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Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

Coming to this as an outsider, why would a Vietnamese ship provoke an Indonesian ship in Indonesian EEZ?

We have disputed EEZ

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Vietnam, Indonesia eye early EEZ delimitation
By Viet Anh September 12, 2018 | 09:58 am GMT+7
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President of the Republic of Indonesia Joko Widodo and President of Vietnam Tran Dai Quang (R) review the Vietnamese People's Army honorary delegation in Hanoi, Vietnam, September 11, 2018. Photo by Nhac Nguyen/Pool via Reuters
Negotiations on exclusive economic zones, fishing, trade, and investment topped the agenda during Indonesian President Joko Widodo’s two-day visit to Vietnam beginning Tuesday.
"We have agreed that the negotiation on the EEZ between the two countries could be enhanced, and I hope that this negotiation could be concluded soon, " Widodo said at a joint press conference with his Vietnamese counterpart, Tran Dai Quang, following their meeting in Hanoi.

The two countries have so far held 10 rounds of talks on the delimitation of their EEZs.

Also Tuesday the two countries signed a joint statement on their voluntary participation in international cooperation for combating illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing and promoting bilateral sustainable fisheries management.

The statement, based on a memorandum of understanding on fisheries cooperation and maritime affairs they signed in 2010, is a key document "of great importance, " Widodo said.

The two presidents also welcomed the progress made in the ongoing negotiations for a Code of Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (COC), or the East Sea as Vietnam calls it.

This contributes significantly in asserting that the waters continues to be a safe, stable and peaceful area, he noted.

Quang said the two sides have agreed to further strengthen their strategic partnership.

On Tuesday they signed an action plan for the implementation of the Vietnam-Indonesia Strategic Partnership in 2019-2023.

Quang said the two countries share a desire for a peaceful, stable, secure and safe region and pledged to continue promoting defense and security cooperation in response to growing traditional and non-traditional challenges in the region.

"We reaffirm the importance of peace, stability, security, safety, and freedom of navigation and overflight in the East Sea; settlement of disputes by peaceful means in accordance with international laws, especially the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea or UNCLOS; full respect for diplomatic and legal procedures; serious and full implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the East Sea; and early completion of a realistic and legally-binding COC."

The two leaders agreed to support trade liberalization, enhance regional economic connectivity and prioritize new-generation free trade agreements.

The countries have set a bilateral trade target of $10 billion by 2020.

Last year the value of bilateral trade increased by 8.64 percent year-on-year to $6.8 billion, according to the Indonesian Embassy in Hanoi.
 
Nonsense. Can you tell me how many men the PLA in the 1970s? the chinese have the largest army in the world in case you don’t know. We faced a two front war, so Vietnam’s aim was to annihilate Cambodia army on the Western flank before turning to the North facing the PLA. The second objective was to end the genocide which was stopped too. If you don’t believe you can check who rules Cambodia today.

Body counts don't lie.
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Until Vietnam intervention, Pol pot killed a third of Cambodia citizens. If bodies don’t lie, where were you? Where Indonesia?

Why didn’t you jump in to stop the bloodshed? Making rediculous comment on Vietnam sacrifices is cheap.
Interesting!
Keep doing such saint work. Forget about Sub-mekong bla bla or Vietnam will end up with eggs on its face again.
 
Until Vietnam intervention, Pol pot killed a third of Cambodia citizens. If bodies don’t lie, where were you? Where Indonesia?

Why didn’t you jump in to stop the bloodshed? Making rediculous comment on Vietnam sacrifices is cheap.
By killing another additional thousands of cambodian civilians, illegally occupying them & putting a puppet government in place? The american at least are more believable when they liberate another country.

Nobody in the international community believes in vietnam supposed humanitarian intervention. Not singapore, not indonesian, not malaysian & not even the rest of asean. Other than the communists.

Vietnam spending 1/3 of their budget to win a war against cambodia is laughable in it self adding the many thousands of dead vpa soldiers only make me laugh even harder.
 
Immature, and if what you are saying about how 90% of Vietnamese want war with Indonesia, then all of them are also immature AND stupid, and that's also the appropriate way to call your manners. Don't be that annoying Viet spiralling in delusions of themselves and others, just like a dog barking at a lion i must say. What you are saying here is all arrogance, ignorance AND delusion, stop this kind of stupidity, or you will be forever remembered as the annoying, delusional boat people who thinks anyone else "just like Cambodia", you must know your REAL capacity Viet, not your idealization of your own (L I M I T E D) power.

You and other annoying chauvinists is just like a fool deliberately stepping on a landmine to prove how macho he is, yet the fact is, he's not macho, but he's certainly stupid, and that's exactly what you are.

If you notice all his previous posting, you can see he is just some kid or some college student at best.

Unfortunately few of those who claim to be Vietnamese posters aren't always real Vietnamese either.
 
If you notice all his previous posting, you can see he is just some kid or some college student at best.

Unfortunately few of those who claim to be Vietnamese posters aren't always real Vietnamese either.

Pretty sure this kid is a Vietnamese, his broken English grammar structure is similar to many Vietnamese trolls. His delusions all matched with what many Vietnamese delude about how "awesome" they are, Nguyens talking about Pol Pot, Khmer and Barbarian sh*t. There are only two qualities that Vietnamese trolls always proudly show to people of other countries', that is unbased arrogance and unfounded self-worthiness. Talking cringy sh*t about how they were civilized since 4000 years or some sh*t like that, when nobody cares about it really, people didn't give a damn if they were an ancient land regularly used as China's punching bag, it won't make them of any more relevant in this modern day.
 
Why dare not shoot at our guard ships ??

btw, as I know, it happended 2 months ago, and now VN guard ships still patrolling around this water to protect Vn fishing boats while Indo warship dare not make anymore trouble :cool:

in fact, 90% VNese want war wt Indo now, so we can take all Indo water like we take all Cambodia water.
Lol such bullshit.....youre clearly stressed by sheer amount of missing fishing fleet indonesia detained hahaha

ID is barbarian nation, they r just at the same rank wt Pol Pot, but seem like they r abit smarter when dare not shoot at our guard ships
Lol very barbaric. unlike most humane commies right?

267 vs. 0

Philippines shot dead two VN fishermen and see? Nothing happened, Vietnam will just cower and hide behind their big talks. I bet nothing will come from Vietnam after this incident.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/...ault-death-2-vietnamese-fishermen-probe-finds
Holy shit dude. Pnoys are shooting them like rats and nothing happens.
Meanwhile some commie junkies think they can challenge indonesia and turn it into another pol pot like scenario LOL
 
Shoulda take the matter to the court instead of employing crude tactic, i.e. ramming ships.

Alas....'Tis but an imperfect world.
 
@waz pls lock this BS thread. Pathetic ID navy ran away, we dont wanna talk wt them.

Pls lock, ban and stop all losers trolling here. Vnese dont wanna talk wt ID even in real life.
 
Shoulda take the matter to the court instead of employing crude tactic, i.e. ramming ships.

Alas....'Tis but an imperfect world.
We know, but apparently human language and the concept of diplomacy cannot be understood by Vietnamese and their culture. As usual, only through brute force they may understand, just like in this incident where they prefer to express their intention by ramming their ship rather than negotiating over the radio.
 

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