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Washingtonpost: Straight out of the Nazi playbook’: Hindu try to engineer ‘genius’ babies in India

You're not even trying.


Dietrich Eckart, who developed the ideology of a "genius superman", based on writings by Lanz von Liebenfels, was a member of the Nazi party and one of ideologues. These ideas also took root in the Soviet Union in the form of "New Soviet Man".

Ergo, "Straight out of the Nazi playbook".

Also as pointed out by the writer,

Although the RSS had next to nothing participation in the Indian freedom struggle, and even though it had decided to support the British and pick Muslims, Christians and the seculars as the true enemy of India, the sting of being a “weak Hindu”, a physically inferior collection of people has never stopped hurting the Sangh.

Inspired by Swami Vivekananda’s calls for martial glory to be found in a recreated industrial Hinduism, the original RSS stalwarts found a political validity in racial resurrection championed by Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich.

And even now, a racially pure search for homeland or creation of one along racially/communally pure lines appeals to the RSS and is at the heart of its ideology, and that is what explains the political admiration that many in the Sangh have for Zionist Israel, even though Jews were the main targets of the Nazi regime.​

Read: Dietrich Eckart, New Soviet man
The RSS wanting an All Hindu India-is a very similar demand to the historical demand for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Try not to ride the moral high horse through this one.
What is true is that historically the RSS looked up to the Axis powers and that is absolutely detestable. What is also true is that- They supported a side that was at war with the British- their masters and oppressors. Does this make it Ok? -nope. Still detestable and nasty.
As per this BS pseudo science Hindu eugenics being equal to the cruel and insane Nazi stream of thinking and massive genocide- based on an opinion article and no fact -is very absurd.
The admiration for Israel stems from their firm stance against terror, despite all the odds being against them.
The "racially pure" agenda in India is unheard of.

If the RSS did in fact fund an operation to promote fair-skinned Indians ( which I still doubt ) - it is both disgusting and hilarious by all means- but is it some Indian Hindu Neo-Nazi movement? I don't think so.
 
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You're not even trying.

Dietrich Eckart, who developed the ideology of a "genius superman", based on writings by Lanz von Liebenfels, was a member of the Nazi party and one of its ideologues. These ideas also took root in the Soviet Union in the form of "New Soviet Man". Ergo, "Straight out of the Nazi playbook".

Also as pointed out by the writer,

Although the RSS had next to nothing participation in the Indian freedom struggle, and even though it had decided to support the British and pick Muslims, Christians and the seculars as the true enemy of India, the sting of being a “weak Hindu”, a physically inferior collection of people has never stopped hurting the Sangh.

Inspired by Swami Vivekananda’s calls for martial glory to be found in a recreated industrial Hinduism, the original RSS stalwarts found a political validity in racial resurrection championed by Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich.

And even now, a racially pure search for homeland or creation of one along racially/communally pure lines appeals to the RSS and is at the heart of its ideology, and that is what explains the political admiration that many in the Sangh have for Zionist Israel, even though Jews were the main targets of the Nazi regime.​

Read: Dietrich Eckart, New Soviet man




Read my earlier post,

Again, this is the statement of Dr Hitesh Jani, national convener of Arogya Bharati:​

The parents may have lower IQ, with a poor educational background, but their baby can be extremely bright. If the proper procedure is followed, babies of dark-skinned parents with lesser height can have fair complexion and grow taller.
Explain how is this not discrimination? Why does a dark-skinned child needs to be fair? or tall? What part of Indic science promotes this view? By defending what is clearly wrong, you are demeaning million of people on this planet. Don't defend these positions. Please. There is no religious subtext here, no India vs Pakistan. There are dark-skinned people in Pakistan. This is a question of basic humanity. (Source)​

I pleaded with @Samudra Manthan so we wouldn't have to hash out these ugly arguments. I didn't want this debate to be about religion, country or a match of egos since dark-skinned people live across South Asia so you're not doing me, a Pakistani, any favours by rejecting these ideologies. Sadly, people will argue in favour of something that is clearly wrong simply out of tribal instincts or whatever other rationale they may give themselves.
I completely agree with you on this. These ideologies are hurtful and harmful. I detest and reject them completely.
Eugenics in general are very controversial.
But are they Nazism or even close? Nope.
Like I said this is a lowly ideology that plagues all of Asia.
 
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I dont think it is related to the racism issue, it merely the sense of extreme inferiority complex within Hindus specially when they look at Pakistanis. They want their next generation to be taller and fair skinned.
Hindus want Indians to be taller and fair skin like Pakistani? That I can understand
 
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Hindus want Indians to be taller and fair skin like Pakistani? That I can understand
Yes some were making a huge fuss over it when one of our Pakistani friend here mentioned the word "BLACK INDIAN"
 
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Triggered. :partay:

And this is what losing looks like, i.e., ad hominem, name calling, etc.
I didn't say you are an ***, but I said you are pulling stuff out of your ***. There is a difference. :partay:

This is what you said:

Who has been attacked or hurt for you to cry discrimination.
Hint: This is not an example of "positive discrimination". Try again. :D

This is a positive discrimination as in preferences and choices and no one has been hurt. So your argument is nothing but foolishness.

Denial.

You can't project your personal delusions on others. Refer to the sources below along with personal accounts from South Asian (Tamil, Bangladeshi, etc.) and African women.

Oh cmon, I can get you articles on any topic in this world and right now there is a white backlash going on because whites are feeling victimised all over the world. As I said people have a preference and a choice and as long as no one is being materially or socially deprived you can keep carrying your shade card and cry victim and no one will give a toss.

https://newsone.com/3260417/americans-think-discrimination-against-white-people-a-huge-problem/

https://www.inc.com/jt-odonnell/this-white-male-cant-get-hired-should-we-feel-sorry-for-him.html

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/03/diddys-revolt-tv-sued-discrimination-white-people/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22401...ng-for-new-recruits-from-bmelgbt-communities/

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What is the reason for dark-skinned parents aspiring to have fair children?

May be they fancy a lighter shade, may be a quirk.

It is our business because we are part of the free market of ideas hence I'm debating these nasty ideals in open. Welcome to the free market of ideas.
It is not your business to ask private citizens why they choose something or other. They owe you nothing. But yeah, if you are just debating ideas or ideals then sure. There is all kind of garbage which goes on in name of discussion and this is one more.

No doubt "Dr." Hitesh Jani is a fraud who sells "scientific knowledge" while imposing his delusional views Colourism/Shadeism on others.

He is a doctor of medicine because Ayurveda is legally recognised as valid system of medicine in India. So again you have no basis for your arguments and all you are coming across is as an ignoramus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996581/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ong-foreign-students/articleshow/52883994.cms

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LOL. Those children would be considered "fair" and that is what we are talking about here.

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This isn't unique to RSS/Indians. Iranians who speak IE language want to look as close to their linguistic ancestors as possible. They for some reason also admire Nazis. It's quite pointless though, that ship have sailed long time ago when Aryans decided to migrate south.

But RSS shouldn't fool couples who look out for fair and tall babies. Especially the fair part is 100% lie. There is only one way and that is to breed with people with fair skin and european features, like Germans.
 
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This isn't unique to RSS/Indians. Iranians who speak IE language want to look as close to their linguistic ancestors as possible. They for some reason also admire Nazis. It's quite pointless though, that ship have sailed long time ago when Aryans decided to migrate south.

But RSS shouldn't fool couples who look out for fair and tall babies. Especially the fair part is 100% lie. There is only one way and that is to breed with people with fair skin and european features, like Germans.

Inna nu das aloo de chilke malan avde mun te. Goray chittay ho jan gaye. :lol:
 
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I am not quoting any Maxmueller. I am quoting Sadhguru and my own and societal understanding of our Gods. I am more than happy if we have 1200 million gods rather than limit ourselves to just 33 crore gods. I do not suffer from a monotheist complex and I have no care if God is one or a trillion trillion.

Sir in sanatana dharma there is no living god. It worships nature in different forms. 33 Koti devta is representation of that. I have heard one speech of sadguru mentioning 33 types of devta. I will provide that link after doing some google.
 
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Sir in sanatana dharma there is no living god. It worships nature in different forms. 33 Koti devta is representation of that. I have heard one speech of sadguru mentioning 33 types of devta. I will provide that link after doing some google.

You know what it is you who is using Maxmueller and Christian terminology. Living god/dead god, what nonsense is this? First understand the concept of God in Hinduism and only then come here to debate.
 
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You know what it is you who is using Maxmueller and Christian terminology. Living god/dead god, what nonsense is this? First understand the concept of God in Hinduism and only then come here to debate.

Bro, word you are using 'Hinduism' is not even exist as religion, It is "sanatan dharma". None of guiding books have word as Hindu. :) Even prayers we chant on daily basis is for creator or world.
I rest my case
 
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Bro, word you are using 'Hinduism' is not even exist as religion, It is "sanatan dharma". None of guiding books have word as Hindu. :) Even prayers we chant on daily basis is for creator or world.
I rest my case

Hello welcome to 21st century. Hinduism is the new name for Sanatan Dharma and that is how it is known all throughout the world. If you must know there is no word called Sanatan Dharma also in any of our scriptures. We only knew Dharma and explain it as Sanatan. You lost your case.
 
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Hello welcome to 21st century. Hinduism is the new name for Sanatan Dharma and that is how it is known all throughout the world. If you must know there is no word called Sanatan Dharma also in any of our scriptures. We only knew Dharma and explain it as Sanatan. You lost your case.

LOL! I lost case for words which exists in Vedas and you won case for things which does not exists :D

Chalo party do
 
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