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What a skull in an English pub says about India's 1857 mutiny

Ok. My bad I'm from Kerala, South Indian hence a member of Indian race, while you being a Pakistani may be an Arab. :p:

I have no idea what i am frankly. Never really gave it a thought.

Anyhow

Coming back to Akhand or Bharat Varsh. Man even people from Zimbabwe claim they had ruled entire of Africa. Whats the point?

Btw on the topic itself. An indian skull in a pub. Does not get more classic than this. But ofcourse you want the Koh i Noor back First?
 
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what a moron @Jackdaws is, unbelievable he's making this thread a Pak vs Ind debate rather then discussing the matter at hand.

Mods why is he always allowed to derail threads and troll posters in each and every single thread it tottaly ruins the experience of the forum when you have these posters always trying to stoke up arguments. @waz @The Eagle
What utter rubbish.
 
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Arre, idhar udhar kya sab phek rahein hain? Topic ke upar discuss karo na! BTW Nice to know history further.
 
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There were no Indians nor India in 1857.

The word Indian is more of a disgrace than this display of 'those who stood against colonization' mockery.

Put a recording device next to the skull and then hear that to know what this is all about.
But a Muslims soldier who took the stance.....Where were the monkeys
 
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The skull belonged to a 32-year-old Indian soldier who revolted against the British

In 2014, while sitting in an office in London's Mile End, historian Kim Wagner received an email from a couple who said they owned a skull.
But what was remarkable was a detailed handwritten note in a neatly folded slip of paper inserted in an eye socket. The note told the brief story of the skull:

"Skull of Havildar "Alum Bheg," 46th Regt. Bengal N. Infantry who was blown away from a gun, amongst several others of his Regt. He was a principal leader in the mutiny of 1857 & of a most ruffianly disposition. He took possession (at the head of a small party) of the road leading to the fort, to which place all the Europeans were hurrying for safety. His party surprised and killed Dr. Graham shooting him in his buggy by the side of his daughter. His next victim was the Rev. Mr. Hunter, a missionary, who was flying with his wife and daughters in the same direction. He murdered Mr Hunter, and his wife and daughters after being brutally treated were butchered by the road side.

Alum Bheg was about 32 years of age; 5 feet 7 ½ inches high and by no means an ill looking native.

The skull was brought home by Captain (AR) Costello (late Capt. 7th Drag. Guards), who was on duty when Alum Bheg was executed."
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What was clear from the note was that the skull was of a rebel Indian soldier called Alum Bheg, who belonged to the Bengal Regiment and who was executed in 1858 by being blown from the mouth of a cannon in Sialkot (a town in Punjab province located in present-day Pakistan); and that a man who witnessed the execution brought the skull to England.
'Grisly trophy'
On a wet November day, which was also his birthday, Dr Wagner met the couple. They told him that they had inherited the skull after one of their relatives took over a pub in Kent called The Lord Clyde in 1963, and found the skull stored under some old crates and boxes in a small room in the back of the building.

Nobody quite knows how the skull ended up in the pub. The local media had excitedly reported on the "nerve-shattering discovery" in 1963 and carried pictures of the new pub owners "proudly posing with the grisly trophy" before it was put up on display at the pub. When the owners died, it was finally passed on to their relatives who simply hid it away.

"And so it was I found myself standing in a small train station in Essex with a human skull in my bag. Not just any other skull but one directly related to a part of history that I write about and that I teach my students every year," says Dr Wagner.

What was very clear, he says, is that it was a "trophy skull, irrevocably linked to a narrat

Bheg's name was not mentioned in any of the documents, reports, letters, memoirs and trial records from the period in the archives and libraries in India and UK. There were also no descendants demanding the return of the skull.

There was also a revealing report in the illustrated newspaper, The Sphere, in 1911 on a grisly exhibit in a museum in Whitehall:

The ghastly memento of the Indian Mutiny has, we are informed, just been placed in the museum of the Royal United Service Institution at Whitehall. It is a skull of a sepoy of the 49th Regiment of Bengal Infantry who was blown from the guns in 1858 with eighteen others. The skull has been converted into a cigar box as we see.

The newspaper said that "while we may be able to understand all the savagery of the terrible time - the cruelty of the natives and the cruel retribution that followed - is it not an outrage that a memento of our retribution, which in these days would not be tolerated for a moment, should be placed on exhibition in a great public institution?"

Battling a famine of evidence, Dr Wagner began researching Bheg. He worked in the archives in London and Delhi, and travelled to Sialkot to locate the forgotten battlefield of the four-day Trimmu Ghat clash in July 1857 - during which the Sialkot rebels, including Bheg, were intercepted and defeated by a General Nicholson.

The result is Wagner's new book, The Skull of Alum Bheg, a vivid page-turner on life and death in British India during the largest anti-colonial revolt of the 19th Century. Yasmin Khan, associate professor of history at the University of Oxford, says the book "reads like a detective novel and yet is also an important contribution to understanding British rule and the extent of colonial violence".

In Dr Wagner's telling, Alum Bheg - properly transliterated as Alim Beg - was a Sunni Muslim from northern India. The Bengal Regiment was raised in Cawnpore (now Kanpur) in today's Uttar Pradesh state, and it is likely that Bheg hailed from the region. Muslims made up around 20% of the largely Hindu regiments.

Bheg was responsible for a small detachment of soldiers, and had a gruelling routine, guarding the camp, carrying letters and working as a peon for higher officials of the regiment. After the revolt in July 1857, he appeared to have evaded the British troops until his capture and execution nearly a year later.

Resting place
Captain Costello, who was described as being present at the execution in the note, was established as Robert George Costello. Dr Wagner believes he is the man who brought the skull back to Britain. He was born in Ireland and sent to India in 1857, and retired from his commission 10 months later, boarded a steamer from India in October 1858, and reached Southampton a little more than a month later.

"The final aim of my research is to prepare for Bheg to be repatriated to India, if at all possible," Dr Wagner says.

A fitting place to bury Bheg, he believes, would be on the island on the Ravi river, where the sepoy and his fellow soldiers had taken refuge after surviving the first day of the battle and which today marks the border between India and Pakistan.
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"Ultimately, that is not for me to decide, but whatever happens, the final chapter of Alum Bheg's story has yet to be written."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43616597
Firangis deserved that. I salute Mr Alum for his great sacrifice.
Azadi Zindabad.
 
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I as talking about the hanuman at the time

You mean the baniya or poor hindus?

Hindus were living exactly as they are now. Baniye made a deal with British.

Poor hindus initially fought but then the fear took over them and they gave in to baniyas tactics.

The mughal raj was over. The British raj lasted 90 years marred with two world wars where the indian was cannon fodder. During war the great famine hit. Britain would feed the Norwegian front from india while millions were forced to march as far african dunes.

Thats why if india refuses jizya to me. I will colonize it


Lol
 
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Lmao.. did you watch that in a Bollywood movie?
There is more to it than panday.
1 man revolution..lmao.

Maybe you should tell that to your dramebaaz countryman who said that a Muslim took a stance and wondered where the 'monkeys' were !!
 
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