Was J-20 deal done in 2011. Secret intelligence report by Stratfor

[BHarwana]

you should write Full Sentence " You know Nothing Jon Snow "

look man he ate my brain for 6 hours. what do you want me to do give him another chance.

 

[Hassan Guy]

No.





This thread can rest now.

 

[YeBeWarned]

look man he ate my brain for 6 hours. what do you want me to do give him another chance.

Didn't get the joke man am i the only Game of Thrones fan here

 

[armghan]

Didn't get the joke man am i the only Game of Thrones fan here

no bro me too

 

[MastanKhan]

The cost of JF-17 gives you the most strategic advantage you can put hundreds in air who can match that. After BVR are used who can match the numbers?

F 35 can carry 4 aa missiles so number will always win over F 35.

Youngman,

Why is it that young adults pakistanis take idiocy / stupidity to levels unknown.

Those who will have the F35's---their deep strike capabilities will demolish all the bases and the air craft at the bases in a timely manner---that hardly any would be able to fly.

What fools paradise do you kids grow up in?

 

[BHarwana]

Youngman,

Why is it that young adults pakistanis take idiocy / stupidity to levels unknown.

Those who will have the F35's---their deep strike capabilities will demolish all the bases and the air craft at the bases in a timely manner---that hardly any would be able to fly.

What fools paradise do you kids grow up in?

hahahaha you know what will kill USA over confidence. A noob like me can bring down a F-35 and you are talking about the Pakistani forces.

I can design a seeker that can shoot down a F-35 without a RADAR and IR signature. An idot like me so do you think PAC cannot?

 

[MastanKhan]

hahahaha you know what will kill USA over confidence. A noob like me can bring down a F-35 and you are talking about the Pakistani forces.

Kid,

You are an absolute imbecile---.

An american is never ' over confident ' in war or otherwise---. It always strikes with a cold surgical precision at its enemies without any emotion---.

Don't walk too far ahead of yourself---many have---and they did not even know when ' their ' lights got shut out.

 

[BHarwana]

Kid,

You are an absolute imbecile---.

An american is never ' over confident ' in war or otherwise---. It always strikes with a cold surgical precision at its enemies without any emotion---.

Don't walk too far ahead of yourself---many have---and they did not even know when ' their ' lights got shut out.

Baby!

The new system that are going to bring down F-35 are based on Optics. Here are the new counter measure Russia is testing
Blinding Them With Science: Russian MiG-35 to Fire Laser Weapon at Enemy Optics
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201703091051411399-russia-fighter-jet-laser-weapons/

Please get informed. I thought you were smart.

 

[Darth Vader]

I was going through Wikileaks data and came across a USA stratfor company intelligence report about Pakistan's Jf-17 and possible J-20 deal. Thought I should make a thread and get the views of the community.



On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor

Fwd: [EastAsia] CHINA/PAKISTAN/MIL - More on JF-17 Thunder and Other
Military Assistance


An update:

China is in talks with Pak about the J-20 as well.

There is also mention of China launching a satellite for Pak in August
2011. I believe this was already in the works, but just being reaffirmed
here.

Even if these are already in the works, there is clearly an attempt to
stress these military deals in the media.

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [EastAsia] CHINA/PAKISTAN/MIL - More on JF-17 Thunder and Other
Military Assistance
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:14:55 -0500
From: Melissa Taylor <melissa.taylor@stratfor.com>
Reply-To: East Asia AOR <eastasia@stratfor.com>
To: East Asia AOR <eastasia@stratfor.com>, OS@stratfor.com

Contradictory dates of delivery, but the June 2012 date is clearly the
more realistic.
China to provide Pakistan 50 Thunder jets, talks for stealth on
May 19, 2011
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/c...n-50-thunder-jets-talks-for-stealth-on-106991

Beijing: China has agreed to immediately provide Pakistan 50 new JF-17
Thunder multi-role jets under a co-production agreement even as talks are
on for more fighter aircraft including those with stealth technology.

China will immediately provide 50 JF-17 Thunder aircraft to Pakistan, an
unnamed official was quoted as saying by the Dawn daily.

"We will get these planes in weeks," he said, adding that a formal
agreement to that effect was likely to be signed today.
The official said Pakistan and China were already jointly producing the
JF-17 aircraft, but these 50 planes would be equipped with more
sophisticated avionics.

He said the war planes to be fully funded by China would help bolster
Pakistan's defence and add to tactical capability of its air force.
The News daily reported that it is likely that these planes will be
supplied by June next year.

It added that the two countries are also discussing the supply of Chinese
J-20 stealth jets and Xiaolong/FC-1 multi-purpose light fighter aircraft
to Pakistan.

They are discussing the mode of payment and the number of planes to be
provided to Pakistan, the report said. With the supply of the new
fighters, Pakistan Air Force will now have a total of 260 Chinese jets,
making them the mainstay of the force.

Meanwhile, in a sign of greater cooperation between the two countries,
China will also launch a satellite for Pakistan on August 14.

The satellite will supply "multifarious data" to Pakistan, the report
said.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, who was on a visit to China, said both
sides had agreed to increase defence cooperation and China had assured
Pakistan of help in enhancing the capacity of its armed forces.

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/...a-pakistan-mil-more-on-jf-17-thunder-and.html

there was a news too From China Dedicating 2 j10 Squads for the defence of Pakistan
Getting these birds in a weeks Only 2 Options
1 F7PG , which Pakistan Currently Operates ,
2 j 10 Which has alot similarities with thunder

No other options Because for that You need birds which are already operational or already developed and that only these Projects were properly running After Tests , Rest of j 20 , 31 , or other j series were mostly test beds so that answers that
as For j 20 People tend to Forget that Every Country has Different Needs , From its size j 20 Shows that its a long Range Stealth Fighter While Pakistan doesnt have any need for that
Even if China and Pakistan Agrees to Buy j20 it will be bit different Hence j 31 Comes in Play

 

[BHarwana]

Kid,

You are an absolute imbecile---.

An american is never ' over confident ' in war or otherwise---. It always strikes with a cold surgical precision at its enemies without any emotion---.

Don't walk too far ahead of yourself---many have---and they did not even know when ' their ' lights got shut out.

F-35 has been offered to India by USA. Both Pakistan and China know it and we have the solution for this baby. Here read the report.

This comes after the Pentegon's statements yesterday that Animesh picked
found on the failed sale of F-16's and F-18's to the Indian military and
is the first instance I can remember of the US offering the F-35. Ties in
with our piece on the US seeking to strengthen it's military ties w/
Japan, SE Asia and India that Aaron has in edit. - CR

US willing to discuss F-35 fighter jets with India
http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1747897
2011-11-03 06:36 AM

The United States has taken a significant first step toward offering F-35
fighter jet aircraft to India in a sign of its desire to deepen defense
cooperation.

Robert Scher, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for South and
Southeast Asia, said Wednesday the U.S. thinks India's military could use
a jet like the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which the U.S. is developing
with a consortium of allies.

"What's clear is that the F-35 is something that we would be more than
willing to talk to the government of India about," should they express an
interest, he said.

Scher was speaking at a Pentagon news conference after the release of a
Defense Department annual report to Congress on U.S.-India security
cooperation.

The report, which outlined expanding military exchanges between the
world's two largest democracies, said the U.S. is committed to a broad
trade defense relationship "that enables transfers of some of our most
advanced technologies."

The offer to discuss the F-35 comes after Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin
missed out to European competitors in April bidding for a $11 billion deal
to supply India with 126 fighter jets. The U.S. defense firms were
offering F-16s and F-18s.

President Barack Obama had lobbied in person for that deal when he visited
Indian last November, and his administration described the knock-back as a
missed opportunity to deepen defense ties.

Analysts said completing any potential sale of F-35s is still a long way
off, but the offer in principle to supply the more sophisticated jets
reflects Washington's commitment to India's growth as a global power and
emergence as a strategic partner for the United States.

Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman and Republican Sen. John Cornyn said
Wednesday's report was "an encouraging sign that the administration is
committed to strengthening our relationship with India."

The F-35 is the Pentagon's biggest weapons procurement program, and has
been undertaken with support from allies including Britain, Australia,
Canada, Israel and several European nations. It has been plagued with
delays and cost overruns.

Ashley Tellis, a defense expert at the Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace think tank, said it was unlikely India would consider
the F-35, which is not expected to be in the U.S. Air Force before 2016,
as a fresh candidate for the deal that U.S. firms missed out on in April.

But he said India will be looking to acquire a stealth fighter _ known as
the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft _ after the middle of the decade.
Although India wants to codevelop that plane, F-35s supplied by the U.S.
would be an attractive option, he said.

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/...-us-willing-to-discuss-f-35-fighter-jets.html

 

[Raider 21]

Hi,

Like Pakistan abandoned Saudia and Emirates / GCC

Hi,

If they can use them as soldiers and sweepers so easily....then they can. And it is the other way around...I have an idea of how things work there

 

[GR!FF!N]

[emoji38] you beleive this third rates site its your choice you are denial mode man with current engine it is way way better than your best air superiority jets and with a planned WS-15 it will compete with F-22, F35 and PAKFA

You've something better??Is there any proper site in your opinion that claims it's a Air superiority fighter???

Plus,the points this article gas raised,I saw same in other defense journals as well.

 

[Ultima Thule]

You've something better??Is there any proper site in your opinion that claims it's a Air superiority fighter???

Plus,the points this article gas raised,I saw same in other defense journals as well.

All site are saying that it is a air superiority jet including Jane's, aviation week, global-security and others you live in your wet dreams and wishful thinking

 

[GR!FF!N]

All site are saying that it is a air superiority jet including Jane's, aviation week, global-security and others you live in your wet dreams and wishful thinking

Post link.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Post link.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/j-20.htm
http://aviationweek.com/zhuhai-2016/j-20-appears-zhuhai-air-show
http://www.janes.com/article/65074/...-show-amid-reports-of-possible-larger-variant
sorry to burt your bubbles