Vietnam's Kilo-class submarines a serious threat to China

[FairAndUnbiased]

same as Vietnam vs. Mongolian Empire in ancient time
at the end of the day, only few of the 500,000 strong barbarian army invading vietnam survived. what a bloodshed.

what about Han or Ming and the domination of Annam for centuries?

 

[biendong]

what about Han or Ming and the domination of Annam for centuries?

Both Nan Han and Ming were beaten and ran away from Vietnam.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Both Nan Han and Ming were beaten and ran away from Vietnam.

1st domination of Vietnam: Han.
2nd domination of Vietnam: Han, Wu, Jin.
3rd domination of Vietnam: Tang
4th domination of Vietnam: Ming

Almost 1000 years total.

 

[biendong]

1st domination of Vietnam: Han.
2nd domination of Vietnam: Han, Wu, Jin.
3rd domination of Vietnam: Tang
4th domination of Vietnam: Ming

Almost 1000 years total.

finally, Vietnam regained Independence from China in 938 ACE.

 

[xunzi]

finally, Vietnam regained Independence from China in 938 ACE.

We made most of your intellectuals during the Ming domination into eunuch. LOL

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

what about Han or Ming and the domination of Annam for centuries?

Don't listen to him he lives in past, literally. Every time he have to brought up dead history to the conversation. I'm thinking dementia already taken him. Just because Vietnam won some war it doesn't mean it will extends to the future.

By his logic Canada can win the war against the US just because they won during the war of 1812.

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

China's anti-submarine capabilities are improving with the type 056A corvettes and type 056A frigates with their strong ASW capabilities (hull mounted sonar, towed array sonar, variable depth sonar and ASW helicopter) and now China is inducting the Y-8FQ/GX-6 Maritime Patrol Aircraft. China is going to produce a lot of these naval and air assets.

China adding towed sonars to Type 054A, Type 056 vessels - IHS Jane's 360

Chinese Navy New Y-8FQ Cub/GX-6 Maritime Patrol Aircraft Operational with PLAN North Sea Fleet

It is hard for the japs to receive that their so-called the most powerful anti-forces in Asia are losing the light. But i think the japs may continue to seek excuses to comfort themselves(chinese subs are noisy or bla bla). Similarly their media invented the famous word "转进" in WWII.

 

[biendong]

We made most of your intellectuals during the Ming domination into eunuch. LOL

don't lie.

20 year invaded Ming soldiers in to Vietnam with fighting, and last 10 year was fighting with our King Le Loi. What chinese did in this time when only Tonkin and sub-area was ocoupied by Chinese ? mostly Chinese ran round on contiounous battle and fighting.

Japanese ocoupied 1/3 territory of China from 1934-1945 in 10 year. Can I say that all Chinese people were educated by Japanese in this time ?

 

[FaujHistorian]

same as Vietnam vs. Mongolian Empire in ancient time
at the end of the day, only few of the 500,000 strong barbarian army invading vietnam survived. what a bloodshed.

Thanks for sharing.

However for contemporary warfare i.e. in 2015+, please study WW-1 and WW-2.

Please study and share the role of Vietnamese army in these wars.

Thank you.


p.s. As I said earlier, modern warfare started in 1805. War history before 1805 cannot be used as a model anymore.

 

[Aepsilons]

@biendong , may i ask you post more pictures of these new Kilo Class Subs?

 

[VALKRYIE]

Most Chinese members don't even get a rat a$$ about Vietnam, and it was the Viet trolls who always tail after China by derailing our threads.

Yea Chinese don't give a shit about Vietnam.

Chinese Cartoon distorting Vietnam history and depicting China as Saviours and Vietnam as train monkeys. Chinese claiming that they were responsible for winning the French and VN war. The US only lost because they made a deal with China to let North Vietnam take over South Vietnam. And that Vietnam stole Paracel islands from China.

Chinese Netizens Comment on Whether to Wage War with Vietnam

The Vision Times
May 21, 2014
By Cassie Ryan

Chinese netizens living near Vietnam have been uploading photos of People’s Liberation Army troops, vehicles, and artillery gathering along the border, following protests outside Chinese-owned factories in Vietnam last weekend, when over 20 people were killed.

The anti-Chinese riots started after state-run energy firm China National Offshore Oil Corporation began installing an oil rig 120 nautical miles east of Vietnam, close to the disputed Paracel Islands.

Many Internet users believe a conflict is imminent. Here are a few comments from readers of a KZG article, including some of the military photos, showing an interesting range of opinions on the matter.

“China should not invade Vietnam. The Vietnamese nation loves peace, and its people don’t hate the Chinese.”

“Start war now, so Chinese people have a chance for a new life.”

“If war breaks out, the Chinese Communist Party will collapse.”

“The Vietnamese government wants to shift its domestic crisis. So does the Chinese regime. They want to fight each over their own interests. The Chinese will not fight, since most second- and third-generation officials live overseas now—they will be held hostage if war starts, so they dare not.”

“Why can a big country like China bully a small country? The Chinese regime has a lot of territory, but it also has political corruption, a backward economy, domestic oppression, and foreign appeasement. Such a government is weak, so Vietnam can do something. Waging war has nothing to do with the Chinese people; it just serves the interests of the rich and powerful. They can make money out of it. The war can only add a burden to the rank and file. Do you believe those officials will waste their bribe money on fighting a war?”

Chinese Netizens Comment on Whether to Wage War with Vietnam | The Vision Times


Vietnamese parody beloved Chinese drama 'Princess Pearl,' netizens don't approve

Scathing remarks about the Vietnamese spoof of the beloved Chinese period drama Princess Pearl have been trending on Weibo in an apparent response to the anti-China sentiments developing in Vietnam.

Also known as Huan Zhu Ge Ge in Mandarin, the first few runs of Princess Pearl featured A-lister Zhao Wei who played the viviacious Xiaoyanzi, an orphan in Beijing who befriends the emperor's illegitimate daughter and accidentally becomes a princess. Details of an upcoming Vietnamese version have just been released, and the Chinese netizens are apparently not taking too well to thisintended subversion of a classic drama that has been venerated as one of the biggest Chinese TV hits of all time.

Comments attacked the "effeminate" portrayals of the macho characters in the original TV show as well as the garish make-up reminiscent of Taiwanese comedienne Ru Hua, citing them as gross insults to the original TV series.

Amid these lashings-out there stands a sole voice of reason from netizen MuZiJiaJia:

"Seems like everyone is attacking Vietnam on purpose. This is a comedy version, it is meant to make people laugh, don't we have channels like that in China as well? We view Vietnam the way the West looks at China, and pretend that we are still living in the last century. The message always doesn't seem like it is getting across."
Vietnamese parody beloved Chinese drama 'Princess Pearl,' netizens don't approve: Shanghaiist


PHOTOS: Vietnamese models get patriotic, Chinese netizens get conflicted (and creepy)

A recent photoshoot of Vietnamese models posing in patriotic outfits — such as traditional ao dai dresses emblazoned with the national flag and maritime maps staking the country's claims to the Spratlys and Paracels — is making China's netizens feel… well, conflicted.

China mostly young, male and rather frustrated (gender imbalance much?) web users have been simultaneously admiring the ladies while also maligning their country, in ways that'll make the reader feel conflicted as well: amused, indignant and deeply worried all at once...

"She dears to wear China's territory on her body? Hehe, I'll take her down to the ground myself."

"I wanna start drilling into her South Sea... like if you know what I mean!"

"Drill deep, drill wide, get lots of oil!"

"This is a signal to the men of China, open fire at me!"

"Five yellow stars on red, perfect. If you want to join China so bad you should just say so, we'll let you in under "one country, twp systems." Investment will increase by twentyfold within one year"

"What are you talking about, two systems? They're socialists too, we can just set up Annam [name of northern Vietnam when it was a Chinese imperial subject] province and call them the Viet minority people"

"You're both wrong. It should be "one country, two systems," but monkeys don't deserve socialism. Let's institute slavery in Vietnam"

"Liberate Vietnam"

"They're just enticing us to start drilling"

"Looks like there aren't enough men over there, let's have at it"

"The 57th nationality [of China]!"

PHOTOS: Vietnamese models get patriotic, Chinese netizens get conflicted (and creepy)

@biendong , may i ask you post more pictures of these new Kilo Class Subs?

At 10:50, 4 Kilos: have anchored in the port, 185 - Khanh Hoa, 184 - Haiphong and 182 - Hanoi, 183 - Ho Chi Minh City.

 

[Aepsilons]

Looking really good, buddy. Four Kilos ....nice!

What's the VPN's plan? To ahve up to 6? 8? 10?

 

[Economic superpower]

It is hard for the japs to receive that their so-called the most powerful anti-forces in Asia are losing the light. But i think the japs may continue to seek excuses to comfort themselves(chinese subs are noisy or bla bla).

Japan has only 6 Aegis-class guided missile destroyers. The others are basically frigates.

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

Japan has only 6 Aegis-class guided missile destroyers. The others are basically frigates.

Nothing, we have more and better 052c or 052d, latter 055.
Japanese as i knew, if they cannot accept it, they will ignore it. They can make any excuses to comfort themselves, such as our navy's lack of experience, our equipments' unreliability or sucking sub detection etc.

 

[Aepsilons]

Wow, such a beautiful submarine ! Congratulations Vietnam on your latest acquisition.