what will happen after a collapse? Will we become like Somalia?

[truthseeker2010]

A default doesn't mean a national collapse. Argentina has defaulted multiple times, they're still getting by just fine.

The problem will come in the form of exports, international assets, and foreign financial aid. These would disappear over night. Local industries would be affected, and many shut down until alternate sources can be found.

A nation like Pakistan won't collapse, but it will definitely become poorer.

From a military view point: I don't know if the army leadership knows just how bad it will get for them, because all those shiny toys that they've been buying, they're gonna end up being glorified door stoppers. They won't have the money or supplies to maintain them thus aggression from Afghanistan and India will increase as a result of all this because they will 100% smell weakness from Pakistan.

what's the per capita income of argentina? its more than 10 times pak. Plus its trade is not as negative as pak.

This what happened to Lebanon after default. This one hour long video report.

Lebonan and Sri Lanka are both small and literate countries. Whereas pak is neither.

 

[epebble]

I wish I could see how Sri Lanka turned out, but whats the likely scenario? If Govt has no money, no police, no military and no water, electricity. Basically anarchy ?
what normally happens in cases of default?

Combination of economic and political collapse combined with TTP attacks has greater similarity to Lebanon than Sri Lanka.

This what happened to Lebanon after default. This one hour long video report.

Yes, Lebanon is the closest analog. But of course, Pakistan is 20 times large, so everything will be scaled up by 20.

what's the per capita income of argentina? its more than 10 times pak. Plus its trade is not as negative as pak.



Lebonan and Sri Lanka are both small and literate countries. Whereas pak is neither.

Argentina is a country at peace. It does not have TTP or other insurgencies. It also seems to have fewer "bookkeeping" problems than Pakistan; hence IMF is willing to lend.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

1- After default the old people will not get pension

2- Crooks who moved their money to Belgium will still have money

3- The Currency will be like toilet paper

4- Foreign Companies will try to pick up stuff for Pennies

5- Inflation will rise

6- More Theft and crimes, all will rise

7- Pakistanis will be called, slum dogs obviously that is what bankrupt nations
are called

8- The Schools and Universities will be disrupted as not many would want to attend due to rising cost

Likely Millions will die due to Hunger and poverty or at early childbirth

Mostly the default hurt folk who are rich the most for poor people they won't feel much just won't be able to buy food


Pakistan's Status in world is already not very good

 

[nahtanbob]

We the expat won't our country fall. But punish the corrupt. Because we are lost of Mohicans in foreign lands. Countries need to generate resources to survive. Not live on foreign remittances for long.
Today the price of wheat per kg went up 20 rupees... but the media is not reporting it. The majority of Pakistani average salary is between 30,000 to 40,000 ...can they survive under these numbers ????

Pakistan produces 25 million metric tons of wheat. Unless it is exported I do not see the problem

 

[epebble]

Pakistan produces 25 million metric tons of wheat. Unless it is exported I do not see the problem

But something weird is going on. There are riots over flour. May be the distribution system is straining under inflation or inefficiency.

Pakistanis in a fix over deepening food price disparities​

Pakistanis in a fix over deepening food price disparities

Data released by the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics shows the rate of 20kg flour bag in Karachi has reached a record Rs2,800-3,000.

www.dawn.com

 

[Goritoes]

Worse, we will become Afghanistan. But If Pakistan collapse, I hope America take over Karachi at least.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan was already like Somalia during Nawaz Sharif term
2008-2019 = Pakistan became worse then Somalia , we were on ventilator

-22 Billion USD deficit


Pakistan's 95% territory is worse then Somalia just few areas like few cities enjoyed decent infrastructure , Pakistanis just looked at these few areas , the few remaining untainted parts of city as a excuse that their nation was modern. In reality the Trains and other stuff is all 100 year old infrastructure


Now after March 2022 Fiasco thanks to JANRAIL Raj , the backbone of country is broken


JANRAIL had been proping up Gwadar with hope that they will allocate plots and zones to their own people and then sell these at 2-3 Crore per plot and make a killing by selling trash to oversea Pakistani


Don't even have a water or sewage supply in Gawadar and the advertisement have been running for last 20-25 years

How many Janrail Sold plots in Punjab and moved to USA or UK? lots
Every next JANRAIL's son or daughter is living in USA or UK

 

[Clutch]

Most likely won’t happened because it will also impact Army.

Army is accelerating the collapse.... Because they are an institution filled with idiots!

Worse, we will become Afghanistan. But If Pakistan collapse, I hope America take over Karachi at least.

Can American please take all of Pakistan???... I want a Green Card.

1- After default the old people will not get pension

2- Crooks who moved their money to Belgium will still have money

3- The Currency will be like toilet paper

4- Foreign Companies will try to pick up stuff for Pennies

5- Inflation will rise

6- More Theft and crimes, all will rise

7- Pakistanis will be called, slum dogs obviously that is what bankrupt nations
are called

8- The Schools and Universities will be disrupted as not many would want to attend due to rising cost

Likely Millions will die due to Hunger and poverty or at early childbirth

Mostly the default hurt folk who are rich the most for poor people they won't feel much just won't be able to buy food


Pakistan's Status in world is already not very good

The poor suffering Zombies will invade enclaves such as DHA and Bahria Town for rape and pillage... It would be anarchy

 

[SaadH]

what will GHQ do after collapse?

Formally surrender to Indian Army...Mir Hafiz will emulate sepoy predecessor Gen. Niazi and bow down to his Indian counterpart, tell a dirty joke or two in punjabi and accept Indians as their masters.

 

[AZ1]

alteady crime rate increase in karachi.

I hope default not to happen, common ppl will suffer

 

[lastofthepatriots]

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Didn't Bhutto said 'Idhar hum udhar Tum' and declined a S.Mujeeb govt. at the center, who got more than double the votes than Bhutto's PPP, in East Pak.

A poster child of Ayub Khan and nurtured and pampered by the Military of West Pak.

And Army Generals calling Suar ke bacchay alag he raheen. Do takay(from where it came) and Nangay Bhookay Bengalis...

Where BD is now after getting out of the clutches of the Mil Estab. A Pakistan without the tentacles of the Mil Estab. looks elusive and distant.

 

[Dalit]

First things first. The Americans are going to make sure that the nukes and delivery systems are secure. We don't want an economically unstable country to possess nukes or do we now? The rest will follow...

LOL what gives me immense joy is the fact that even the traditional allies aren't coming forward to save this failed state. I mean the whole planet has given up on Pakistan. Pakistan is about to transform into an economic pariah.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

failed state.

A Failed State with a Rogue Army, and ironically the reason for Pakistan being a failed state, an extra large hegemon Military Inc. at the cost of a country.

It was never going to work, and bound to happen.

 

[maithil]

What failed state ? Does this happen in a state close to default ?

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