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Nagas will never merge with India, says rebel leader Thuingaleng Muivah
Nagas have been a free and sovereign independent people from time immemorial, said the rebel leader.

Published: 14th August 2020 06:59 PM

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Rebels celebrating 'Naga Independence Day' on Friday (Photo | EPS)


GUWAHATI: Thuingaleng Muivah, the “Ato Kilonser” (Prime Minister) of extremist group National Socialist Council of Nagalim (NSCN-IM), on Friday said the Nagas would co-exist with India but not merge with it.

In his 74th “Naga Independence Day” speech, he said the Government of India, through the Framework Agreement that was signed in 2015, had recognized the Naga sovereignty as it speaks of inclusive peaceful co-existence of the two entities sharing sovereign power.

The octogenarian rebel leader said ‘inclusive’ meant all Nagas in different administrative units and political camps are to be included in the agreement. The co-existence of the two entities is self-explanatory. It means the two peoples and nations will co-exist, he argued.

“Political and legal experts admit the terms ‘co-existence’ and ‘shared-sovereignty’ apply to two entities, not one entity. The Nagas will co-exist with India sharing sovereign powers as agreed in the Framework Agreement and defined in the competencies. But they will not merge with India,” Muivah asserted.

Giving a historical perspective of the Naga movement, he said the Nagas had fought back the British imperialist forces for decades and declared independence on August 14, 1947, on the eve of lapse of the British power. In 1950, he said, the “Constituent Assembly” of India had invited the Nagas to join the Union of India but it was rejected by the Nagas. He said they had also rejected the offer of joining the Union of Burma.

“This historical fact was reaffirmed by the subsequent conduct of plebiscite in 1951 where 99.9% of the Naga people voted in favour of sovereign independent Nagalim,” Muivah said.

He narrated how former Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru had sent armed forces to subjugate the Nagas with “brute force”. He also spoke about events preceding the NSCN-IM’s signing of a ceasefire agreement in 1997 after then Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao had officially invited the group for a political talk in Paris, France.

“… The unique history of the Nagas was finally recognized by the BJP-led NDA government on July 11, 2002, during the tenure of former Prime Minister of India late Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Late (NSCN-IM chairman) Mr. Isak Chishi Swu and I came to India on official invitations consecutively in 2002, 2005 and 2010 by the Government of India for expediting the negotiations with more seriousness in frequent consultations with the Prime Minister of India,” Muivah said.

He said during the talks, the outfit had clearly spelled out the political stand of the Nagas that they were not asking for a sovereign and independent Naga nation from India.

“Nagas have been a free and sovereign independent people from time immemorial. Ours is a case of aggression on Nagalim by India and Myanmar. It is the Naga national resistance movement against aggressors where Nagas of all ages, genders, and status except a few traitors are involved…

“The Naga people have neither accepted the Union of India nor her Constitution at any point of time. History will ever speak of that fact. We will not accept them today and even in days to come. We have also told them that Nagas and Indians are two poles apart in terms of history, race, identity, culture, language, geography, political concept, and faith. Except for the common security and common commercial interests, we have nothing in common,” Muivah said.

He also spoke on the contentious issues of separate “Naga national flag” and “Naga constitution”.

“We are not asking for Naga national flag and constitution from the Government of India. Recognize them or no, we have our own flag and constitution. Flag and constitution are ingredients of our recognized sovereign entity and the symbols of Naga nationhood. The Nagas must keep their flag and constitution,” he added.

The Chinese will give these people freedom and statehood after they are finished with the war ... besides AP given back to China, the rest of NE India will become an independent state.

On the plus side, the Indians will never have to worry about Siliguri Corridor ever again :enjoy:
 
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You already did first, that's why I say the gloves are off.

There is no help for insurgency from India. They are fighting for India in this case not Tibet. They are sure have become a part of Indian society and army (willingly, might I add) just like Gurkhas. If you don't like it, tough luck.
 
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Lol. Let's see if China start a war with India over this. And we would see how the world react about Chinese occupation of Tibet.

Is this what Indians can do? Always bringing in world reaction. We all know western world is no friend of China. Come up with something new.
 
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The Chinese will give these people freedom and statehood after they are finished with the war ... besides AP given back to China, the rest of NE India will become an independent state.

On the plus side, the Indians will never have to worry about Siliguri Corridor ever again :enjoy:
You sure are not American. Lol. You are as ignorant as a Pakistani.
 
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The Chinese will give these people freedom and statehood after they are finished with the war ... besides AP given back to China, the rest of NE India will become an independent state.

On the plus side, the Indians will never have to worry about Siliguri Corridor ever again :enjoy:

These people rarely seek helps from Chinese. I never met one of them in Chinese social medias, forums or anywhere.
It's not promising to give them freedom. We need to break up diplomat relationship with India, then break out war, then expel the Indian army, occupy the area, then found the local government and military. No! It's too hard to free a nation by this way. They should find out their own method, and seek necessary helps from others.
 
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Is this what Indians can do? Always bringing in world reaction. We all know western world is no friend of China. Come up with something new.
That's how wars are won. You cannot live in isolation in this world. Which is why Imran saying that our economic future lies with China is as dumb as it gets. But I'll leave it you to worry about that. And you don't have to worry about India.
 
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That's how wars are won. You cannot live in isolation in this world. Which is why Imran saying that our economic future lies with China is as dumb as it gets. But I'll leave it you to worry about that. And you don't have to worry about India.

Thats not how wars are won. Wars are fought in isolation and world at large doesn't care about China-India conflict. But USA like the fact that they will now sell more weapons to India.

You are not dealing with 10 times smaller Pakistan GDP here. Despite that you couldn't do in AJK/GB what China have done in Galwan with all of western world support.

You are dealing with 5 times larger GDP of China.
 
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Thats not how wars are won. Wars are fought in isolation and world at large doesn't care about China-India conflict. But USA like the fact that they will now sell more weapons to India.

You are not dealing with 10 times smaller Pakistan GDP here. Despite that you couldn't do in AJK/GB what China have done in Galwan with all of western world support.

You are dealing with 5 times larger GDP of China.

Lol. Wars are not fought in isolation at all. Do you think Bangladesh formed because India fought you in isolation? No. India won the narrative and got newly formed Bangladesh recognised around the world. Its Soviet Union at the time who stood by us against possible American intervention.

And India is just about working towards building narrative against GB/AJK. Although I would happy to have LOC as international border, GOI is adamant to get that part as well.

Also, China has claim to part of Ladakh atmost, they would want to get that and not more. They can't have billion people hating them for some parched land. There is no risk for a full scale invasion of India. India is positioning itself as anti-China to get benefits from the west in trade and investment. That's all. GOI is brilliant as such foreign investment has zoomed even during Pandemic.
 
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We can do the same and even more, if you don't like it, tough luck.
Sure as long as they are not involved in insurgency. Sure try it. Lol.

But I am pretty sure CCP cannot get same loyalty from Nagas as India gets from Tibetans and Gurkhas.
 
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We can play that game too. Given your disturbed regions like Xinjiang and Tibet borders ours. You try doing it in Nagaland, we'll do the same with Tibet and Xinjiang. Let's see how much traction each of separatist movements will get. I am pretty sure CCP is not dumb to go for such a thing. China is not as invincible as your cheerleaders have you believe on PDF.
india can't do shit about tibet or xinjiang ,it's not a two way road.Why Indians even talk about xinjiang is beyond comprehension,even USA itself couldn't do shit anymore .
 
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india can't do shit about tibet or xinjiang ,it's not a two way road.Why Indians even talk about xinjiang is beyond comprehension,even USA itself couldn't do shit anymore .
Lol India has too many insurgency programs for China to get involved in ... its like a huge buffet table. China could immediately meddle in the Jammu and Kashmir occupation issue for instance or rescind its recognition of Sikkim.
 
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india can't do shit about tibet or xinjiang ,it's not a two way road.Why Indians even talk about xinjiang is beyond comprehension,even USA itself couldn't do shit anymore .
You are too gone a case to discuss. Go cheerlead China somewhere else.
 
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