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We neglected another India's crime to China. India's been arming China's rebels(Tibetans) for long time.

During Vietnam War, China trained and armed North Vietnamese soldiers and sent them to Vietnam to fight US. We can do that again to NE India.

Nagas will never merge with India, says rebel leader Thuingaleng Muivah
Nagas have been a free and sovereign independent people from time immemorial, said the rebel leader.

Published: 14th August 2020 06:59 PM

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Rebels celebrating 'Naga Independence Day' on Friday (Photo | EPS)


GUWAHATI: Thuingaleng Muivah, the “Ato Kilonser” (Prime Minister) of extremist group National Socialist Council of Nagalim (NSCN-IM), on Friday said the Nagas would co-exist with India but not merge with it.

In his 74th “Naga Independence Day” speech, he said the Government of India, through the Framework Agreement that was signed in 2015, had recognized the Naga sovereignty as it speaks of inclusive peaceful co-existence of the two entities sharing sovereign power.

The octogenarian rebel leader said ‘inclusive’ meant all Nagas in different administrative units and political camps are to be included in the agreement. The co-existence of the two entities is self-explanatory. It means the two peoples and nations will co-exist, he argued.

“Political and legal experts admit the terms ‘co-existence’ and ‘shared-sovereignty’ apply to two entities, not one entity. The Nagas will co-exist with India sharing sovereign powers as agreed in the Framework Agreement and defined in the competencies. But they will not merge with India,” Muivah asserted.

Giving a historical perspective of the Naga movement, he said the Nagas had fought back the British imperialist forces for decades and declared independence on August 14, 1947, on the eve of lapse of the British power. In 1950, he said, the “Constituent Assembly” of India had invited the Nagas to join the Union of India but it was rejected by the Nagas. He said they had also rejected the offer of joining the Union of Burma.

“This historical fact was reaffirmed by the subsequent conduct of plebiscite in 1951 where 99.9% of the Naga people voted in favour of sovereign independent Nagalim,” Muivah said.

He narrated how former Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru had sent armed forces to subjugate the Nagas with “brute force”. He also spoke about events preceding the NSCN-IM’s signing of a ceasefire agreement in 1997 after then Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao had officially invited the group for a political talk in Paris, France.

“… The unique history of the Nagas was finally recognized by the BJP-led NDA government on July 11, 2002, during the tenure of former Prime Minister of India late Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Late (NSCN-IM chairman) Mr. Isak Chishi Swu and I came to India on official invitations consecutively in 2002, 2005 and 2010 by the Government of India for expediting the negotiations with more seriousness in frequent consultations with the Prime Minister of India,” Muivah said.

He said during the talks, the outfit had clearly spelled out the political stand of the Nagas that they were not asking for a sovereign and independent Naga nation from India.

“Nagas have been a free and sovereign independent people from time immemorial. Ours is a case of aggression on Nagalim by India and Myanmar. It is the Naga national resistance movement against aggressors where Nagas of all ages, genders, and status except a few traitors are involved…

“The Naga people have neither accepted the Union of India nor her Constitution at any point of time. History will ever speak of that fact. We will not accept them today and even in days to come. We have also told them that Nagas and Indians are two poles apart in terms of history, race, identity, culture, language, geography, political concept, and faith. Except for the common security and common commercial interests, we have nothing in common,” Muivah said.

He also spoke on the contentious issues of separate “Naga national flag” and “Naga constitution”.

“We are not asking for Naga national flag and constitution from the Government of India. Recognize them or no, we have our own flag and constitution. Flag and constitution are ingredients of our recognized sovereign entity and the symbols of Naga nationhood. The Nagas must keep their flag and constitution,” he added.

 
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Then Mongolia can claim the whole China dude.
Mongolians are an ethnicity of China , Mongolia was part of China and would’ve still been part of China but the soviets forced separation of Mongolia and turned it into a soviet satellite state.
 
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Nagas will never merge with India, says rebel leader Thuingaleng Muivah
Nagas have been a free and sovereign independent people from time immemorial, said the rebel leader.

Published: 14th August 2020 06:59 PM

nagaland.PNG


Rebels celebrating 'Naga Independence Day' on Friday (Photo | EPS)


GUWAHATI: Thuingaleng Muivah, the “Ato Kilonser” (Prime Minister) of extremist group National Socialist Council of Nagalim (NSCN-IM), on Friday said the Nagas would co-exist with India but not merge with it.

In his 74th “Naga Independence Day” speech, he said the Government of India, through the Framework Agreement that was signed in 2015, had recognized the Naga sovereignty as it speaks of inclusive peaceful co-existence of the two entities sharing sovereign power.

The octogenarian rebel leader said ‘inclusive’ meant all Nagas in different administrative units and political camps are to be included in the agreement. The co-existence of the two entities is self-explanatory. It means the two peoples and nations will co-exist, he argued.

“Political and legal experts admit the terms ‘co-existence’ and ‘shared-sovereignty’ apply to two entities, not one entity. The Nagas will co-exist with India sharing sovereign powers as agreed in the Framework Agreement and defined in the competencies. But they will not merge with India,” Muivah asserted.

Giving a historical perspective of the Naga movement, he said the Nagas had fought back the British imperialist forces for decades and declared independence on August 14, 1947, on the eve of lapse of the British power. In 1950, he said, the “Constituent Assembly” of India had invited the Nagas to join the Union of India but it was rejected by the Nagas. He said they had also rejected the offer of joining the Union of Burma.

“This historical fact was reaffirmed by the subsequent conduct of plebiscite in 1951 where 99.9% of the Naga people voted in favour of sovereign independent Nagalim,” Muivah said.

He narrated how former Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru had sent armed forces to subjugate the Nagas with “brute force”. He also spoke about events preceding the NSCN-IM’s signing of a ceasefire agreement in 1997 after then Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao had officially invited the group for a political talk in Paris, France.

“… The unique history of the Nagas was finally recognized by the BJP-led NDA government on July 11, 2002, during the tenure of former Prime Minister of India late Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Late (NSCN-IM chairman) Mr. Isak Chishi Swu and I came to India on official invitations consecutively in 2002, 2005 and 2010 by the Government of India for expediting the negotiations with more seriousness in frequent consultations with the Prime Minister of India,” Muivah said.

He said during the talks, the outfit had clearly spelled out the political stand of the Nagas that they were not asking for a sovereign and independent Naga nation from India.

“Nagas have been a free and sovereign independent people from time immemorial. Ours is a case of aggression on Nagalim by India and Myanmar. It is the Naga national resistance movement against aggressors where Nagas of all ages, genders, and status except a few traitors are involved…

“The Naga people have neither accepted the Union of India nor her Constitution at any point of time. History will ever speak of that fact. We will not accept them today and even in days to come. We have also told them that Nagas and Indians are two poles apart in terms of history, race, identity, culture, language, geography, political concept, and faith. Except for the common security and common commercial interests, we have nothing in common,” Muivah said.

He also spoke on the contentious issues of separate “Naga national flag” and “Naga constitution”.

“We are not asking for Naga national flag and constitution from the Government of India. Recognize them or no, we have our own flag and constitution. Flag and constitution are ingredients of our recognized sovereign entity and the symbols of Naga nationhood. The Nagas must keep their flag and constitution,” he added.

Time to offer them all kinds of weapons and aids, for free.
 
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India is actively supporting Tibet independce , so it is only fair that China returns favor by openly supporting Kashmir, Assam, Nagaland, Manipur independence movements. The cost of one Type 15 Tank will go a long way there.
 
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Mongolians are an ethnicity of China , Mongolia was part of China and would’ve still been part of China but the soviets forced separation of Mongolia and turned it into a soviet satellite state.
Majority of Mongolians today are Chinese citizens (one of 56 ethnicities in China, including Han). And the nobles now live in inner Mongolia of China, and those live in outer Mongolia are descendants of slaves.
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India have been waiting long time for this now it was the right time to show china that we have your own people who are willing to fight with you for us, clear message for those who think india is harmless i sud say its a poison for neighbours and deadly for world this artificial union have to be in 18 pieces.
China sud help rebels india is vulnerable itsself. take full advantage and please dont return areas after war for sake of resolve issue by dialogues.
 
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The People's Republic of Naganlim?? It's a blatant copying of The People's Republic of China
 
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Now the gloves are off, China can openly support Indian north east insurgencies.

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We can play that game too. Given your disturbed regions like Xinjiang and Tibet borders ours. You try doing it in Nagaland, we'll do the same with Tibet and Xinjiang. Let's see how much traction each of separatist movements will get. I am pretty sure CCP is not dumb to go for such a thing. China is not as invincible as your cheerleaders have you believe on PDF.
 
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We can play that game too. Given your disturbed regions like Xinjiang and Tibet borders ours. You try doing it in Nagaland, we'll do the same with Tibet and Xinjiang. Let's see how much traction each of separatist movements will get. I am pretty sure CCP is not dumb to go for such a thing. China is not as invincible as your cheerleaders have you believe on PDF.
You can try, Xinjiang and Tibet are very peaceful and safe, nothing like insurgency infested NE India, besides, in terms of funds and resources, India's capability is nowhere close to what China can offer.
 
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You can try, Xinjiang and Tibet are very peaceful and safe, nothing like insurgency infested NE India, besides, in terms of funds and resources, India's capability is nowhere close to what China can offer.

Well, Indian based Tibetans disagree for one. And who knows how it is in Tibet and Xinjiang. Just roads and building doesnt constitute development. Individual personality development and individual personal freedom and freedom of expression all constitute development. I am pretty sure CCP bots will not understand it.

India allows for criticism and China doesn't. And for that reason alone you shouldn't use indian media articles to conclude that things are bad in India and somehow everything is hunky dory in China. Nothing is far from the truth.

Like I said CCP aren't foolish. If they do use insurgency to fight against India. India just as well can. India being a democracy can still cope with it but can a communist China do so when the world be breathing over its neck. Lets see.
 
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