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Never going to happen, while Turkey will always be (in her favor) an invaluable ally, Sultan Erdogan is not.
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So do you have blonde hair and blue eyes or ginger hair?In Pakistan we have blonde people with blue eyes.
We have ginger haired people.
So do you have blonde hair and blue eyes or ginger hair?
Maybe one of those but not blonde and ginger hair together looooolSo do you have blonde hair and blue eyes or ginger hair?
But Erdogan saying he wants to buy Russian jet fighters,engines,submarines and RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS ARE WELCOME IN TURKEY,is ok,huh?
Maybe one of those but not blonde and ginger hair together loooool
Usual crying:We are waiting for Type214TN class Submarines since 2015
USA did not sell PATRIOT Air Defense System to Turkiye
even USA doesnt sell F-16V to Turkiye
even I am not talking about F-35 blockage since 2015
France blocked EUROSAM to work with Turkiye to develop Air Defense System
Usual crying:
"USA did not sell Patriot,we want Russia weapon,we are good ally,but you are bad ally :'( "
blah blah
I was talking about him specificallyI do. I also qualify as a Pakistani.
Well that's what your idiotic rants need. Because you never stop ranting when people talk to you in a serious and respectful manner.same stupid reply from you
The article doesn't inform who is proposing the idea in Washington right now. It mentioned Senator Graham did in 2019 but who is doing it now in 2022 over FInland and Sweden bids? The article is 80% composed over the views over Michigan Professor Suny who I doubt represents in any official capacity as the term "Washington" implies.Could Turkey Be Expelled From NATO Over Blocking Finland, Sweden?
Turkey's hard stance against Finland and Sweden's bid for membership has revived doubts over whether the country truly belongs to NATO.www.newsweek.com
Turkey's refusal to accept Finland and Sweden's bid to join NATO has triggered a spat within the alliance otherwise united over the two Nordic countries' prospective entry.
On Thursday, Turkey blocked the start of talks around Finland and Sweden's membership over complaints that the two countries have too lax an attitude towards the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) and the Gülenist movement, two groups Turkey identifies as terrorist organizations.
Ankara has accused Stockholm and Helsinki of hosting suspects belonging to the two groups, but the two countries have rejected accusations of supporting the Kurdish militants—the PKK is also recognized as a terrorist group by the European Union—as well as refused to extradite any suspects, as requested by Turkey.
The situation appears to be at a standstill.
Ankara's objection could prove a real challenge towards a possible Finland and Sweden entry into the alliance, as NATO requires unanimous approval from all its members to accept new members. So how's NATO going to respond to a member state that once again is proving an inconvenient, uneasy ally?
Turkey has blocked the start of talks over Finland and Sweden's NATO membership. Above, Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan delivers a speech during his party's group meeting at the Turkish Grand National Assembly (TGNA) in Ankara, on May 18, 2022.GETTY
Could NATO Expel Turkey?
It's not the first time there's talks of kicking Turkey out of the alliance.
The idea was first suggested in 2016 when Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan cracked down on the opposition after a failed coup. It was then brought up again in 2019 when Turkey invaded northeastern Syria. NATO allies reacted with horror and concern at the humanitarian crisis unfolding in the country, with Sweden and Finland imposing sanctions on Ankara that are still in place.
At the time, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham suggested Turkey's membership in NATO should have been suspended, if Turkish troops attacked the Kurdish forces who had helped the U.S. destroy the ISIS Caliphate.
But the North Atlantic Treaty regulating NATO does not have an option to suspend or even expel members. But there's the possibility to do something to the same effect when a member state persistently violates the principles contained in the pact—by failing to safeguard the freedom of its people, the country's democracy and the rule of law. In that case, NATO members can unanimously decide to stop assisting that ally.
But would NATO go as far in response to Turkey's refusal to approve Finland and Sweden's bid for membership?
An Inescapable Strategic Partner
American historian and University of Michigan Professor of Political Science Ronald Grigor Suny thinks that it's highly unlikely NATO would take such a drastic move that would completely alienate such a strategic ally.
"Turkey has played an amazing strong hand all through the Cold War and at present because of its geographical location," Suny told Newsweek. "So its placement in Istanbul along the straits in Anatolia, south of Russia and north of the Middle East, has made it far more important a strategic partner than a lot of states of greater population or greater importance in other ways."
Suny thinks Erdoğan is well aware of the value Turkey brings to the alliance and is playing this card to obtain something out of Finland and Sweden's membership?
An Inescapable Strategic Partner
American historian and University of Michigan Professor of Political Science Ronald Grigor Suny thinks that it's highly unlikely NATO would take such a drastic move that would completely alienate such a strategic ally.
"Turkey has played an amazing strong hand all through the Cold War and at present because of its geographical location," Suny told Newsweek. "So its placement in Istanbul along the straits in Anatolia, south of Russia and north of the Middle East, has made it far more important a strategic partner than a lot of states of greater population or greater importance in other ways."
Suny thinks Erdoğan is well aware of the value Turkey brings to the alliance and is playing this card to obtain something out of Finland and Sweden's membership.
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"[Erdoğan] isn't that serious about this," Suny says. "He will eventually agree, I think, that Finland and Sweden should be members. But he'll get something out of it, to get certain arms from the United States, or certain concessions."
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"He has many, many grievances. And the main one is that he doesn't want to be criticized about his domestic policies, his arrest of dissidents, of Osman Kavala and other prominent people, or his treatment of the Kurds. So if the West keeps quiet, as it most often does, about the atrocities and the horrors and the repression of the Erdoğan regime, he'll get what he wants."
Talking at a press conference on Thursday, NATO's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said NATO is in close contact with Finland, Sweden and Turkey regarding the concerns raised by Ankara over the PKK.
"I don't think it will be helpful if I go into the specifics of all those conversations, but of course we're addressing the concerns that Turkey has expressed," Stoltenberg said, answering a question from a reporter. "Because when an ally, an important ally as Turkey, raises security concerns, raises issues, then, of course, the only way to deal with that is to sit down and find ways to find a common ground and an agreement on how to move forward."
Would Russia Benefit From Turkey's objection?
Turkey's objection to Finland and Sweden's entry into NATO appears to play into what Russian president Vladimir Putin wants, seeing as the Kremlin has threatened both countries against joining the alliance. But Suny said Erdoğan's historically uneasy alliance with Putin has nothing to do with the Turkish president's refusal now.
"Erdoğan and Putin are both realists. They're unsentimental about politics," Suny said. "They'll do what's necessary to enhance their own state position. For Erdoğan, that happens to include the repression of the Kurds that is domestically within first and within his interior, as well as in Syria or anywhere else. And the Russians, you know, couldn't care less about that."
I was talking about him specifically
Well that's what your idiotic rants need. Because you never stop ranting when people talk to you in a serious and respectful manner.
It's doesn't mean I am not white. And being white is not important.That doesn’t mean you are white. The term white is a social construct. It’s reserved for Western Europeans. Even Greeks don’t qualify and that’s why Western Europe mostly shit on them.
Turkey is in very strategic geographic location, kicking out of Nato would OPEN whole region to Russia automatically without a hesitation.
It's doesn't mean I am not white. And being white is not important.
Additionally whites are not just blonde or ginger or with blue eyes.
So as per what you have said re Greeks.. then the real racists are the so called Europeans..
Right?
The article doesn't inform who is proposing the idea in Washington right now. It mentioned Senator Graham did in 2019 but who is doing it now in 2022 over FInland and Sweden bids? The article is 80% composed over the views over Michigan Professor Suny who I doubt represents in any official capacity as the term "Washington" implies.
Disappointed by Newsweek.