen to quran with meaninhs almost daily. Where it covered alot of things but nit all.

"And when the Qur'an is recited, listen to it carefully and remain silent so that mercy can be obtained by you ." 7:204

If I take the literal meaning of mercy, then I will be imagining myself begging forgiveness for my sins (which I should in any case irrespective of if I am listening to Quran or not), so what kind of mercy can be shown to me by listening to Quran then? The biggest mercy for me would be know my purpose in this world.


"And the Messenger will say, (On the day of Judgement) "O my Lord, these are my own people who had deserted this Qur'an ." Surah Al Furqaan No.25 Ayat No.30

If quran had been enough without sunnah that what was the need of profit.

"(O Prophet) Recite what has been revealed to you of the Book (the Quran)" Surah No. 29, An Ankaboot, Part of Ayat No. 45

Messenger of ALLAH wasn't doing anything in contradiction with Quran or outside Quran.

Quran is law and sunnah is practical use of that law. Without sunnah understanding quran is really difficult if not impossible.

That is your preconceived belief. Else its the most beautiful and satisfying experience.

Simole example. How will you offer namaz in absence of sunnah and hadith ?

I don't wish to comment on Namaz. This is the most stupid question that gets asked. And the answer to this will offend many people.

And QURAN doesn't show us a single complete days of our everyday Prophet life
Its law but the definition of these Laws comes Sunnah, which came through Rewayats/ Sahi Hadiths @I.R.A

Quran and Messenger Peace be upon him are inseparable.

"Had We sent down this Qur'an on a mountain, verily, thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah. Such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect." 59:21

If you wish to understand Muhammad, then read Quran. It is as simple as that.

Bukhari only knew how to create sects and division in Muslims.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Quran and Messenger Peace be upon him are inseparable.

"Had We sent down this Qur'an on a mountain, verily, thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah. Such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect." 59:21

If you wish to understand Muhammad, then read Quran. It is as simple as that.

Bukhari only knew how to create sects and division in Muslims.

And In Quran there is no detail of Muhammad And his Sunnah, that how he had define problems of different kind, Quran just states the law and says that you're gonna be implement to your life, and how gonna implements in our daily life had been defined/describe by Sunnah and Sunnah came from various Riwayats/Sahi hadiths, and Bukarhi/ rest of all sources are not trying to divide Muslims, 99% Muslims thinks Bukhari is one the most accurate source After QURAN and lot of Bukari and other sources interrelate to Quran/Sunnah/Sahi hadiths @I.R.A

 

[I.R.A]

And In Quran there is no detail of Muhammad And his Sunnah, that how he had define problems of different kind, Quran just states the law and says that you're gonna be implement to your life, and how gonna implements in our daily life had been defined/describe by Sunnah and Sunnah came from various Riwayats/Sahi hadiths, and Bukarhi/ rest of all sources are not trying to divide Muslims, 99% Muslims thinks Bukhari is one the most accurate source After QURAN and lot of Bukari and other sources interrelate to Quran/Sunnah/Sahi hadiths @I.R.A

Your assumption that actions of Muhammad Peace be upon him were any different to what Quran advised, is flawed. Plus Muhammad peace be upon him in Quran is a Messenger, a human whose duty was to convey the message and warn, he held no knowledge of the unseen. This is mentioned in Quran itself

Coming to your assertion that Quran is law, is also flawed to some extent, its not law but an immutable framework of Divine guidance, to be consulted by every Islamic state to formulate and implement laws in their domain. No law should be in contradiction with or in opposition that framework. Apart from being that divine framework, Quran is an invitation to discovery and thinking, you will find evolution, creation, scientific facts, universe creation listed accurately. Quran is an invitation to research and ponder, I will give you a very simple example, you are an aviation enthusiast, can you tell me when was the concept of aerial bombardment first introduced? Or in which book it is written?

Bukhair and his cahoots were hypocrites and liars who labelled Muhammad Peace be upon him as an illiterate person who couldn't read or write .......... if you read Quran (the way it should be read) you would observe that Messenger peace be upon him cannot be an illiterate person.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Your assumption that actions of Muhammad Peace be upon him were any different to what Quran advised, is flawed.

Where did i say that Naozobillah, @I.R.A Most of Quran doesn't gives us any explanations about how to implement these Law/frame of work in our daily/routine life its Sunnah that's gives us most of explanation HOW TO IMPLEMENT those Laws/frame of work into our daily routine life

Bukhair and his cahoots were hypocrites and liars who labelled Muhammad Peace be upon him as an illiterate person who couldn't read or write .......... if you read Quran (the way it should be read) you would observe that Messenger peace be upon him cannot be an illiterate person.

You're wrong, Read the Quran when first time HAZRAT JibRail comes in cave hira, they ask him to speak (IQRA) but he had tell them he can't Speak, and what a fool you're whole QURAN had (NAZIL) in Arabic language hence was not problem for him, those Scholars are telling his knowledge is limited to Saudi Arabia/MAKKAH @I.R.A

 

[The Accountant]

"And when the Qur'an is recited, listen to it carefully and remain silent so that mercy can be obtained by you ." 7:204

If I take the literal meaning of mercy, then I will be imagining myself begging forgiveness for my sins (which I should in any case irrespective of if I am listening to Quran or not), so what kind of mercy can be shown to me by listening to Quran then? The biggest mercy for me would be know my purpose in this world.


"And the Messenger will say, (On the day of Judgement) "O my Lord, these are my own people who had deserted this Qur'an ." Surah Al Furqaan No.25 Ayat No.30




"(O Prophet) Recite what has been revealed to you of the Book (the Quran)" Surah No. 29, An Ankaboot, Part of Ayat No. 45

Messenger of ALLAH wasn't doing anything in contradiction with Quran or outside Quran.




That is your preconceived belief. Else its the most beautiful and satisfying experience.




I don't wish to comment on Namaz. This is the most stupid question that gets asked. And the answer to this will offend many people.



Quran and Messenger Peace be upon him are inseparable.

"Had We sent down this Qur'an on a mountain, verily, thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah. Such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect." 59:21

If you wish to understand Muhammad, then read Quran. It is as simple as that.

Bukhari only knew how to create sects and division in Muslims.

None of your statement indicates that Sunnat should not be followed. Here you are just stating versus highlighting importance of Quran. Ok out of many here is the key verse highlighting importance of hadith and sunnah:

You should accept whatever the Messenger gives you and abandon whatever he tells you to abandon. Have taqwa of Allah... (Surat al-Hashr: 7)

There is no single evidence on which you can claim that Bukhari and other books of Sahih hadith are false. This is your baseless claim.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

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I've had enough of this BS. Look at what the Indian had stated about Islam and then look at that I said, but apparently comforting those kind of people makes you a troll. What is this BS @WebMaster? Are Indians allowed to say whatever they want on here but if we raise our voice its going to be crushed?

All give context to the members quoted on what happened. That Indian member that I quoted went around the forum and talked absolute, nonsense about Pakistan, Islam and Kashmir. So I reported it multiple times but no response from the mods. So I quoted him and called out his BS, but only to get a warning from the mods. It's like they have their own agenda, especially one of them.

 

[Dubious]

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@waz @Dubious @Zibago @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @OsmanAli98 @maximuswarrior @everyone else

I've had enough of this BS. Look at what the Indian had stated about Islam and then look at that I said, but apparently comforting those kind of people makes you a troll. What is this BS @WebMaster? Are Indians allowed to say whatever they want on here but if we raise our voice its going to be crushed?

You are not allowed to reply to trolls...if someone is saying something wrong/ bad...you are to report or call the mods!
@Arsalan

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

You are not allowed to reply to trolls...if someone is saying something wrong/ bad...you are to report or call the mods!
@Arsalan

Islam tells me otherwise. I have to stand up for what is right, but since your saying that then I wont be raising my voice for Kashmir either. Why should I? I'm not allowed to respond to trolls?

 

[Dubious]

Islam tells me otherwise. I have to stand up for what is right, but since your saying that then I wont be raising my voice for Kashmir either. Why should I? I'm not allowed to respond to trolls?

Islam does not tell you to belittle anyone...To stand up for right with manners and politeness! With the haq / right being used as your weapon not gutter language!

Sorry bro...You know this is the ONLY issue I raise for you...language

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Islam does not tell you to belittle anyone...To stand up for right with manners and politeness! With the haq / right being used as your weapon not gutter language!

Sorry bro...You know this is the ONLY issue I raise for you...language

You do realize this isn't some fictional world we are living in right? Profanity it a part of the language and you can have no control over it. So just stop acting like one of my parents

Edit, also the only word that could be counted as a swear word is "sh$t" but are you serious? If that's what your referring to?