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IHS Jane's has learned that a contract is expected to be placed shortly for a 90 m, 2,400-ton aviation training ship for the RAN that will be built by Damen Shipyards in Vietnam. A senior Department of Defence source said the decision to have the ship constructed in Vietnam was based on schedule and cost.
England´s most advanced destroyer HMS Daring (D32) visited Đà Nẵng last december.
Each unit costs 1.68 billion USD.
There are voices that we need a fleet of such sophisticated warships for air defence in the medium term.
well, $200m a ship is not realistic, even when we could produce everything under foreign licenses.If this was made in Vietnam with the same technology in place, it could costs Vietnamese government $200 million each.
Philippines is not bad like that, I heard that they produced some small patrol boat, transport ship, military vehicle ...Well done Vietnam, im impressed by your defence purchases/equipments. I think Vietnams military/navy is among the top in ASEAN. But as someone here said, its true it will also be good if vietnam can invest more on science, Engineering,Manufacturing Machinery, computers, rocketry, communications education. This is the only way it will enable Vietnam to indegenise its defence needs and produce almost all these weapons which is currently mostly import/produce under license from Russia/west. So hope vietnam can invest more in education in these areas i mentioned.
Overall i think Vietnam is well equiped militarily for its size. Compared to the Phillipines, Vietnam at least can produce some patrol ships, corvetes, and military vessels, and hopefully it will be able to produce Sophisticated Frigates in future(investment in science/engineering education will be critical for this to happen). th Philippines by contrast cant produce even a patrol vessel independently, and has to rely on 1940s and 50s U.S patrol vessels(which she still find difficult to afford, relying on gift instead.). I think the philippines can learn alot from Vietnam, Their navy/military is a real Joke. Sometimes it seems being almost a colony of the U,.S has make the philipines governement to neglect its own defence needs. Relying on freebies from other powers. Vietnam can help teach the Phillippines alot about self reliance.Looking at their military, I find it hard to believe Philippine has a larger economy than Vietnam.
Great Going Vietnam keep it up, im impressed. Looking forward to visit Vietnam hopefully soon.
VPA 's still bet on Su-30MK2V and Kilo 636.1 until 2025 or at least 2020, I think.Considering the massive aerial threats from chinese warships and fighter jets today and in the future, in few years we would need these destroyers for air defence.
Philippines is not bad like that, I heard that they produced some small patrol boat, transport ship, military vehicle ...
Vietnamese step out from many great wars and stand right beside the Giant China for very long time ago, so we have more clever long term policy and made many effort on defense issues.
Philippine by contrast, depended so much on the Treaty with USA, and ...
VPA 's still bet on Su-30MK2V and Kilo 636.1 until 2025 or at least 2020, I think.
We need large vessel for coast guard and FSR, and for fishermen, right now.
Thanks for your good words about Vietnam, buddy. Hope you have a great trip if you visit Vietnamwell you are right, i agree its mainly because Vietnam is next to a Giant like China, and had to fight long wars to gain their independence from China for a 100years under which China colonised Vietnam, coupled with the vietnam war and 1979 china invasion.
I do admire Vietnams courage,determination and effort to be self reliant. this is how countries should behave, not relying on freebies(since nothing comes free in politics). I still find it hard to believe Philippine has a larger GDP than Vietnam yet they are so lacking in defence spending/equipment. Even Myanmar and bengladesh(whi boith have a smaller GDP than philippines) have a better military/Navy than they do. I just dont understand how. Seems as you said its mainly because the Philippines relies(is almost a colony) on the U.S. This is a bad policy the philipine has adopted i think. They should welcome the U.S but at the same time they too should should strive and produce their own weapons/improve their defence themselves before totally relying on the U.S . Just like south Korea, who though relies on the U.S has a very robust/credible national defence industry. Since there will come a time when even the U.S wont be willing/able to afford to come to their rescue(despite being the master), in this case they will have to rely on themselves. recent example of China seizing Scarborough and second thomas shoal is a good example, the U.S didi nothing, same with north korea sinking of seouls ship, the U.S didi basiclly nothing.
So i think its good Vietnam is localizing its defence equipments. Since it will have to rely on itself first(No ASEAN country will come to their rescue since they have their own personal interests to protect with China).
However, it will be good for Vietnam to also increase it strategic relationship with the U.S and form some kind of alliance. This will make it carry more weight in its negotiation with China. It shouldnt rely on Russia for obvious reasons.
But overall, i do think it will be good for Vietnam to prioritize negotiations with China on this issue(SCS), this will be the best long term solution, since Vietnam will never be able to defeat China in a Naval confrontation and in decade or so from now, China will simply be too big economically/militarily that it will be hard even for the U.S to even offer verbal support. So think Vietnam should play it wise and avoid emotion in pursuing its interests, while also avoiding to overspend on it military and not ignore its other national economic issues(recent Asian games fiasco wasnt a good example/image).
GOOD LUCK TO VIETNAM, i admire your country alot, small yet so tough.
Thanks for your good words about Vietnam, buddy. Hope you have a great trip if you visit Vietnam
We know it'll be wise and good thing for us solve SCS issues by peaceful solutions, that's said always by Vietnamese Government if you read the news.
But China and her desires 're went far beyond that way, they want take all SCS, push US forces back out west of Pacific, break the first chain island, they want more power and become hegemony like US.
No peace if China keep their way to bully small nation. So Vietnam need US as a counter-balance power in region and people who love peace on the world support for us. That will made China take their seat on negotiation table.
P/S: for Philippines case, I think they come with their mind about defense issue a little too late.
Defense issues in modern world will take country like Philippines so many years from now, so they need speed up more.
They will need many resources, not only money, but infrastructure, rebuild their base, building new military doctrine, training people and new weapons ... all take many time to prepare those things.
South Korea is difference case, they have to face with their North brother after WW2, and they got the lesson from Vietnam War: US can abandon her ally if they're not value anymore ...
well, $200m a ship is not realistic, even when we could produce everything under foreign licenses.
More realistic is if we would produce a part and import the other part (like we build the Molyina corvettes), then we could save 50 per cent of the cost.
Assuming we could do with $800m a ship (instead of $1.68b). a squadron of 4 ships would cost $3.2b.
Considering the massive aerial threats from chinese warships and fighter jets today and in the future, in few years we would need these destroyers for air defence.