we pakistanis and indians

[Spring Onion]

do u mean this

:

aa vee aryan hega ??

 

[Gabbar]

What was the topic of this thread again?

 

[Spring Onion]

lol, can you read and understand english?

Read my post again, i still give **** to whatever any ignorent person say until he or she don't have proper knowlwgde about it, I have and i can even prove it in a single post, But i won't cause as i said, i don't give **** wheather you beleive it or not..! Thats your problem not mine dude..!

You got internet connection ,,what all it takes is to do a search rather then ranting.:

You can a day or two to prove that Hindus are Aryans i dont mind if you need more time for that

 

[Paan Singh]

aa vee aryan hega ??

mai kya tusi te kuch wi kar te soch sakdey ho

 

[Spring Onion]

What was the topic of this thread again?

Peace Kebab

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

You can a day or two to prove that Hindus are Aryans i dont mind if you need more time for that

 

[StingRoy]

Peace Kebab

Now I am hungry... off to dinner!

 

[Spring Onion]

mai kya tusi te kuch wi kar te soch sakdey ho

lay jay main twanu obama bana diyan tay phir?

 

[Spring Onion]

:: Now I am hungry... off to dinner!

have some aryan kebabs

 

[subject17]

What is this? Public chat room?

Trollers paradise.

 

[Paan Singh]

lay jay main twanu obama bana diyan tay phir?

phie te tusi carla bruny ho ji,ek dam jabardast

 

[divya]

have some aryan kebabs

Oye mere liye kuch veg order karwa do

 

[darkhand08]

You can a day or two to prove that Hindus are Aryans i dont mind if you need more time for that

Derivation of the word “Aryan”

The English word “Aryan” is derived from the Sanskrit word ārya meaning 'noble'[1]; it was used initially as a national name to designate the worshippers of the Devas and especially Indra according to Brahmanical principles (performance of sacrifice, Yajna)

History
In Indian/Sanskrit literature

In Sanskrit and related Indic languages, Arya refers to one of high birth or caste. Although Aryas were concentrated in North India, the title of Arya was used with various modifications throughout the Indian Subcontinent. Kharavela, the Emperor of Kalinga around 1 BCE is referred as an Arya in the Hatigumpha inscriptions of the Khandagiri-Udaigiri cave complex in Bhubaneswar, Orissa. Various Indian religions, chiefly Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism use the term Arya as an epithet of honour and it occurs as such in their religious texts.

In the Ramayana and Mahabharata, Arya is used as an honorific for many characters including Ravana.
[edit] Vedic Sanskrit

The term Arya is used 36 times in 34 hymns in the Rigveda. According to Talageri (2000, The Rig Veda. A Historical Analysis) "the particular Vedic Aryans of the Rigveda were one section among these Purus, who called themselves Bharatas." Thus it is possible, according to Talageri, that at one point Arya did refer to a specific tribe. "Brahma of glory is he to whom both the Aryans and the Dasas belong" (RV 8.8.9).[23]

While the word may ultimately derive from a tribal name, already in the Rigveda it appears as a religious distinction, separating those who sacrifice "properly" from those who do not belong to the historical Vedic religion, presaging the usage in later Hinduism where the term comes to denote religious righteousness or piety. In RV 9.63.5, ârya "noble, pious, righteous" is used as contrasting with árāvan "not liberal, envious, hostile":

índraṃ várdhanto aptúraḥ kṛṇvánto víśvam âryam apaghnánto árāvṇaḥ
"[the Soma-drops], performing every noble work, active, augmenting Indra's strength, driving away the godless ones." (trans. Griffith)

Sanskrit Epics

Arya and Anarya are primarily used in the moral sense in the Hindu Epics. People are usually called Arya or Anarya based on their behaviour.

Ramayana

In the Ramayana, the term Arya can also apply to Raksasas or to Ravana. In several instances, the Vanaras and Raksasas called themselves Arya. The monkey king Sugriva is called an Arya (Ram: 505102712) and he also speaks of his brother Vali as an Arya (Ram: 402402434). In another instance in the Ramayana, Ravana regards himself and his ministers as Aryas (Ram: 600600512).

A logical explanation is that, Ravana and his ministers belonged to the highest Varna (Ravana being a Brahmin), and Brahmins were generally considered 'noble' of deed and hence called Arya (noble). Thus, while Ravana was considered Arya (and regarded himself as such), he was not really an Arya because he was not noble of deeds. So, he is widely considered by Hindus as Anarya (non-Arya).

The Ramayana describes Rama as: arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah, meaning "Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone."

Mahabharata

In the Mahabharata, the terms Arya or Anarya are often applied to people according to their behaviour. Dushasana, who tried to disrobe Draupadi in the Kaurava court, is called an "Anarya" (Mbh:0020600253). Vidura, the son of a Dasi born from Vyasa, was the only person in the assembly whose behaviour is called "Arya", because he was the only one who openly protested when Draupadi was being disrobed by Dushasana. The Pandavas called themselves "Anarya" in the Mahabharata (0071670471) when they killed Drona through deception.

According to the Mahabharata, a person's behaviour (not wealth or learning) determines if he can be called an Arya [24].[25].Also the whole Kuru clan was called as Arya .
[edit] Religious use of the Sanskrit and Pali term

The term ārya is often found in Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain texts. In the Indian spiritual context it can be applied to Rishis or to someone who has mastered the four noble truths and entered upon the spiritual path. The religions of India are sometimes called collectively ārya dharma, a term that includes the religions that originated in India (e.g. Hinduism (Sanatana Dharma), Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism).
[edit] Hinduism

"O my Lord, a person who is chanting Your holy name, although born of a low family like that of a Chandala, is situated on the highest platform of self-realization. Such a person must have performed all kinds of penances and sacrifices according to Vedic literatures many, many times after taking bath in all the holy places of pilgrimage. Such a person is considered to be the best of the Aryan family" (Bhagavata Purana 3.33.7).

According to Swami Vivekananda, "A child materially born is not an Aryan; the child born in spirituality is an Aryan." He further elaborated, referring to the Manu Smriti: "Says our great law-giver, Manu, giving the definition of an Aryan, 'He is the Aryan, who is born through prayer.' Every child not born through prayer is illegitimate, according to the great law-giver: "The child must be prayed for. Those children that come with curses, that slip into the world, just in a moment of inadvertence, because that could not be prevented - what can we expect of such progeny?..."(Swami Vivekananda, Complete Works vol.8)

Swami Dayananda founded a Dharmic organisation Arya Samaj in 1875. Sri Aurobindo published a journal combining nationalism and spiritualism under the title Arya from 1914 to 1921.

I hope you find a connection between hinduism and aryans in this.

Do tell if you need the sources frm wher i am quoting this.....I can tell you in advance that i have Encyclopedia Brittanica as one of my sources...
Aryan (people) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

 

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[ajtr]

Indian and Pakistani same people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats breaking news.................................

Who are pakistanis?
Perssians,turks,Arab,Aghan,greek,mongol,mughal etc etc .in the sense who ever set foot on the present land of pakistan pakistanis became that ,may be british,American, chinese too.

Who are indians?
definition keeps on changing over time with the increasing and decreasing land boundaries of subcontinent.