Washingtonpost: Straight out of the Nazi playbook’: Hindu try to engineer ‘genius’ babies in India

[lastofthepatriots]

fir main shoro karan? par kachay chilkay ya oblay howay?

Katchay chilkay.

 

[Azadkashmir]

japanese are not aryans from my knowledge but they are well educated and can do things.

indians needs to ahem provide free education, and collectivism to be promoted for them to further thier true potential. not fair skincreams, or this theory of rss etc.

Most inventors/scientist did not eat meat or very little. most be 100% percent organic.

what you are looking for is what we call noor the light. in order to get that the whole indians society has to be restructered or you do it small scale, clean food, clean water all natural, then you must pick the best subjects to teach, and be practical. Then thier is promotion of collectivsm and anti-corruption including to animals / enviroments. Maybe study where paper money comes from? print your own / mint coins, fund your own projects, hmm like water that irrigates the crops.

well this is short answer, it going to be a long journey india.

IF you need help am here to reproduce and provide aryan babies -
disclaimer some of them maybe beef eaters.

http://www.socakajak-klub.si/mma/The+China+Study.pdf/20111116065942/

read this good clean food good health leads to healthy brain.

 

[Samudra Manthan]

Are sir.. your told you WON, ab to party banti hai

Chalo at least I hope you will not go around spreading misinformation.

 

[Khanate]

The RSS wanting an All Hindu India-is a very similar demand to the historical demand for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Try not to ride the moral high horse through this one.

False equivalency.

Muslims in South Asia were in minority hence the demand for a homeland. Hindus in India are not a minority. In fact, Hindus represent the vast majority in India, around 80%.

I didn't say you are an ***, but I said you are pulling stuff out of your ***. There is a difference.

This is a positive discrimination as in preferences and choices and no one has been hurt. So your argument is nothing but foolishness.

Again, consistently aiming for the low-end of the pyramid with no argument relevant to the topic.

Oh cmon, I can get you articles on any topic in this world and right now there is a white backlash going on because whites are feeling victimised all over the world. As I said people have a preference and a choice and as long as no one is being materially or socially deprived you can keep carrying your shade card and cry victim and no one will give a toss.

https://newsone.com/3260417/americans-think-discrimination-against-white-people-a-huge-problem/

https://www.inc.com/jt-odonnell/this-white-male-cant-get-hired-should-we-feel-sorry-for-him.html

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/03/diddys-revolt-tv-sued-discrimination-white-people/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22401...ng-for-new-recruits-from-bmelgbt-communities/

Rambling is not an argument and reverse racism is not the topic. Discrimination based on skin colour, or Shadeism, is the topic which RSS-linked organisations are promoting out of self-loathing, according to Indian news sources.

It is not your business to ask private citizens why they choose something or other. They owe you nothing. But yeah, if you are just debating ideas or ideals then sure. There is all kind of garbage which goes on in name of discussion and this is one more.

The programs being promoted by RSS-linked organisations are indeed harmful and hence it is my and the rest of the world's business to have a conversation about it. And if you seek to shut down the debate then that is a private/personal issue. The conversation will go one though.

He is a doctor of medicine because Ayurveda is legally recognised as valid system of medicine in India. So again you have no basis for your arguments and all you are coming across is as an ignoramus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996581/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ong-foreign-students/articleshow/52883994.cms

In short, "Dr." Hitesh Jani is an Indian witch doctor. No doubt then he is a fraud with disturbing ideas. That explains his idiotic ideas:

The parents may have lower IQ, with a poor educational background, but their baby can be extremely bright. If the proper procedure is followed, babies of dark-skinned parents with lesser height can have fair complexion and grow taller.

​

LOL. Those children would be considered "fair" and that is what we are talking about here.

Tell that to "Dr." Hitesh Jani.

I don't care about the skin colour of a child. The image of the child I posted is literally the first image that pops up in Google when you key in the phrase "Indian child".

May be they fancy a lighter shade, may be a quirk.

Again,

• Why can't you accept a dark-skinned baby? Can you specify what precisely is wrong with the dark-skinned baby that you need him/her to be fair-skinned?

And,

• Why should dark-skinned parents aspire to have fair children? Again, specify why the pitch is being made to them and not fair-skinned parents.

 

[Samudra Manthan]

False equivalency.

Muslims in South Asia were in minority hence the demand for a homeland. Hindus in India are not a minority. In fact, Hindus represent the vast majority in India, around 80%.

What rubbish is this? So a minority demanding a religion based homeland is normal and a majority demanding a land based on their religion is not okay? Is being a mtajority now a curse that they lose all their human rights?

Again, consistently aiming for the low-end of the pyramid with no argument relevant to the topic.

Shameless bluff after having lost the argument.

Rambling is not an argument and reverse racism is not the topic. Discrimination based on skin colour, or Shadeism, is the topic which RSS-linked organisations are promoting out of self-loathing, according to Indian news sources.

There is zero discrimination except in your jaudiced eyes which sees everything yellow.

The programs being promoted by RSS-linked organisations are indeed harmful and hence it is my and the rest of the world's business to have a conversation about it. And if you seek to shut down the debate then that is a private/personal issue. The conversation will go one though.

Oh you can jolly well amuse yourself by your pomposity Don Quixote. While RSS grows in popularity.

In short, "Dr." Hitesh Jani is an Indian witch doctor. No doubt then he is a fraud with disturbing ideas. That explains his idiotic ideas:

The parents may have lower IQ, with a poor educational background, but their baby can be extremely bright. If the proper procedure is followed, babies of dark-skinned parents with lesser height can have fair complexion and grow taller.

Oh well, you are just being a Pakistani.

ell that to "Dr." Hitesh Jani.

I don't care about the skin colour of a child. The image of the child I posted is literally the first image that pops up in Google when you key in the phrase "Indian child".

LOL. Dr. Jani is I am sure well aware of this fact. He is not responsible for your disease.

Again,

• Why can't you accept a dark-skinned baby? Can you specify what precisely is wrong with the dark-skinned baby that you need him/her to be fair-skinned?

And,

• Why should dark-skinned parents aspire to have fair children? Again, specify why the pitch is being made to them and not fair-skinned parents.

Because a market for it exists. It is their fancy and they don't owe you an explanation.

 

[Mugwop]

White supremacists don't even think like this

 

[Khanate]

Shameless bluff after having lost the argument.

There is zero discrimination except in your jaudiced eyes which sees everything yellow.

Oh well, you are just being a Pakistani.

Straight to the bottom with no argument whatsoever and nothing even remotely relevant to the topic.

LOL. Dr. Jani is I am sure well aware of this fact. He is not responsible for your disease.

"Dr." Hitesh Jani is absolutely responsible for the statements and prejudices he promotes including:

The parents may have lower IQ, with a poor educational background, but their baby can be extremely bright. If the proper procedure is followed, babies of dark-skinned parents with lesser height can have fair complexion and grow taller.
​

What a fraud.

Because a market for it exists. It is their fancy and they don't owe you an explanation.

A free market of ideas does not imply you get a pass on the debate. You still have to debate and defend your ideas. If not then we get to say those ideas are rubbish, which in this case they are.

Again,

• Why can't you accept a dark-skinned baby? Can you specify what precisely is wrong with the dark-skinned baby that you need him/her to be fair-skinned?

And,

• Why should dark-skinned parents aspire to have fair children? Again, specify why the pitch is being made to them and not fair-skinned parents.

 

[desiHindu]

Is being a mtajority now a curse that they lose all their human rights?

As long as the majority is hindu - Yes, they have no rights, their religion must be ridiculed and their traditions trampled.
If the Majority is Muslim - then the law of god is supreme and any one disagreeing will get their head sent back to their family in a package.

Welcome to 21st century Mulla logic.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Members of a Hindu far-right organization called Arogya Bharati say they are working with expectant couples in the country to produce “customized” babies, who, they hope, will be taller, fairer and smarter than other babies, according to a report in the Indian Express newspaper.

The group's health officials claimed that their program — a combination of diet, ayurvedic medicine and other practices — has led to 450 of these babies, and they hope to have “thousands” more by 2020, the report said.

“The parents may have lower IQ, with a poor educational background, but their baby can be extremely bright. If the proper procedure is followed, babies of dark-skinned parents with lesser height can have fair complexion and grow taller,” Hitesh Jani, the group's national convener, told the newspaper.

Jani explained that the program consists of a “purification of energy channels” and body before a pregnancy, and mantra-chanting and “proper food,” such as meals rich in calcium and vitamin A, after the baby is born.

The newspaper identified the group as the “health wing” of the conservative Hindu group Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, but Ramesh Gautam, Arogya Bharati's national general secretary, said the group was merely “inspired” by the conservative ideology of the RSS rather than being officially supported by it. Arogya Bharati's website says it is a "voluntary organization of service minded people who have an interest in the health of society.”

On Saturday, the chairwoman for a state child rights commission tried to attend one of the workshops where couples are counseled on how to produce these “genius” babies — as the Economic Times termed it — but was barred by organizers, that newspaper said.

“This is an unscientific thing that’s happening here. It cannot continue,” Ananya Chatterjee, the chair of the West Bengal Commission for Protection of Child Rights, said. The group countered that her charges were “politically motivated.”

Responding to a petition from the commission, the West Bengal state high court later mandated that organizers present an affidavit and video of the proceedings, which went off as scheduled.

The program launched over a decade ago and has spread to several Indian states. Organizers said it was inspired by a RSS leader who met a woman in Germany more than 40 years ago. An official said the woman led a post World War II re-population effort in Germany for “signature children” based on the same principles, according to the Indian Express report.

This comment — and its evocation of the legacy of Third Reich era eugenics — prompted immediate backlash on social media, with one critic writing on the Daily O opinion website that this “dystopia in the womb” was “straight out of the Nazi playbook.”

The RSS was founded in 1925 as a volunteer organization to advance the rights of Hindus. Over the years, it has given rise to many of the country’s more successful conservative politicians, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi. A few of its founders praised in essays and books the totalitarian movements of Nazism and fascism sweeping Europe at the time, scholars have noted.

“The original RSS stalwarts found a political validity in racial resurrection championed by Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich,” Angshukanta Chakraborty, an opinion writer on the Daily O website, wrote, adding, “And even now, a racially pure search for homeland or creation of one along racially/communally pure lines appeals to the RSS and is the heart of its ideology.”

A phoenix can never be born from a chicken- that will require futuristic genetic therapy and not via 'chanting mantras' <==lolz

Again,

• Why can't you accept a dark-skinned baby? Can you specify what precisely is wrong with the dark-skinned baby that you need him/her to be fair-skinned?

And,

• Why should dark-skinned parents aspire to have fair children? Again, specify why the pitch is being made to them and not fair-skinned parents.

Indian skin colour inferiority complex.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

A phoenix can never be born from a chicken- that will require futuristic genetic therapy and not via 'chanting mantras' <==lolz



Indian skin colour inferiority complex.

The bitter truth Indians need to understand bro...

And Indians got inferiority complex not just with skin color! With facial structure and height too...

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

to be honest, the article stating 'fair skin, height and IQ' can be achieved via 'chanting mantras, diet and ayuverdic medicines'- is reminiscence of this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/malaysian-shaman-performs-ritual-missing-plane-n50691

Carrying a pair of coconuts, a "magical" walking stick and some Zamzam water, a popular Malaysian shaman performed a ceremony that he hoped would help locate the missing Boeing 777.

Ibrahim Mat Zin, who calls himself Raja Bomoh Sedunia Nujum VIP, conducted the symbolic rituals alongside several assistants Wednesday at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

Many expressed astonishment that spiritual methods were being considered in the hunt for the plane as the operation entered its fifth day.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...aysias-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing

"China deployed 10 satellites, Malaysia deployed a few witch doctors," another weibo user pointed out."

 

[SorryNotSorry]

False equivalency.

Muslims in South Asia were in minority hence the demand for a homeland. Hindus in India are not a minority. In fact, Hindus represent the vast majority in India, around 80%.

I'm done here. We have successfully moved way past the news mentioned in the thread.
Nice talking to you though, despite the some of the flippant remarks you made earlier- this conversation was somewhat enjoyable and meaningful for me ( a rarity on PDF ). Forgive me if I crossed any lines.
On a whole- the this eugenics thing ( if true ) is shameful and wrong. We both agree on that.
And on that note- Ciao

 

[Samudra Manthan]

Straight to the bottom with no argument whatsoever and nothing even remotely relevant to the topic.

"Dr." Hitesh Jani is absolutely responsible for the statements and prejudices he promotes including:

The parents may have lower IQ, with a poor educational background, but their baby can be extremely bright. If the proper procedure is followed, babies of dark-skinned parents with lesser height can have fair complexion and grow taller.
​

What a fraud.




A free market of ideas does not imply you get a pass on the debate. You still have to debate and defend your ideas. If not then we get to say those ideas are rubbish, which in this case they are.

Again,

• Why can't you accept a dark-skinned baby? Can you specify what precisely is wrong with the dark-skinned baby that you need him/her to be fair-skinned?

And,

• Why should dark-skinned parents aspire to have fair children? Again, specify why the pitch is being made to them and not fair-skinned parents.

You need to show rejection of dark skinned babies in India to ask that question. Your logic is like asking someone why they beat their wives.

 

[ashok mourya]

A phoenix can never be born from a chicken- that will require futuristic genetic therapy and not via 'chanting mantras' <==lolz



Indian skin colour inferiority complex.

Its less than Chinese completions.
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Bai fu mei: China’s obsession with white skin and ‘trophy’ partners may stem from genetic mutation 15,000 years ago, scientists say

New international study led by Chinese team finds the diverging complexions of Han Chinese and native Africans and Southeast Asians was caused by a mutation of the OCA2 gene 15,224 years ago

Stephen ChenUPDATED : Friday, 5 Aug 2016, 5:01PM


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Chinese people’s preference for paler or white-coloured skin originates from a “defective” gene, according to an international study led by Chinese scientists.

Men in the country can often seem obsessed with fair skin, especially in a partner, while many women have in the past favoured a Caucasian or “trophy” husband. This has long been dismissed as a social, economic or cultural problem, but new evidence suggests it may stem from a genetic predisposition.

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For thousands of years, China was ruled by pale-looking nobles in the north, and the invasion of Europeans in its more modern history further added to the perception that a white skin colouring was somehow superior.




But the new study found that the phenomenon could have a biological explanation dating back to prehistoric times as the relatively light skin colouring of the Han Chinese may derive from the same gene held responsible for a number of diseases.

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The researchers from China, the United States and Europe analysed genetic samples from more than 1,000 individuals and found that the fairer skin of the Han Chinese in comparison to people from Africa and Southeast Asia was caused by a mutation of the OCA2 gene.

One of the gene’s main functions is to help transport tyrosine, an amino acid used as a raw material in synthesising melanin, a pigment that determines skin colouration .



The mutated version of the gene has been linked to many diseases, such as albinism, acute eye inflammation, Angelman syndrome (characterised by mental disability and jerky movements), learning difficulties and obsessive eating, to name but a few.

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The team of researchers were led by Professor Su Bing at the Kunming Institute of Zoology in Yunnan province, and Meng Anming from Tsinghua University in Beijing.


They estimated that the mutated genes which led to the fairer skin of the Han Chinese occurred some 15,224 years ago. This happened after that group’s ancestors migrated up north from Southwest China and Southeast Asia about 25,000 – 30,000 years ago.



The first pale-skinned people may have been mistaken for sickly individuals by other members of their clan or tribe, who were predominantly dark-skinned.

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This dark colouring would have served as a natural form of defence “against the harmful effects of UV radiation, including protection against sunburn and folate destruction”, according to the team’s paper published in the latest issue of the journal Molecular Biology and Evolution.

But in north China, which experiences less sunshine than other parts of the country, the whiter skin allowed the body to absorb more sunlight to prevent a deficiency of vitamin D. A shortage of this can lead to fragile or brittle bones, cardiovascular problems and cognitive impairments.



According to the laws of natural selection, those with lighter skin were fitter for survival in the new environment. They may also have enjoyed other physical advantages such as being taller with stronger bones and perhaps a greater intelligence, studies show.

Another interesting discovery of the latest study was that the same OCA2 mutation was not detected among Europeans, who also underwent a shift to paler skin after the first modern humans moved out of Africa.

But the evolution of people’s skin colour in Europe took place on a completely different set of genes such as SLC24A5 and SLC45A2, according to other studies.



The genetic difference between Han Chinese and Europeans implied “independent skin-lightening in both East Asians and Europeans”, the scientists said.

But they said other environmental and biological factors could not be ruled out, either.

“Dietary changes and/or sexual selection … may also have created selective pressure in skin lightening,” they wrote.

And that “selective pressure” has shown scant sign of easing up.

A quick pore through a Chinese search engine quickly reveals what many modern Chinese woman aspire to be: Bai-fu-mei. This portmanteau of three Chinese characters - “white”, “rich”, “beautiful” - puts white first, even though in today’s China, wealth is for many the most desirable quality.

A study by market research company Mintel last year found that more than 95 per cent of Chinese women aged 20 to 49 had used facial masks to whiten their face - or three times as many as in Britain.

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to be honest, the article stating 'fair skin, height and IQ' can be achieved via 'chanting mantras, diet and ayuverdic medicines'- is reminiscence of this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/malaysian-shaman-performs-ritual-missing-plane-n50691

Carrying a pair of coconuts, a "magical" walking stick and some Zamzam water, a popular Malaysian shaman performed a ceremony that he hoped would help locate the missing Boeing 777.

Ibrahim Mat Zin, who calls himself Raja Bomoh Sedunia Nujum VIP, conducted the symbolic rituals alongside several assistants Wednesday at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

Many expressed astonishment that spiritual methods were being considered in the hunt for the plane as the operation entered its fifth day.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...aysias-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing

"China deployed 10 satellites, Malaysia deployed a few witch doctors," another weibo user pointed out."

Obsession
By Wade Shepard @vagabondjourney

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“What? You like old skin!?!” a young Chinese guy exclaimed to me in English.

“Old,” was the word he used for dark. I’m not sure if this was a language error or if it was a direct translation of some pejorative Chinese term for dark skin, but I answered in the affirmative anyway.

“Yes, I like old skin.”

Of course we were talking about China’s deeply ingrained obsession with white skin. My companion then pointed across to one of his classmates and told me outright that she had dark skin and was not very beautiful. She agreed. I tried to disagree.

“In your country people have lots of different color skins,” he tried to justify my apparent tastelessness, “so you think all color skin is beautiful. Here in China, everybody has yellow skin, so we think white skin is beautiful.”

This was an understatement.

The Chinese — and East Asians in general — have an all out obsession with light colored skin. This isn’t the direct result of Western influence dictated by Hollywood, advertising, hot Caucasian chicks, or anything like this. No, the people here are not trying to look “American;” their goal is to look like fair skinned Chinese people.



White skin is a very long-honed determinant of beauty in China, and spans back to a time long before the first white dude ever set foot in North America. To read through old Chinese literature you’ll find that skin tone is mentioned often and is usually used to reference class or character. In point, skin color is used to show where someone comes from and the type of life they live.

“The feminine ideal during the Han period for women of the court was almost unearthly white, white skin. . .” ran an article in the Global Post.

Unlike in the USA, skin tone in China has virtually nothing to do with race. Generally speaking, this is a culture that has been virtually mono-racial for large swaths of it’s history. In the West we use labels like black, white, brown, yellow, red to express race, but skin tone does not divide people up in China in the same way. With the exception the Uighurs in the west, most of the cultural sub-units in China are of Mongoloid stock. So when talking about skin color here it’s mostly a discussion of what shade someone is within the bounds of this broad racial grouping.

Instead of indicating race, skin color is directly connected to class.

“If your skin is dark it is like you work in the fields,” my companion explained.

Working in the fields = poor.

“A woman should always have fair skin,” a Chinese lady was quoted as saying in a NY Times article. “Otherwise people will think you’re a peasant.”

In a society that is now so vehemently infused with the pursuit of riches and status, nobody wants to think of themselves as looking like a peasant. It is the poor who are thought of as working outside doing manual labor. These are also the people who are thought of as having darker skin — either through being tanned by the sun or as a result of a downward flow of genes through socio/ sexual selection.

This does not mean that people with dark skin can’t rise in China or that people with light skin have an easy ride. This isn’t so absolute: there are very rich and powerful Chinese people with dark skin and there are whiteys cooking tofu in the streets. Rather, it just means that people with light colored skin are associated with wealth and high social standing, and are therefore held as a model for emulation and, by extension, beauty.

Though I do not want to underplay the role that this perspective has in fulfilling it’s own prophecy: skin tone is one of many determinants that will factor into an individual’s success. Therefore, there are other reasons behind why the Chinese aspire to have white skin that goes beyond beauty.

“My future employers like white skin more,” a Hong Kong student was quoted as having said in an article on skin whitening.

This statement just about sums it up.

—————

“Oh my baby’s skin is so dark, my baby’s skin is so dark,” a concerned Chinese mother spoke. “My baby goes out in the sun so much and plays. I can’t take a picture of her now because her skin is so dark.”

She didn’t care that her baby had a big bruise under its eye and no hair, she just cared that its skin was dark.

————–

My wife and her co-teacher had cut out three pictures of babies of a book to serve as educational aid for their class. One was of a Caucasian baby, another of a Chinese baby, and the third was of a black baby.

Three other teachers at the school came into the room they were working in, one after the other. Without prior discussion and independently of each other they all said the exact same thing:

“The black baby is so ugly.”

—————

I was sitting in a cafe drinking a cup of coffee when a very fashionable young woman walked in. She was completely clad in black, her jacket had fashionable metal studs sticking up out of it, she was wearing lens-less glasses, and her skin was corpse pale — of course. I looked over her arms, they sparkled white. On her face was a sort of clown-like layer of white foundation — but I’m unsure if it was really needed. It was impressive to look upon someone who cultivated their body as though it were a piece of art; it was frightening to think of what she had to do to make it that way.

“Your skin is very white,” I complimented her in Chinese.

“I know,” she bluntly responded in English.

It was a matter of fact: this girl was white white.

“How do you make your skin so white?” I asked her.

She told me simply that she covers herself in cream and drinks some kind of concoction — which, at that time, I had no clue even existed.

Keeping skin white, a full time obsession, a national psychosis
When the sun is warm and bright in China it is not uncommon for people to abscond beneath umbrellas. On sunny days in the prime of summer the parks are often empty until evening, and people seem to avoid going outside when they don’t have to — and when they do they often make sure the sun can’t touch them by hiding beneath umbrellas or staying covered in clothing. Not getting tanned is some sort of national psychosis here.

Going to the beach in China is an unexpectedly humorous experience. While most people are scantly clad and swimming there is a very visible minority that are conspicuously overly clothed. Not only are there facekinis covering people’s heads like florescent colored ski masks, but it is not uncommon to see Chinese women in long sleeve shirts, under big sun hats, decked out in sun glasses, gloves, skirts, and tights. Some even wear medical masks. What is interesting is that this is not only a habit for fashion conscious women, as men get in on the act too, and they can be seen walking in the sand wearing full office attire. Apparently, this is all to keep the sun from disfiguring their complexions — something this culture seems very serious about.

But, thankfully, for young women the “be as pale as possible” fashion ethic does not trump the “show as much leg as you can” trend. The ankle to the top of the thigh is fair game for public showing, and, by extension, getting sun light. At least there is some degree of sense withheld in this anti-suntan mania. But, rest assured, any body part exposed exposed to the Chinese sun is probably salved up with sunblock that does not only reflect away UV rays but is equipped with built-in skin whitening agents.

Skin whitening products
They have names like Extreme Bright Brightening Gel, White Swan, Snow White, and Fair and Lovely. They are skin whitening products, and it’s estimated that 50% of Chinese people between the ages of 25 and 34 have used them in some form or another. Needless to say, skin lightening in East Asia is a multi-billion dollar per year business.

The pharmacies here are full of complexion lightening creams, gels, lotions, sprays, and even skin whitening pills. What is even more is that so-called skin lightening chemicals are added to many other types of skin care product, like soap, lotion, and sun screen. So not only does sun block here prevent skin damage from UV rays and lotion sooth the skin, but many of these products have agents which are suppose to lighten it as well. It is now actually somewhat challenging to find skin care products without whiteners.

But this is nothing new: the Chinese have been finding and coming up with agents to lightening skin tone for ages. Ligustrum, Chinese hawthorn, and Cinnamomum subavenium are herbs that have often been used in skin whitening concoctions.

There are also certain foods that people are told to eat if they desire lighter colored skin. During the Ming Dynasty it was written in a Chinese medicine manual that consuming “three white soup,” which is made from white peony root, white atractylodes, white tuckahoe, and liquorice will make the skin whiter. Another remedy called for grinding up the pearl from seashells into a powder and swallowing it. Other foods, such as peas, pearl barley, lily root, soybean milk, asparagus, white fungus, white turnips, walnuts, and almonds, have also been recommended throughout Chinese history as having skin lightening properties if consumed regularly.

How skin whiteners work
There are two main types of skin whitening product: one works by suppressing melanin production in the body, the other works by sluicing off dead skin cells, revealing the supple, lighter layer beneath.

Melanin production can be lowered by applying topical cremes and lotions or through ingesting medication and, to a lesser extent, various types of food and herbs. Most skin-lightening treatments which aim to reduce melanin do so by inhibiting tyrosinase, a copper containing enzyme. This is often done through applying or ingesting a mix of hydroquinone, arbutin (which is found naturally in the leaves of mulberries, blueberries, and cranberries), Kojic acid (a byproduct of sake production), Azelaic acid, Vitamin C, and a host of other substances. But mercury generally has a better effect.

Mercury has been used as a skin lightener for many years all around the world. Though banned in many countries it continues being added to skin whitening products, particularly those manufactured and sold in China. Back in 2000, 36 skin whitening creams were tested by researchers at a Hong Kong hospital. Eight of these creams were found to of have mercury levels that exceeded the U.S. Food and Drug Administration safety limits, with two having levels between 9,000 and 65,000 times this amount. All of the cremes that contained mercury were manufactured in China and Taiwan, which lead to researchers to conclude that many other skin whitening creams in these countries more than likely also contained high amounts of this toxin.

When one of the researchers phoned one of the suppliers of a toxic skin whitening cream, the representative was infamously recorded as stating, “What is wrong with a little mercury in the cream, as long as it can make ladies beautiful.”

The irony of this is the fact that mercury can accumulate in the skin, and eventually have a darkening effect if continuously applied over an extended period of time.

The second method of lightening skin is done by removing the top layer of skin, which is where most of the melanin is contained. So by removing this dead layer a person can make their complexion a little more fair. This is often done through the use of alpha-hydoxy acids, which are applied topically and used to scrub away the dead, melanin rich skin cells. Cryosurgery, which uses liquid nitrogen to destroy the top layer of skin and cause the skin to regenerate, is another method of melanin removal. Lasers can also be used.

白富美 White, Rich, and Beautiful
Living and traveling in China is to be brought face to face with the fact that skin tone is a major factor in determining beauty, class, and status. Though there are no hard coded rules here, social preferences err towards individuals with light skin, and the culture’s ingrained outlook that white = rich and dark = poor is continuously self-fulfilled.

It was reported in the NY Times that two thirds of men in Hong Kong prefer fairer skinned women, while half the women who participated in the survey stated that they want their men whiter.

Social ascension based on qualities of physical attractiveness is not something that is rare in any country in this world, and a culture’s “attractive” genes are ever being pooled upwards.

China is a country that is now obsessed with wealth, power, social ascension, opportunity, and beauty. This entire packaged is often wrapped up in a single symbol:

White skin.

I bluntly questioned a young Chinese woman about her culture’s white skin obsession. “Why do you want white skin?” I asked her.

She deferred to the translating program on her mobile phone, and after punching a few buttons a satisfied look crept over her face. She handed the device to me, and on it was written:

“White skin removes all ugliness.”

 

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Bai fu mei: China’s obsession with white skin and ‘trophy’ partners may stem from genetic mutation 15,000 years ago, scientists say

New international study led by Chinese team finds the diverging complexions of Han Chinese and native Africans and Southeast Asians was caused by a mutation of the OCA2 gene 15,224 years ago

Stephen ChenUPDATED : Friday, 5 Aug 2016, 5:01PM


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Chinese people’s preference for paler or white-coloured skin originates from a “defective” gene, according to an international study led by Chinese scientists.

Men in the country can often seem obsessed with fair skin, especially in a partner, while many women have in the past favoured a Caucasian or “trophy” husband. This has long been dismissed as a social, economic or cultural problem, but new evidence suggests it may stem from a genetic predisposition.

READ MORE: Thai advert for skin lightening pills sparks outrage with tagline ‘white makes you a winner’
For thousands of years, China was ruled by pale-looking nobles in the north, and the invasion of Europeans in its more modern history further added to the perception that a white skin colouring was somehow superior.




But the new study found that the phenomenon could have a biological explanation dating back to prehistoric times as the relatively light skin colouring of the Han Chinese may derive from the same gene held responsible for a number of diseases.

READ MORE: Chinese scientists edit genes to produce artificial sperm capable of creating ‘army of half-cloned mice’
The researchers from China, the United States and Europe analysed genetic samples from more than 1,000 individuals and found that the fairer skin of the Han Chinese in comparison to people from Africa and Southeast Asia was caused by a mutation of the OCA2 gene.

One of the gene’s main functions is to help transport tyrosine, an amino acid used as a raw material in synthesising melanin, a pigment that determines skin colouration .



The mutated version of the gene has been linked to many diseases, such as albinism, acute eye inflammation, Angelman syndrome (characterised by mental disability and jerky movements), learning difficulties and obsessive eating, to name but a few.

READ MORE: ‘Super puppies’ created in DNA manipulation: Chinese mainland scientists turn genetic editing into reality
The team of researchers were led by Professor Su Bing at the Kunming Institute of Zoology in Yunnan province, and Meng Anming from Tsinghua University in Beijing.


They estimated that the mutated genes which led to the fairer skin of the Han Chinese occurred some 15,224 years ago. This happened after that group’s ancestors migrated up north from Southwest China and Southeast Asia about 25,000 – 30,000 years ago.



The first pale-skinned people may have been mistaken for sickly individuals by other members of their clan or tribe, who were predominantly dark-skinned.

READ MORE: Actress Fan Bingbing on becoming the new ‘empress of China’
This dark colouring would have served as a natural form of defence “against the harmful effects of UV radiation, including protection against sunburn and folate destruction”, according to the team’s paper published in the latest issue of the journal Molecular Biology and Evolution.

But in north China, which experiences less sunshine than other parts of the country, the whiter skin allowed the body to absorb more sunlight to prevent a deficiency of vitamin D. A shortage of this can lead to fragile or brittle bones, cardiovascular problems and cognitive impairments.



According to the laws of natural selection, those with lighter skin were fitter for survival in the new environment. They may also have enjoyed other physical advantages such as being taller with stronger bones and perhaps a greater intelligence, studies show.

Another interesting discovery of the latest study was that the same OCA2 mutation was not detected among Europeans, who also underwent a shift to paler skin after the first modern humans moved out of Africa.

But the evolution of people’s skin colour in Europe took place on a completely different set of genes such as SLC24A5 and SLC45A2, according to other studies.



The genetic difference between Han Chinese and Europeans implied “independent skin-lightening in both East Asians and Europeans”, the scientists said.

But they said other environmental and biological factors could not be ruled out, either.

“Dietary changes and/or sexual selection … may also have created selective pressure in skin lightening,” they wrote.

And that “selective pressure” has shown scant sign of easing up.

A quick pore through a Chinese search engine quickly reveals what many modern Chinese woman aspire to be: Bai-fu-mei. This portmanteau of three Chinese characters - “white”, “rich”, “beautiful” - puts white first, even though in today’s China, wealth is for many the most desirable quality.

A study by market research company Mintel last year found that more than 95 per cent of Chinese women aged 20 to 49 had used facial masks to whiten their face - or three times as many as in Britain.

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Obsession
By Wade Shepard @vagabondjourney

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“What? You like old skin!?!” a young Chinese guy exclaimed to me in English.

“Old,” was the word he used for dark. I’m not sure if this was a language error or if it was a direct translation of some pejorative Chinese term for dark skin, but I answered in the affirmative anyway.

“Yes, I like old skin.”

Of course we were talking about China’s deeply ingrained obsession with white skin. My companion then pointed across to one of his classmates and told me outright that she had dark skin and was not very beautiful. She agreed. I tried to disagree.

“In your country people have lots of different color skins,” he tried to justify my apparent tastelessness, “so you think all color skin is beautiful. Here in China, everybody has yellow skin, so we think white skin is beautiful.”

This was an understatement.

The Chinese — and East Asians in general — have an all out obsession with light colored skin. This isn’t the direct result of Western influence dictated by Hollywood, advertising, hot Caucasian chicks, or anything like this. No, the people here are not trying to look “American;” their goal is to look like fair skinned Chinese people.



White skin is a very long-honed determinant of beauty in China, and spans back to a time long before the first white dude ever set foot in North America. To read through old Chinese literature you’ll find that skin tone is mentioned often and is usually used to reference class or character. In point, skin color is used to show where someone comes from and the type of life they live.

“The feminine ideal during the Han period for women of the court was almost unearthly white, white skin. . .” ran an article in the Global Post.

Unlike in the USA, skin tone in China has virtually nothing to do with race. Generally speaking, this is a culture that has been virtually mono-racial for large swaths of it’s history. In the West we use labels like black, white, brown, yellow, red to express race, but skin tone does not divide people up in China in the same way. With the exception the Uighurs in the west, most of the cultural sub-units in China are of Mongoloid stock. So when talking about skin color here it’s mostly a discussion of what shade someone is within the bounds of this broad racial grouping.

Instead of indicating race, skin color is directly connected to class.

“If your skin is dark it is like you work in the fields,” my companion explained.

Working in the fields = poor.

“A woman should always have fair skin,” a Chinese lady was quoted as saying in a NY Times article. “Otherwise people will think you’re a peasant.”

In a society that is now so vehemently infused with the pursuit of riches and status, nobody wants to think of themselves as looking like a peasant. It is the poor who are thought of as working outside doing manual labor. These are also the people who are thought of as having darker skin — either through being tanned by the sun or as a result of a downward flow of genes through socio/ sexual selection.

This does not mean that people with dark skin can’t rise in China or that people with light skin have an easy ride. This isn’t so absolute: there are very rich and powerful Chinese people with dark skin and there are whiteys cooking tofu in the streets. Rather, it just means that people with light colored skin are associated with wealth and high social standing, and are therefore held as a model for emulation and, by extension, beauty.

Though I do not want to underplay the role that this perspective has in fulfilling it’s own prophecy: skin tone is one of many determinants that will factor into an individual’s success. Therefore, there are other reasons behind why the Chinese aspire to have white skin that goes beyond beauty.

“My future employers like white skin more,” a Hong Kong student was quoted as having said in an article on skin whitening.

This statement just about sums it up.

—————

“Oh my baby’s skin is so dark, my baby’s skin is so dark,” a concerned Chinese mother spoke. “My baby goes out in the sun so much and plays. I can’t take a picture of her now because her skin is so dark.”

She didn’t care that her baby had a big bruise under its eye and no hair, she just cared that its skin was dark.

————–

My wife and her co-teacher had cut out three pictures of babies of a book to serve as educational aid for their class. One was of a Caucasian baby, another of a Chinese baby, and the third was of a black baby.

Three other teachers at the school came into the room they were working in, one after the other. Without prior discussion and independently of each other they all said the exact same thing:

“The black baby is so ugly.”

—————

I was sitting in a cafe drinking a cup of coffee when a very fashionable young woman walked in. She was completely clad in black, her jacket had fashionable metal studs sticking up out of it, she was wearing lens-less glasses, and her skin was corpse pale — of course. I looked over her arms, they sparkled white. On her face was a sort of clown-like layer of white foundation — but I’m unsure if it was really needed. It was impressive to look upon someone who cultivated their body as though it were a piece of art; it was frightening to think of what she had to do to make it that way.

“Your skin is very white,” I complimented her in Chinese.

“I know,” she bluntly responded in English.

It was a matter of fact: this girl was white white.

“How do you make your skin so white?” I asked her.

She told me simply that she covers herself in cream and drinks some kind of concoction — which, at that time, I had no clue even existed.

Keeping skin white, a full time obsession, a national psychosis
When the sun is warm and bright in China it is not uncommon for people to abscond beneath umbrellas. On sunny days in the prime of summer the parks are often empty until evening, and people seem to avoid going outside when they don’t have to — and when they do they often make sure the sun can’t touch them by hiding beneath umbrellas or staying covered in clothing. Not getting tanned is some sort of national psychosis here.

Going to the beach in China is an unexpectedly humorous experience. While most people are scantly clad and swimming there is a very visible minority that are conspicuously overly clothed. Not only are there facekinis covering people’s heads like florescent colored ski masks, but it is not uncommon to see Chinese women in long sleeve shirts, under big sun hats, decked out in sun glasses, gloves, skirts, and tights. Some even wear medical masks. What is interesting is that this is not only a habit for fashion conscious women, as men get in on the act too, and they can be seen walking in the sand wearing full office attire. Apparently, this is all to keep the sun from disfiguring their complexions — something this culture seems very serious about.

But, thankfully, for young women the “be as pale as possible” fashion ethic does not trump the “show as much leg as you can” trend. The ankle to the top of the thigh is fair game for public showing, and, by extension, getting sun light. At least there is some degree of sense withheld in this anti-suntan mania. But, rest assured, any body part exposed exposed to the Chinese sun is probably salved up with sunblock that does not only reflect away UV rays but is equipped with built-in skin whitening agents.

Skin whitening products
They have names like Extreme Bright Brightening Gel, White Swan, Snow White, and Fair and Lovely. They are skin whitening products, and it’s estimated that 50% of Chinese people between the ages of 25 and 34 have used them in some form or another. Needless to say, skin lightening in East Asia is a multi-billion dollar per year business.

The pharmacies here are full of complexion lightening creams, gels, lotions, sprays, and even skin whitening pills. What is even more is that so-called skin lightening chemicals are added to many other types of skin care product, like soap, lotion, and sun screen. So not only does sun block here prevent skin damage from UV rays and lotion sooth the skin, but many of these products have agents which are suppose to lighten it as well. It is now actually somewhat challenging to find skin care products without whiteners.

But this is nothing new: the Chinese have been finding and coming up with agents to lightening skin tone for ages. Ligustrum, Chinese hawthorn, and Cinnamomum subavenium are herbs that have often been used in skin whitening concoctions.

There are also certain foods that people are told to eat if they desire lighter colored skin. During the Ming Dynasty it was written in a Chinese medicine manual that consuming “three white soup,” which is made from white peony root, white atractylodes, white tuckahoe, and liquorice will make the skin whiter. Another remedy called for grinding up the pearl from seashells into a powder and swallowing it. Other foods, such as peas, pearl barley, lily root, soybean milk, asparagus, white fungus, white turnips, walnuts, and almonds, have also been recommended throughout Chinese history as having skin lightening properties if consumed regularly.

How skin whiteners work
There are two main types of skin whitening product: one works by suppressing melanin production in the body, the other works by sluicing off dead skin cells, revealing the supple, lighter layer beneath.

Melanin production can be lowered by applying topical cremes and lotions or through ingesting medication and, to a lesser extent, various types of food and herbs. Most skin-lightening treatments which aim to reduce melanin do so by inhibiting tyrosinase, a copper containing enzyme. This is often done through applying or ingesting a mix of hydroquinone, arbutin (which is found naturally in the leaves of mulberries, blueberries, and cranberries), Kojic acid (a byproduct of sake production), Azelaic acid, Vitamin C, and a host of other substances. But mercury generally has a better effect.

Mercury has been used as a skin lightener for many years all around the world. Though banned in many countries it continues being added to skin whitening products, particularly those manufactured and sold in China. Back in 2000, 36 skin whitening creams were tested by researchers at a Hong Kong hospital. Eight of these creams were found to of have mercury levels that exceeded the U.S. Food and Drug Administration safety limits, with two having levels between 9,000 and 65,000 times this amount. All of the cremes that contained mercury were manufactured in China and Taiwan, which lead to researchers to conclude that many other skin whitening creams in these countries more than likely also contained high amounts of this toxin.

When one of the researchers phoned one of the suppliers of a toxic skin whitening cream, the representative was infamously recorded as stating, “What is wrong with a little mercury in the cream, as long as it can make ladies beautiful.”

The irony of this is the fact that mercury can accumulate in the skin, and eventually have a darkening effect if continuously applied over an extended period of time.

The second method of lightening skin is done by removing the top layer of skin, which is where most of the melanin is contained. So by removing this dead layer a person can make their complexion a little more fair. This is often done through the use of alpha-hydoxy acids, which are applied topically and used to scrub away the dead, melanin rich skin cells. Cryosurgery, which uses liquid nitrogen to destroy the top layer of skin and cause the skin to regenerate, is another method of melanin removal. Lasers can also be used.

白富美 White, Rich, and Beautiful
Living and traveling in China is to be brought face to face with the fact that skin tone is a major factor in determining beauty, class, and status. Though there are no hard coded rules here, social preferences err towards individuals with light skin, and the culture’s ingrained outlook that white = rich and dark = poor is continuously self-fulfilled.

It was reported in the NY Times that two thirds of men in Hong Kong prefer fairer skinned women, while half the women who participated in the survey stated that they want their men whiter.

Social ascension based on qualities of physical attractiveness is not something that is rare in any country in this world, and a culture’s “attractive” genes are ever being pooled upwards.

China is a country that is now obsessed with wealth, power, social ascension, opportunity, and beauty. This entire packaged is often wrapped up in a single symbol:

White skin.


I bluntly questioned a young Chinese woman about her culture’s white skin obsession. “Why do you want white skin?” I asked her.

She deferred to the translating program on her mobile phone, and after punching a few buttons a satisfied look crept over her face. She handed the device to me, and on it was written:

“White skin removes all ugliness.”

what u've posted is a red herring.

Chinese are indeed obessed with fair skin too- and that obession is often about getting more fair then we already are.

The difference between us and you- is that the vast majority of us are already born with fair skin, while u dark-skinned folks can only dream about getting our skin tone.

In other words, Chinese are merely enhancing what we were born with, whilst Indians have to go after the opposite.

So live with your skin colour inferiority complex.




PS. there also exists the difference in reasons for the obession of fair skin. If you've researched the history of skin colour in India, you will know that black skin was considered the ideal standard of beauty and attractiveness. Hindu goddesses were always depicted as having pitch-black skin. It is only after the arrival of the Europeans in India that the the preference in skin colour started to change.

On the other hand in China, fair skin as the ideal for beauty has existed since the dawn of Chinese civillization, since dark skin was seen as being of low social status as it was associated with being doing laborious work under the sun.