There's been some news that the US is willing to sell two used Oliver Perry Hazard frigates to Pakistan. This is the most advanced frigate in the US fleet, and it comes with some nice stuff! Pakistan will have the chance to get the SM-2 Surface-to-Air missile. It is deployed on AEGIS ships, and the latest version has a range of 65-100km! Not to mention these can be stored in the VLS system put on the Oliver Perry. The Oliver Perrys have been going through an upgrade program that started in early 2003, if Pakistan can get their hands on one of the newly upgraded version, then the PN will get a big boost. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the SM-2 has the capability to shoot down other missiles!!!!!
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The news you have mentioned are pretty accurate that Pakistan is considering to buy these ships, and these ships are now in consideration of choosing weapon systems in PN. They are most likely figuring out the way how they will pay for these frigates. One thing we need to keep in mind is how the F-16 deal went through. PAF had not even finalized the deal and this earth quake disastor occured which troubled the F-16 deal, and now the deal is in yes and no situation due to lack of money available for militarization, the situation which we are currently in is that it all depends on how much the public will favor of these deals.
F-16 deal is much important than the deal of these Oliver Class ships, its sad to know that this earth quake disastor have taken away almost all of the money from military funds. It's now all depends on public that it will let the military meet its defence needs (in my opinion they dont care, because of lot of scandals of military in the past.)
This was the good period in which we could get some good toys, but it looks like that some of the deals wont go through.
No offence but the last 5 Perry Class Frigates commissioned in the US Navy was..........................
USS Reuben James FFG-57 22 Mar 1986
USS Samuel B. Roberts FFG-58 12 Apr 1986
USS Kauffman FFG-59 Bath 28 Feb 1987
USS Rodney M. Davis FFG-60 09 May 1987
USS Ingraham FFG-61 05 Aug 1989
So if we consider that the PN gets 2 of them then the each ship will be approximately 20 years old already.
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Miro
USS Reuben James FFG-57 22 Mar 1986
USS Samuel B. Roberts FFG-58 12 Apr 1986
USS Kauffman FFG-59 Bath 28 Feb 1987
USS Rodney M. Davis FFG-60 09 May 1987
USS Ingraham FFG-61 05 Aug 1989
So if we consider that the PN gets 2 of them then the each ship will be approximately 20 years old already.
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Miro
it would but pakistan plans to make the at least one f-22p in pakistan
and similarly the american's could help build a facilites (or improve the f-22p facility)
and once they have this kind of facility the oliver perry clas ships could be run for another 20 years instead of having to retire them in 10 years as the life of these ships is around 30 years
The F-16 is over 20 years old yet it's still one of the most dangerous fighters in the world. The Oliver Perry Class Frigates have been extensively upgraded to meet the requirements of the USN. And if they fill those requirements, then those must be some pretty good Frigates!
PAC (Pakistan Aeronautics Complex) is also thought to be premature..that is untill they performed full overhauls on mirages including their engines, F7s and designed such componetents as a HUD and added capabilitys such as laser guided munition on the f7 and developed radar warning revievers and related avionics to dispence chaff and flare automaticly. also the intergrated C4I system which pakistan sold to the bengalis.....
the navy is not that far behind!
also lets not get carried away and forget that the Baku aka gorshkov was launched in 1982 and since the kiev class there has been another class of carriers in Ruskistan called the Kuznetsov which where launched in 1991 one of which is in china (Varyag) which is a whole 100 foot longer and 27000 tons hevier!
(im trying to say just as the gorshkov will be updated the perrys have also gone through a update!!
You know when HAL achieved the stuff like this??
Forget overhauling for a while
You know when HAL made it's first aircraft?
HAL even do overhauling for foriegn AF crafts.
Ok I can;t compare the IN and PN shipbuilding in numbers due to various reasons.
But check the history of Indian Shipbuilding and compare it once with PN.
also lets not get carried away and forget that the Baku aka gorshkov was launched in 1982 and since the kiev class there has been another class of carriers in Ruskistan called the Kuznetsov which where launched in 1991 one of which is in china (Varyag) which is a whole 100 foot longer and 27000 tons hevier!
(im trying to say just as the gorshkov will be updated the perrys have also gone through a update!!
Gorshkov is to fill the gap between the retiring VIRAAT and the upcoming ADS.
Also there is a difference between the PN and IN needs.
The entire PN fleet stands nowhere near the IN surface Fleet.
So may be IN can carried away with a 20 year old carrier coz it's gonna launch brand new MiG-29K's but PN needs something new and more beasty to counter the IN.
Also dont forget IN dosent lacks funds. It has 4+ dedicated Shipyards producing quality ships. IN's shipbuilding have a long term planning which unfortunately PN dosent have.
If PN acquires these old amerrican ships then for how many years PN will able to use it? Instead build/buy new one's by putting some extra little money and make long term plans.
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Miro
More than 5 years, thats what PN usually does. It often buys the cheap qualitive stuff that are retired by super powers to meet its needs.
About you suggestion to build new ones. Well F-22p Frigates are bringing TOT that will be the first time when Pakistan will have capablity to build its own sophisticated frigates. Money is acutally being put sir.
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