Vietnam Defence Forum

[TenLua]

It’s Tet time, pls don’t talk too much of garbage here!

Ok

 

[Viet]

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2019/02/11/air-force-ospreys-spotted-in-vietnam-for-first-time/
At least four Ospreys with the 353rd SOG landed in Vietnam for refueling Feb. 5

nice birds

landing in Danang

Vietnam appears to coordinate the summit with the Chinese. Vietnamese Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh, front, arrives at the Beijing Capital International Airport on Tuesday en route to Pyongyang, two weeks before a planned second U.S.-North Korea summit in Hanoi. [YONHAP]

Arrived in Pyongyang (North Korea)

Vietnamese delegation en route to Kim Jong Un

 

[Aqsuperman]

The second shipment of T-90 just reached our shore

 

[Viet]

That’s beautiful. Vietnamese tank armies should have 1,000 modern tanks in addition to the existing 1,500 legacy tanks. But playing safe, Vietnam should revive the military alliance with Russia. Nobody knows when our northern neighbor with more than 10,000 heavy tanks will run amok, accusing us, we bully their blood brother Cambodia.

 

[Nilgiri]

The second shipment of T-90 just reached our shore

Good job Vietnam. Keep bulking up....keep strengthening!

 

[Viet]

Take a step inside Kim Jong Un's Hanoi hotel

By Karla Cripps, CNN

After a draining two-and-a-half day train journey across China, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un checked in to the Melia Hotel in Hanoi Tuesday.

There had been wide speculation about where Kim would stay, given his security requirements.

The 21-story property, with 306 rooms and suites, is located in the historic heart of Hanoi and is just walking distance from the presumed summit sites -- Government Guest House and the Sofitel Legend Metropole.

Even better, it's less than one mile away from the North Korea Embassy.

Inside the Melia's spacious Presidential Suite at the top of the hotel.Courtesy Melia




Here's what Trump is eating for lunch in Hanoi

From CNN's James Griffiths

An example of cha ca, a traditional Vietnamese dish served to President Trump during a working lunch in Hanoi.


President Trump and Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen are currently sharing a working lunch in the country's Presidential Palace in Hanoi.

Here's what they're eating:

First course: Fresh shredded green mango salad with scallops, mint leaves and cashew nuts served in a sweet vinaigrette dressing.

Second course: Deep fried Hanoi-style spring rolls with shrimp, pork, vermicelli and vegetables served with a side of sweet and sour fish sauce and red chillies.

Third course: King crab meat and spinach in a light seafood-based broth.

Fourth course: Grilled cod fish “cha ca”; roasted Wagyu beef medallions with foie gras and a semi-sweet fermented black rice sauce; sautéed “su su” vegetables with garlic (crispy green chayote stems and leaves); steamed sticky glutinous rice with shrimp wrapped in a lotus leaf.

Dessert: A traditional Vietnamese dessert consisting of lotus seeds, longans, and white wood-ear mushrooms served warm and in a light sugary syrup.

 

[Viet]

Most important visit of the year: Donald Trump pays a visit to the Party Chief and invites him to the White House. Vietnamese enterprises signed contracts worth $21 billion with US technology companies. The US government urges Vietnam to buy US weapons.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...exports-in-meeting-with-vietnam-idUSKCN1QG1HU

“We make the best military equipment in the world by far, whether it’s jet fighters or missiles or rockets or anything you want to name, we make, we’re acknowledged to have made, we make the best,”.

- Donald Trump -

A US security guarantee is much better than any US made weapon.

 

[Viet]

"I had gone through a journey of more than 3,000 kilometers to Vietnam and thank the country for a warm and enthusiastic welcome. We are very happy. Thank Vietnam very much".

- Kim Jong-un -

 

[Viet]

The summit appears to hit a dead end. Kim is said wanting to stay a bit longer. He will tour Vietnam.

 

[striver44]

Indonesia slams Vietnam for disrupting arrests

• Arya Dipa and Agnes Anya
  The Jakarta Post
  
  
  
  

Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti lambasted the Vietnam Fisheries Resources Surveillance (VFRS) agency for allegedly disrupting the Indonesian Navy’s efforts to seize four Vietnam-flagged vessels for illegally fishing in Indonesian waters.

“We request that Vietnam’s government explain about and apologize for the incident,” said Susi on Monday in Bandung, West Java, adding that she would communicate with Foreign Minister Retno LP Marsudi about issuing a formal protest against Vietnam over the incident.

The incident took place on Sunday morning when two VFRS patrol vessels — Kiem Ngu 214214 and Kiem Ngu 214263 — allegedly “prompted dangerous maneuvers” to intercept the arrest of the four vessels for fishing illegally in the northern part of Natuna waters in Riau Islands, authorities said.

“The actions could have caused collisions so we warned them more firmly,” said Cdre. Irvansyah, the commander of the Indonesian Navy’s 1st Fleet Sea Battle Group.

The captain of KRI Tom-357 had to shoot a 76-millimeter cannon to drive the two VFRS patrol boats off, he added.
The Navy eventually managed to seize the four Vietnam-flagged fishing boats safely and put them under their custody.

The four were identified as BV 525 TS; BV 9487 TS; BV 4923 TS; and BVS 525 TS — the first three of which were caught while carrying a total of four cooling boxes full of fish.

Susi said it was not the first such incident in the past few weeks.

Last week, two VFRS boats allegedly tried to stop KP Hiu Macan 01, a vessel owned by the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry’s directorate general of marine resources and fisheries supervision, from arresting four Vietnamese fishing vessels also in North Natuna waters.

The Hiu Macan 01’s captain, Samson, said he decided to release the Vietnamese ships due to safety concerns, citing an incident last year when a Vietnamese coast guard vessel allegedly rammed into a ministry patrol boat — which at the time of the incident was trying to seize a suspected illegal fishing boat.

The fisheries ministry recorded that vessels from Vietnam were among the most seized fishing boats in the ongoing crackdown on illegal fishing. Since October 2014, the ministry has seized or sunk 276 Vietnam-flagged fishing boats for poaching Indonesian waters.

The Foreign Ministry said it regretted the recurrent “disruptions against Indonesia’s law enforcement measures by Vietnamese vessels”.

“The ministry has coordinated with related ministries and institutions, including the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry, to overcome the issue with Vietnam,” ministry spokesperson Arrmanatha Nasir told The Jakarta Post on Tuesday.

However, he did not comment on whether or not his office would send a formal protest to Vietnam.

Naval skirmishes commonly occur in the waters off Natuna Islands regency, especially with Vietnam, as Jakarta and Hanoi remain locked in a dispute over their overlapping exclusive economic zones (EEZs) in the area.

In 2017, tensions flared following a maritime stand-off involving a Vietnamese coast guard vessel that had intercepted an Indonesian fisheries ministry vessel during its attempt to arrest five Vietnamese fishing boats.

Later that year, President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo hosted talks in Jakarta with Nguyen Phu Trong, the general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, to mend ties that had been stretched due to such incidents.

Jokowi then visited Vietnam in 2018, which resulted in a bilateral commitment to conclude negotiations on maritime boundaries and to combat illegal fishing. However, skirmishes in the area continue to date.

Coordinating Maritime Affairs Minister Luhut Pandjaitan recently announced a plan to populate the Natuna Islands with fishermen from other regions such as Java in an effort to bolster Indonesia’s presence in the area.
The Natuna Sea is geographically closer to Vietnam and Malaysia, and borders the disputed South China Sea. (tjs)

Lambasting China for Incursion,while at the same time doing the same thing ..

 

[Nike]

Indonesia slams Vietnam for disrupting arrests

• Arya Dipa and Agnes Anya
  The Jakarta Post
  
  
  
  

Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti lambasted the Vietnam Fisheries Resources Surveillance (VFRS) agency for allegedly disrupting the Indonesian Navy’s efforts to seize four Vietnam-flagged vessels for illegally fishing in Indonesian waters.

“We request that Vietnam’s government explain about and apologize for the incident,” said Susi on Monday in Bandung, West Java, adding that she would communicate with Foreign Minister Retno LP Marsudi about issuing a formal protest against Vietnam over the incident.

The incident took place on Sunday morning when two VFRS patrol vessels — Kiem Ngu 214214 and Kiem Ngu 214263 — allegedly “prompted dangerous maneuvers” to intercept the arrest of the four vessels for fishing illegally in the northern part of Natuna waters in Riau Islands, authorities said.

“The actions could have caused collisions so we warned them more firmly,” said Cdre. Irvansyah, the commander of the Indonesian Navy’s 1st Fleet Sea Battle Group.

The captain of KRI Tom-357 had to shoot a 76-millimeter cannon to drive the two VFRS patrol boats off, he added.
The Navy eventually managed to seize the four Vietnam-flagged fishing boats safely and put them under their custody.

The four were identified as BV 525 TS; BV 9487 TS; BV 4923 TS; and BVS 525 TS — the first three of which were caught while carrying a total of four cooling boxes full of fish.

Susi said it was not the first such incident in the past few weeks.

Last week, two VFRS boats allegedly tried to stop KP Hiu Macan 01, a vessel owned by the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry’s directorate general of marine resources and fisheries supervision, from arresting four Vietnamese fishing vessels also in North Natuna waters.

The Hiu Macan 01’s captain, Samson, said he decided to release the Vietnamese ships due to safety concerns, citing an incident last year when a Vietnamese coast guard vessel allegedly rammed into a ministry patrol boat — which at the time of the incident was trying to seize a suspected illegal fishing boat.

The fisheries ministry recorded that vessels from Vietnam were among the most seized fishing boats in the ongoing crackdown on illegal fishing. Since October 2014, the ministry has seized or sunk 276 Vietnam-flagged fishing boats for poaching Indonesian waters.

The Foreign Ministry said it regretted the recurrent “disruptions against Indonesia’s law enforcement measures by Vietnamese vessels”.

“The ministry has coordinated with related ministries and institutions, including the Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Ministry, to overcome the issue with Vietnam,” ministry spokesperson Arrmanatha Nasir told The Jakarta Post on Tuesday.

However, he did not comment on whether or not his office would send a formal protest to Vietnam.

Naval skirmishes commonly occur in the waters off Natuna Islands regency, especially with Vietnam, as Jakarta and Hanoi remain locked in a dispute over their overlapping exclusive economic zones (EEZs) in the area.

In 2017, tensions flared following a maritime stand-off involving a Vietnamese coast guard vessel that had intercepted an Indonesian fisheries ministry vessel during its attempt to arrest five Vietnamese fishing boats.

Later that year, President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo hosted talks in Jakarta with Nguyen Phu Trong, the general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, to mend ties that had been stretched due to such incidents.

Jokowi then visited Vietnam in 2018, which resulted in a bilateral commitment to conclude negotiations on maritime boundaries and to combat illegal fishing. However, skirmishes in the area continue to date.

Coordinating Maritime Affairs Minister Luhut Pandjaitan recently announced a plan to populate the Natuna Islands with fishermen from other regions such as Java in an effort to bolster Indonesia’s presence in the area.
The Natuna Sea is geographically closer to Vietnam and Malaysia, and borders the disputed South China Sea. (tjs)

Lambasting China for Incursion,while at the same time doing the same thing ..

Setali tiga uang, they are thieves

 

[Bennedict]

Setali tiga uang, they are thieves

Indonesia can always back Vietnam on diplomatic stage about SCS issue, but instead they choose to make their potential ally pissed off, and this is not their first time doing this

 

[warzone]

Setali tiga uang, they are thieves

I'm agree with you, those rogue fishermen are thugs but they are few and miserable thieves. But one day when China will take by force/military control of all South China sea and forbid any fishermen boats nearby (except Chinese fishermen boats), then everyone will know who will be the biggest thug and then Indonesia will miss those few idiots Vietnameses rogues fishermen back then (today).

 

[Viet]

Indonesia can always back Vietnam on diplomatic stage about SCS issue, but instead they choose to make their potential ally pissed off, and this is not their first time doing this

Backing Vietnam? Where and when? That isn’t funny at all. Using weapons in dispute waters overlapping Eez, even the Jakarta Post article stating the region around Natura waters is geographically closer to Vietnam and Malaysia than Indonesia.

 

[nufix]

Backing Vietnam? Where and when? That isn’t funny at all. Using weapons in dispute waters overlapping Eez, even the Jakarta Post article stating the region around Natura waters is geographically closer to Vietnam and Malaysia than Indonesia.

Closer to Vietnam doesnt mean it belongs to Vietnam, does it? They violated the boundary and they were arrested, period. No more discussion needed.