What's new

What Africans really think of China !!!!

EastWest

BANNED
Joined
Jan 27, 2011
Messages
1,484
Reaction score
0
This is a report from a Sri Lankan Newspaper..which clearly explains what is going in Africa w.r.t Chinese investments..and they are scared it may so happen in Sri Lanka too....
====================================================


SL opposition to follow Africa against China ?


China’s stance regarding the UN panel report was revealed through its Foreign Ministry spokesman. The latter said, ‘not to complicate the issue and leave it to Colombo to handle it’. China took two to three weeks to make this statement after Russia’s stance was announced in relation to the panel report. China pursued a silent policy earlier in connection with the panel report. Although China was inclined to back the Sri Lanka (SL) Govt., yet it did not rush to express its stance. Russia however came out into the open against the panel report while China expressed its stance through its Foreign Ministry spokesman under pressure exerted by the SL Govt. It is unknown what made China take this reluctant and reticent attitude in connection with the panel report.

Like how the governmental and non-governmental patriotic organisations are conducting a campaign against America and the Western countries, there is a build up of a campaign against China launched by the UNP within SL. The UNP has begun criticising the Hambantota Port and the Chinese work force in other Chinese projects. This situation is reminiscent of that which prevailed in Africa when China was deploying its resources there long time ago.

Countries in Africa are revolting against the Chinese investments and trade in their continent. People are increasingly getting anxious and restless about Chinese intentions, who are being viewed as the new Colonial powers. China claims that it has done more to end poverty in Africa than any other country. China is Africa’s biggest trading partner and its money has paid for countless new Schools and Hospitals.

In the initial years, investments and trade with China were welcomed with open arms. Chinese investment boosted employment in Africa and made basic goods like shoes and radios more affordable . In 2010, Chinese trade with Africa was more than US $ 120 billion. In the past two years China has given more loans to poor countries, mainly in Africa than the World Bank. Chinese are now expanding beyond just mining activity in Africa. Chinese Companies are signing infrastructure deals worth more than $ 50 billion a year. China is also investing in other areas like finance and industrial, and the Commercial Bank of China has bought 20% of South African Standard Bank, the continent’s biggest Bank.In recent time, attitudes towards China have changed in Africa. Chinese products are increasingly held up as examples of shoddy work. Investments from China have multiplied corruption in the African countries. They are also seen as interfering in the internal politics of the countries and therefore viewed as a colonial power. Africans say they increasingly feel under siege. Tens of thousands of entrepreneurs from China have fanned out across the continent. More Chinese have come to Africa in the past ten years than Europeans in the past 400. First came Chinese from State owned companies, but more and more arrive on their own and most of the contract workers, mainly prison labour are left behind after finishing contract work.

Buildings erected by the Chinese construction firms have occasionally fallen apart. :whistle:A hospital in Luanda, the capital of Angola, was opened with great fanfare but cracks appeared in the walls within a few months and it soon closed. The Chinese-built road from Lusaka, Zambia’s capital to Chirundu, 130 km (81 miles) to the South east, was quickly swept away by rains.:undecided:

Chinese expatriates care little about rules and regulations. Local sensitivities are routinely ignored at home, and so abroad. Sinopec, an oil Firm has explored in a Gabonese national park. Another state oil company has created lakes of spilled crude oil in Sudan. To avoid censure regarding poor working conditions, Chinese managers bribe union bosses. Tensions came to a head last year when in mines in Sinazongwe, a town in Southern Zambia, two Chinese managers fired shotguns at protesting workers, injuring at least a dozen. There are three possible reasons for recent hatred towards Chinese in Africa. First is that competition, especially from foreigners including Chinese, is rarely popular. Hundreds of textile factories across Nigeria collapsed in recent years because they could not compete with cheap Chinese garments, resulting in thousands of lost jobs. The second reason could be that the Chinese are bringing bad habits as well as trade and investment. The mainland Chinese economy is riddled with corruption, even by African standards, so when the Chinese go abroad they carry on bribing and undermine good governance in host countries. A third reason is that China is seen as hoarding African resources.

China has become a rallying point for most opposition leaders in several countries because of their relationship with ruling Africa Dictators. Opposition parties, especially in southern Africa, frequently campaign on anti-China platforms. Even in normally calm places like Nambia, antipathy is stirring. In Zambia, the opposition leader, Michael Sata, has made Sino-skepticism his trademark. It could only be a matter of time before the Africans start to throw out Chinese like they did to other colonial powers.

If the SL opposition succeeds in inciting and instigating the people against the Chinese, the new colonial power, it can prove that the Exim Bank of China can be more lethal than the World Bank.

During the tenure of office of the UNP Govt., the SLFP which was in the opposition at that time frowned upon and identified the World Bank ; America and western countries ; and multinational Companies as ‘extortionists’, sucking the blood of third world countries. They discredited and described them as the new colonial power. Today, if the UNP which is in the opposition hurls the same allegations against China, a situation akin to that in Africa could be spawned in SL.
 
.
Buildings erected by the Chinese construction firms have occasionally fallen apart. A hospital in Luanda, the capital of Angola, was opened with great fanfare but cracks appeared in the walls within a few months and it soon closed. The Chinese-built road from Lusaka, Zambia’s capital to Chirundu, 130 km (81 miles) to the South east, was quickly swept away by rains.

Is anything new here?:china: :whistle:
 
.
The UNP has begun criticising the Hambantota Port and the Chinese work force in other Chinese projects.

Looks like not everything is so hunky-dory for China in Srilanka as our Srilankan friends lead us to believe.
 
.
If African countries want no Chinese investment and help, please let us know loud and clear. If they want to go back their old times, they are welcome to do so.
 
.
There are very friendly forces in Africa to China; there exists also not that friendly. The majority of neutrals can be bought. To take all Africans as a single voice is delusional. The Chinese has a large African market and are well received, you have to thank the European colonists. The Chinese generally takes them as equal (sentimental wise, and that's very important, doesn't imply Chinese don't have racial slurs against Africans). They may feel comfortable working with Chinese than their previous European "masters." And that's it.

If anyone in the world don't look down upon them, Africans would believe it's a friend. The europeans notion of Chinese trying to colonize Africa is absurd, do they see the racial differences between Chinese and the Europeans at all, for a minute, they allow them to believe the Chinese would take Africans as they do.
 
.
Africa will not put up with a colonialist China

A strategy of striking deals with corrupt leaders and seizing control of African industries will ultimately backfire

article-gftrdd.jpg


China's sacred text is not a holy book like the Torah, the Bible, or the Qur'an. Instead, it is The Art of War by Sun Tzu. Sun's core belief is that the "ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting."

Nowadays, we are witnessing the application of Sun's ideas in Africa, where China's prime objectives are to secure energy and mineral supplies to fuel its breakneck economic expansion, open up new markets, curtail Taiwan's influence on the continent, consolidate its burgeoning global authority, and clinch for itself African-allocated export quotas. (The Chinese takeovers of South African and Nigerian textile industries are good examples of this strategy. The textiles exported the world over by these industries are deemed African exports when in reality they are now Chinese exports.)

Astutely, China has sought to place its African investments and diplomacy within the context of the old non-aligned movement and "Bandung spirit", an era when many Africans viewed China as a brotherly oppressed nation, and thus supported efforts by the People's Republic to gain a permanent seat on the United Nations security council, to replace Taiwan. And, of course, China offered firm backing for Africa's anticolonial struggles and efforts to end apartheid.

In trying to depict its current dealings with Africa as "win-win" co-operation, China deliberately seeks to portray Africa's current relations with the west as exploitative. Unlike China, its leaders claim, the west continues to hold African countries hostage through a combination of unequal trade deals, lack of access to capital markets, aid dependency, financial deregulation and economic liberalisation, budget austerity, crippling debt, political meddling and military intervention.

What the Chinese are silent about is that their country's growing engagement in Africa has created both opportunities and risks for African development. Although China's trade, foreign direct investment (FDI), and aid may broaden Africa's growth options, they also promote what can only be called a win-lose situation. For, excluding oil, Africa has a negative trade balance with China.

Making matters worse, African exports to China are even less technology-intensive than its exports to the world. China's share of Africa's unprocessed primary products was more than 80% of its total imports from Africa. Equally, imports consist of cheap Chinese products of appallingly poor quality.

The level of Chinese FDI flowing into Africa at present is staggering. But this Chinese FDI is bundled together with concessional loans, and there is much double-counting, with the same ventures being recorded both as aid flows and as inflows of FDI. Given the heavy volume of concessionary loans provided by China, concern about African countries' future debt burden is growing. And no matter how much China publicises its record in Africa, the greatest contributor of financial inflows to the continent is the African diaspora. Indeed, South Africa, not China, is the country making the largest investments in the rest of Africa.

China's credo of "non-interference in domestic affairs" and "separation of business and politics" is, not surprisingly, music to the ears of African leaders, who fall over each other to sing the praises of Chinese co-operation with their countries. These leaders' attitudes recall the worst behaviour of their predecessors, many of whom engaged centuries ago with the west's rising imperial powers to halt the growth of indigenous industry. Instead, these potentates of the past chose to import manufactured goods from Europe in exchange for their own subjects, whom they exported as slaves.

When slavery was abolished, the terms of partnership with western colonisers changed from trade in slaves to trade in commodities. After independence in the early 1960s, during the cold war, they played the west against the Soviet bloc for the same purpose.

Today, many African leaders pursue similar policies with China, which has struck bargains across Africa to secure crude oil, minerals, and metals in exchange for infrastructure built by Chinese companies. Hence, the import of Chinese labour into a continent not lacking in able-bodied workers. Indeed, within a mere decade, more Chinese have come to live in Africa than there are Europeans on the continent, even after many centuries of European colonial and neocolonial rule. With apartheid-style practices – including the gunning down of local workers by a Chinese manager in Zambia – Chinese managers impose appalling working conditions on their African employees.

Today, China has seized control of a huge swath of local African industries, in the process grabbing their allocated export quotas. As China's global economic role increases, its labour costs will rise and its currency will appreciate, eroding its competitiveness. Might Chinese manufacturers then look to Africa as a base for production, using the facilities they have built and the hordes of workers they have been steadily exporting there?

Chinese leaders pride themselves on a keen sense of history, and on taking a longterm view of China's development. Still, in perpetuating a partnership with the same breed of corrupt leaders that colluded with Africa's previous invaders and exploiters, the Chinese have forgotten that Africans, albeit often their own worst enemies, have nonetheless gained the upper hand over their foes in the end.

The descendants of slave traders and slave owners in the United States now have a black man as their president; Africa's colonisers have all been defeated and kicked out; and apartheid's proponents are now governed by those they despised and abused for generations. Unless the Chinese mend their ways, the same fate awaits them in Africa. Sun Tzu would understand that.
 
.
There are very friendly forces in Africa to China; there exists also not that friendly. The majority of neutrals can be bought. To take all Africans as a single voice is delusional. The Chinese has a large African market and are well received, you have to thank the European colonists. The Chinese generally takes them as equal (sentimental wise, and that's very important, doesn't imply Chinese don't have racial slurs against Africans). They may feel comfortable working with Chinese than their previous European "masters." And that's it.

If anyone in the world don't look down upon them, Africans would believe it's a friend. The europeans notion of Chinese trying to colonize Africa is absurd, do they see the racial differences between Chinese and the Europeans at all, for a minute, they allow them to believe the Chinese would take Africans as they do.


well said!!! china is successful right now in the international arena because of mutual benefit trust and respect that it gives to other countries.... as far as indians are concerned we all know how much they invested in afghanistan and what they have to show for it compared to china in other parts of the world.
 
.
If African countries want no Chinese investment and help, please let us know loud and clear. If they want to go back their old times, they are welcome to do so.

seriously bro dont go for this indian propoganda.. chinese investment is welcome in africa i am sure of that.
 
.
seriously bro dont go for this indian propoganda.. chinese investment is welcome in africa i am sure of that.

Of course, the Chinese tendency of not looking up or looking down at nobody makes them uniquely positions to take advantage of Africa both for themselves(Obvious China is in it form themselves, above all), and the Chinese side also is a believer if will benefit Africa as well.

But there are head counts in those woods who would never trust "clever" Chinese.
 
.
People are increasingly getting anxious and restless about Chinese intentions, who are being viewed as the new Colonial powers.

get used to it China, you want to be the new world power. Now get used to the same criticism that goes along with it.
 
.
seriously bro dont go for this indian propoganda.. chinese investment is welcome in africa i am sure of that.

Did u even check the link...or u commented based on my flags....this was written by a Srilankan..
 
.
get used to it China, you want to be the new world power. Now get used to the same criticism that goes along with it.

The Chinese has their own values, there are something they do, there are something they don't. They never cared about "criticism."
 
.
Buildings erected by the Chinese construction firms have occasionally fallen apart. :whistle:A hospital in Luanda, the capital of Angola, was opened with great fanfare but cracks appeared in the walls within a few months and it soon closed. The Chinese-built road from Lusaka, Zambia’s capital to Chirundu, 130 km (81 miles) to the South east, was quickly swept away by rains.:undecided:

I was intrigued by this bit here which stated that roads were quickly swept away by the rains which seemed somewhat full of exaggeration. To the normal reader one would immediately think that the work was shoddy etc. Interestingly I came across a forum which a native African was posting his views on which is quite insightful please refer to the postings of a Chike Chukudebelu.

China in Africa: The Real Story: Lusaka-Chirundu Road and Summer Research
 
.
seriously bro dont go for this indian propoganda.. chinese investment is welcome in africa i am sure of that.

Actually, my comments are not for those indians but for africans. It seems that quite a few africans do not appreciate what China has done for them.

I have no idea how much more China need do for them? Do we treat them unfairly like their colony masters before?
 
.
get used to it China, you want to be the new world power. Now get used to the same criticism that goes along with it.

China is not that interest in becoming the world power like what U.S. is now. We just want to get developed and trade with others. Foremost, we want to keep ourselves safe.
 
.

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom