Vietnam Defence Forum

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"In the next 5 years, Vietnam will not buy more submarines, but will continue to strengthen the number of surface warships. The Navy should be among the most potent naval force in Southeast Asia“, said Lieutenant General Phan Van Giang, Chief of General Staff.

I think strengthening the number of both submarines and surface warships is better, not just one of the branches.

pictures of last year visit of a coast guard ship to Japan (Yokohama)

Mine sweeper in service

Sonya class

Yurka class

 

[Viet]

Tanks deployed in SE Asia armies with similar fire power as Vietnam‘s newest tank


Vietnam‘s T90S/SK

OplotM of Thailand

T72B1MS of Laos

Leopard 2SG of Singapore

 

[Nilgiri]

Dont know if it was posted earlier in thread:

L&T to deliver first high-speed patrol boat to Vietnam in September

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...t-to-vietnam-in-september/article30813056.ece

Hanoi also wants Akash Surface-to-Air Systems and Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopters

The first high-speed patrol boat being built for Vietnam under the $100-million Line of Credit (LoC) will be delivered by September, said JD Patil, whole time Director & Senior Executive Vice-President defence & smart technologies, Larsen & Toubro. Hanoi is procuring 12 such boats for its border guard force under the LoC extended in September 2014.

“We should be delivering the first boat this September. Five boats will be built by L&T while the remaining will be built in Vietnam. We are trying to finish the boats by mid 2021,” Mr. Patil told The Hindu on the sidelines of the Defexpo last week.

In 2016, India has extended another $500 million defence LoC to Vietnam and discussions are under way to identify the equipment. Defence sources said Vietnam has expressed interest in Akash Surface-to-Air Systems and Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopters.

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@Viet @Viva_Viet

 

[Nike]

Dont know if it was posted earlier in thread:

L&T to deliver first high-speed patrol boat to Vietnam in September

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...t-to-vietnam-in-september/article30813056.ece

Hanoi also wants Akash Surface-to-Air Systems and Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopters

The first high-speed patrol boat being built for Vietnam under the $100-million Line of Credit (LoC) will be delivered by September, said JD Patil, whole time Director & Senior Executive Vice-President defence & smart technologies, Larsen & Toubro. Hanoi is procuring 12 such boats for its border guard force under the LoC extended in September 2014.

“We should be delivering the first boat this September. Five boats will be built by L&T while the remaining will be built in Vietnam. We are trying to finish the boats by mid 2021,” Mr. Patil told The Hindu on the sidelines of the Defexpo last week.

In 2016, India has extended another $500 million defence LoC to Vietnam and discussions are under way to identify the equipment. Defence sources said Vietnam has expressed interest in Akash Surface-to-Air Systems and Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopters.

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Any pics for the design?

 

[Nilgiri]

Any pics for the design?

https://defpost.com/lt-launches-pro...peed-patrol-vessels-for-vietnam-border-guard/

Let's see what it looks like in the end though.

 

[Nike]

https://defpost.com/lt-launches-pro...peed-patrol-vessels-for-vietnam-border-guard/

Let's see what it looks like in the end though.

Vietnam already capable to build such boats though, even in the class of high end OPV. Wonder why they still ordered such basic patrol boats

 

[Nilgiri]

Vietnam already capable to build such boats though, even in the class of high end OPV. Wonder why they still ordered such basic patrol boats

Probably order logs are full while they wait to develop more capacity. Its why India buys last tranche of russian frigates still though we make better ones domestically.

 

[Viet]

Probably order logs are full while they wait to develop more capacity. Its why India buys last tranche of russian frigates still though we make better ones domestically.

Honestly we need big capital ships as destroyer and cruiser. Not small ones. Our enemy is unfortunately VERY BIG.

Vietnam already capable to build such boats though, even in the class of high end OPV. Wonder why they still ordered such basic patrol boats

Unless we get access to technology the Navy would not order them in big number I think.

Other news

Lots of US weaponry in service

For instance

M578 rescue tank

From the z111 factory

Brandnew domestic improved Ak47 rifle with finder

more lethal

 

[Nilgiri]

Honestly we need big capital ships as destroyer and cruiser. Not small ones. Our enemy is unfortunately VERY BIG.

Yes but need to grow economy more and military budget more. It takes money to buy, train, protect, network and operate bigger things.

 

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Largest private weapons museum in Vietnam targets war history enthusiasts
By Quynh Tran

Travel | February 29, 2020 | 10:29 am GMT+7
Thousands of weapons and war uniforms from around the world dating back centuries are on display at a museum in southern town Vung Tau.

74-year-old Robert Taylor from the U.K. first opened the museum in 2012 and closed it shortly after due to personal reasons. The museum opened again in 2016 at a new address on Tran Hung Dao Street in the beach town.

The French-designed building was built in 1912 and covers a total area of 1,500-square-meters.

The museum displays over 2,500 weapons and war uniforms from across the globe. The owner has classified them into different sections based on the period they were used.

It was the largest private museum of weaponry in Vietnam, according to the Vietnam Book of Records.

The war uniform section of the medival period covers Chinese dynasties like the Qin (ruling from 221 to 206 BC), Song (960-1279) and Qing (1636-1912).

Over 1,000 weapons including guns, swords and knives are housed at the museum.

This is the Greek falchion, dating back 2,000 years, and is one of the oldest weapons in the collection. It remains sharp and in good condition.

The longest of two Indian arquebuses made in the 18th century is three meters. Due to its weight of 14 kg, the gun can only be used as a cannon and has to be reloaded after each shot.

A pistol made in 1816 in a section specially focused on French firearms.

A Vietnamese cannon with dragon detail casted during the period of Khai Dinh, the 12th Nguyen Dynasty ruler (1916-1925).

Hand cannons used by ethnic tribes in northern Vietnam in the 14th and 15th centuries.

Uniforms and weaponry from World War II, the North Korean and Vietnam wars.

The M1919 machine gun was a popular weapon used in World War II, amongst others.

Tan, a visitor from Long An Province, said: "The museum is so diverse and detailed. The ancient Chinese uniforms are my favorite."

The museum opens everyday with an entrance fee of VND70,000 ($3) for adults and half the price for children under 12.

 

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How the North Vietnamese army modified a WW2 submachine gun for its war against the US
Jon Guttman

The basis for the weapon was the Chinese Type 50, a blowback, open bolt submachine gun, but with its heat shield cut back three inches and faired into the barrel. (Photo from Historynet.com)

During its war with the French, the communist Viet Minh combined guerrilla warfare and improvisation with more conventional tactics made possible by smuggling large stocks of weaponry from the People’s Republic of China. The latter’s contribution included most of the artillery used in the 1954 siege of Dien Bien Phu and generous amounts of Type 50 submachine guns, Chinese copies of the simple but highly effective Soviet PPSh-41 of World War II.

After having to settle for only the northern part of the territory they regarded as their own in the Western-brokered peace that followed the ouster of the French from Indochina, the North Vietnamese set about preparing for their next move, the overthrow of the United States-backed government in South Vietnam and its incorporation into a united, communist Vietnam.

While the North Vietnamese did not have a full-fledged weapons industry, they did have the engineering capacity to create a submachine gun for the fight to come by combining elements of the Type 50 with those of the French MAT-49, large stocks of which they had also acquired in the course of their just-concluded conflict. The result was a distinctive looking weapon in its own right that, in classic Vietnamese style, involved more ingenuity than invention.

The basis for the weapon was the Chinese Type 50, a blowback, open bolt submachine gun, but with its heat shield cut back three inches and faired into the barrel. The muzzle compensator, designed to reduce barrel climb while firing fully automatic, was removed and a new foresight tap welded to the muzzle.

Firing the same 7.62x25mm round as the original PPSh-41, the M-50K, as the North Vietnamese SMG was designated, had a muzzle velocity of 1,600 feet per second, a rate of fire of 700 rounds per minute and an effective range of 100-150 feet. (Photo by Historynet.com)

The simple open leaf sight could be set for 100 to 200 meters. The wooden furniture and stock, which were vulnerable to rot in Indochina’s operating conditions, were removed and replaced with a wooden hand grip behind the trigger and an adjustable wire butt as used on the MAT-49, welded to either side of the gun. Ammunition was generally carried in a curved 35-round magazine, but the SMG was capable of accommodating the original Type 50’s circular 71-round drum if the wire butt stock was pulled fully back.

Firing the same 7.62x25mm round as the original PPSh-41, the M-50K, as the North Vietnamese SMG was designated, had a muzzle velocity of 1,600 feet per second, a rate of fire of 700 rounds per minute and an effective range of 100-150 feet.

 

[Viet]

A chinese poster here says design is worse than Syria rebels, it’s effective regardless.

 

[IblinI]

A chinese poster here says design is worse than Syria rebels, it’s effective regardless.

Once again, how is it effective when a mobile jeep can't do his job, hit and run because the driver has to get out to avoid the muzzle flash?

 

[warzone]

Once again, how is it effective when a mobile jeep can't do his job, hit and run because the driver has to get out to avoid the muzzle flash?

You think it’s a better idea to carry a heavy machine gun on your back ? You make the best with what you have. It's a low cost and effective for fire support. Even PLA use this, so go ask them if it's effective

 

[IblinI]

You think it’s a better idea to carry a heavy machine gun on your back ? You make the best with what you have. It's a low cost and effective for support fire. Even PLA use this so go ask them if it's effective View attachment 610647

Spot the difference before we can carry on the conversation.