Vietnam’s top carriers avoid Huawei 5G gear, citing security concerns

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Its citing security concerns.

Which is BS since the EU didn’t ban Huawei, even the Swiss are using Huawei 5G so it’s 100% political decision.

 

[055_destroyer]

Lastly, honestly, who the hell even needs a 5G data communication technology. I have never seen one single application needing anything beyond 3G speeds.

5G is critical to implement autonomous driving system or air drone control. Wireless data has gone beyond just download photo, software or streaming. If you want to dominate future technology like autonomous driving, transport, delivery. You need 5G. 5G can penetrate wall, tunnel better and large anount of data is transferred on time for autonomous car to make the best decision like traffic route to avoid jams or delays.

https://www.salon.com/2019/03/28/ho...mous-cars-and-connected-smart-cities_partner/

 

[BringHarmony]

5G is critical to implement autonomous driving system or air drone control. Wireless data has gone beyond just download photo, software or streaming. If you want to dominate future technology like autonomous driving, transport, delivery. You need 5G. 5G can penetrate wall, tunnel better and large anount of data is transferred on time for autonomous car to make the best decision like traffic route to avoid jams or delays.

LOL ! Autonomous driving and drones. Does anyone even know the requirements of autonomous driving? Unlikely. You solve a problem once you understand it. 5G is a solution searching for problem.

BTW, on penetration part. the 5G mmWave --the so called holy grail of high-speed communication-- has such a bad penetration power that it cann't even penetrate your hand while holding a handset. It gets disturbed by rain!

And here is a indoor penetration comparison between LTE and 5G.

LTE does the job already if indoor penetration is that much of a problem. Mostly, such places (including tunnels etc), if they NEED coverage will have technologies like WiFi deployed.

5G as I said, is a solution searching for problem.

All of this domination hype is kool-aid sold to investor for solution which have no use anywhere.

 

[055_destroyer]

LOL ! Autonomous driving and drones. Does anyone even know the requirements of autonomous driving? Unlikely. You solve a problem once you understand it. 5G is a solution searching for problem.

BTW, on penetration part. the 5G mmWave --the so called holy grail of high-speed communication-- has such a bad penetration power that it cann't even penetrate your hand while holding a handset. It gets disturbed by rain!

And here is a indoor penetration comparison between LTE and 5G.

LTE does the job already if indoor penetration is that much of a problem. Mostly, such places (including tunnels etc), if they NEED coverage will have technologies like WiFi deployed.

5G as I said, is a solution searching for problem.

All of this domination hype is kool-aid sold to investor for solution which have no use anywhere.

You don't understand. Autonomous need latest update data of traffic. Can latest update of traffic be pre install? It's not just about robot learning how to drive.... Do you understand?

 

[Viet]

LOL ! Autonomous driving and drones. Does anyone even know the requirements of autonomous driving? Unlikely. You solve a problem once you understand it. 5G is a solution searching for problem.

BTW, on penetration part. the 5G mmWave --the so called holy grail of high-speed communication-- has such a bad penetration power that it cann't even penetrate your hand while holding a handset. It gets disturbed by rain!

And here is a indoor penetration comparison between LTE and 5G.

LTE does the job already if indoor penetration is that much of a problem. Mostly, such places (including tunnels etc), if they NEED coverage will have technologies like WiFi deployed.

5G as I said, is a solution searching for problem.

All of this domination hype is kool-aid sold to investor for solution which have no use anywhere.

Wifi 6 has better performance, greater range, lower costs. they hype 5g to sell the stuff. Unless you are in a desert, in no man land, no telecom infrastructure, WiFi is a better solution.

 

[BringHarmony]

You don't understand. Autonomous need latest update data of traffic. Can latest update of traffic be pre install? It's not just about robot learning how to drive.... Do you understand?

I don't understand. I do agree to it. My basic premise is that NOBODY understands it right now. Because the requirements of a autonomous solution is simply not well understood. And not to mention the scenarios that can happen in autonomous driving.

All solutions go through this phase : 1. Problem no well understood 2. Problem understood but supporting technology is not present. 3. Present supporting technology is modified for use. 4. Specific supporting technology developed.

Autonomous driving is in first phase.

Dont believe me? Take ML/AI for example.
1. 50-70s problem no well understood. Solutions were based on predicate logic and expert systems.
2. 80s-90s shallow neural network emerge and studied. Deep neural network envision, but impractical due to lack of computation power.
3. 2000s : GPUs and GPGPUs emerge capable of doing massive amount of computation.
4. 2010-15 : GPUs accelerate building deep-neural networks.
2015-present : Specialized GPUs and specialized processor enabling deep learning.

 

[055_destroyer]

I don't understand. I do agree to it. My basic premise is that NOBODY understands it right now. Because the requirements of a autonomous solution is simply not well understood. And not to mention the scenarios that can happen in autonomous driving.

Then I suggest u just watch how 5G unfold and changes our way of living. How it bring us to another level of generation. You will soon realise why 5G is so crucial and why Trump is desperate to defeat Huawei.

 

[BringHarmony]

Then I suggest u just watch how 5G unfold and changes our way of living. How it bring us to another level of generation. You will soon realise why 5G is so crucial and why Trump is desperate to defeat Huawei.

There was a time when people thought LaserDisc IS the future. Or Sony Betamax IS the future. Needless to say, didn't pan out quite like that.

I am sure 6G will come too and then 7G and so on. Till then I am happy with my 3G handset. Its cheap and ubiquitous.

Wifi 6 has better performance, greater range, lower costs. they hype 5g to sell the stuff. Unless you are in a desert, in no man land, no telecom infrastructure, WiFi is a better solution.

Problems that 5G is trying to solve do not even exist right now. When they will, I don't know if 5G will be the right solution. There are no autonomous cars that need 5G, nor there are drones delivering packages which are restricted by 4G or 3G. Let that time come and we will know if 5G or whatever if required. Its like selling motor oil before the invention of motor car.

 

[cochine]

Which is BS since the EU didn’t ban Huawei, even the Swiss are using Huawei 5G so it’s 100% political decision.

This BS is harmless for them, but for Vietnam is not. China is enemy of Viet in this region. China had stolen our Island and sea. When China got mad, the conflict is not prevented. When we have same frequency 5G with you for example. China can easyly make the frequency interferencies or other technical troubles for our system.

Its the citing secerity problem, technical dicision, not political ...

 

[BringHarmony]

This BS is harmless for them, but for Vietnam is not. China is enemy of Viet in this region. China had stolen our Island and sea. When China got mad, the conflict is not prevented. When we have same frequency 5G with you for example. China can easyly make the frequency interferencies or other technical troubles for our system.

Its the citing secerity problem, technical dicision, not political ...

Honestly, giving a pass on 5G is better than getting CCP embedded into your core communication infrastructure. Go Vietnam!

 

[gambit]

Which is BS since the EU didn’t ban Huawei, even the Swiss are using Huawei 5G so it’s 100% political decision.

No, the security concern is not BS, and yes, to ban Huawei or not to ban is %100 political. China's National Security Law is the non-spoken issue here. Even Huawei admitted that if compelled, Huawei must obey the Party's directives in all things.

 

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No, the security concern is not BS, and yes, to ban Huawei or not to ban is %100 political. China's National Security Law is the non-spoken issue here. Even Huawei admitted that if compelled, Huawei must obey the Party's directives in all things.

In China, not overseas which local government have control over it.

This BS is harmless for them, but for Vietnam is not. China is enemy of Viet in this region. China had stolen our Island and sea. When China got mad, the conflict is not prevented. When we have same frequency 5G with you for example. China can easyly make the frequency interferencies or other technical troubles for our system.

Its the citing secerity problem, technical dicision, not political ...

Sorry, but N Vietnam already made a deal that the parcel island belongs to China so it can't change it's mind later and want it back after China occupied it.

 

[KAL-EL]

Will there be a 5G equivalent to food?

 

[congtubl]

In China, not overseas which local government have control over it.


Sorry, but N Vietnam already made a deal that the parcel island belongs to China so it can't change it's mind later and want it back after China occupied it.

Crap, no documents or anything recognized as Chinese, no country has confirmed it for you. Send evidence, don't talk by mouth
Why are you joining UNLOC and you don't implement it, you don't mention it in your government statements.
You ignore them to force them like they did to Philipine.
However, for Vietnam, the joint exploitation policy, sticks and carrots do not apply.

 

[cochine]

In China, not overseas which local government have control over it.


Sorry, but N Vietnam already made a deal that the parcel island belongs to China so it can't change it's mind later and want it back after China occupied it.

You are liar, like yoủr govt. CPC copied fake claiment of KMT in 1948.

Will there be a 5G equivalent to food?

This food is effected with hacking viruses.