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Ok some news of the day

Vietnam gets the 3,200 ton Hamilton class cutter with installed radar gun Otobreda 76,2 mm. Both items are new to the coast guard and some of the technology Vietnam can copy. During the meeting with Donald Trump, Vietnamese government requests more patrol ships. Should not be a problem since the Philippine government under Duterte no longer wants US support and assistance.

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VN just conduct a live fire drill for Redut-M naval defense system , an upgrade of 4K44 Redut (NATO:SS-N-3 Shaddock) using P-35B, an anti-air craft carrier missile on 02, Jun.


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Watching Video on the link below
http://baodatviet.vn/quoc-phong/vu-khi/ten-lua-doi-hai-viet-nam-vua-ban-manh-den-muc-nao-3336681/

Base on the news, after upgraded, missile range increase from 450km to 550 km
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Ok some news of the day

Vietnam gets the 3,200 ton Hamilton class cutter with installed radar gun Otobreda 76,2 mm. Both items are new to the coast guard and some of the technology Vietnam can copy. During the meeting with Donald Trump, Vietnamese government requests more patrol ships. Should not be a problem since the Philippine government under Duterte no longer wants US support and assistance.

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With abt 20 Hamilton class cutters installed full weapons, VN coast guard force can control the whole East Sea (SCS) plus Malacca strait and put an end to all pirates around those water :smitten:
 
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VN just conduct a live fire drill for Redut-M naval defense system , an upgrade of 4K44 Redut (NATO:SS-N-3 Shaddock) using P-35B, an anti-air craft carrier missile on 02, Jun.


ten-lua-doi-hai-viet-nam-vua-ban-manh-den-muc-nao_3158809.jpg
Watching Video on the link below
http://baodatviet.vn/quoc-phong/vu-khi/ten-lua-doi-hai-viet-nam-vua-ban-manh-den-muc-nao-3336681/

Base on the news, after upgraded, missile range increase from 450km to 550 km
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With abt 20 Hamilton class cutters installed full weapons, VN coast guard force can control the whole East Sea (SCS) plus Malacca strait and put an end to all pirates around those water :smitten:

Regrettably, there are only 4 Hamiltons left that VN could possibly buy.
 
VN just conduct a live fire drill for Redut-M naval defense system , an upgrade of 4K44 Redut (NATO:SS-N-3 Shaddock) using P-35B, an anti-air craft carrier missile on 02, Jun.


ten-lua-doi-hai-viet-nam-vua-ban-manh-den-muc-nao_3158809.jpg
Watching Video on the link below
http://baodatviet.vn/quoc-phong/vu-khi/ten-lua-doi-hai-viet-nam-vua-ban-manh-den-muc-nao-3336681/

Base on the news, after upgraded, missile range increase from 450km to 550 km
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Based on good practice this type of antiship missile is fired as second wave of attack after the submarines have disabled enemy air defense destroyers.

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Regrettably, there are only 4 Hamiltons left that VN could possibly buy.
Hamilton is the entry point. I would bet Vietnam will begin to ask for second hand frigates, destroyers and aircraft.
 
Neutrality, non alignment, respect, trust, peaceful path etc all sound good, but useless even an invitation for aggression if a much more powerful opponent waits for the best moment to attack you. If VN was in the NATO, you think the Chinese would dare to threaten us with military force? Or as you can hear the statements of Chinese posters here and there in 5 or 10 or 15 years they are ready to take back their rightful territories.

Should we wait until that happens?
Renewable energy is making SCS less relevant day by day, China's interest in SCS could be purely strategic forward base and maintaining status quo going forward. Trump took US out of Paris accord to delay deployment of solar panels in US and allow NAT gas/infrastructure some breathing room(50 Billions invested since 2009 in Nat Gas infra could be obsolete and 150 billion in electrical grid investment also fighting for financial survival). Most likely a solar panel import tax will be added to prevent flood of cheap Chinese imports. In 10 years, Solar could rival Coal and Nat gas in gig watt produced since its cheaper than both in equatorial regions right now and that would make NAT gas prices so low that no one would drill for NAT gas/oil in SCS. Vietnam and Philippines are on the cusp of an exciting energy revolution because of abundant solar power + graphene battery storage innovations. Oil's days are also done and Saudi is selling the crown jewel end of this year. Geopolitics is going to change tremendously over time.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ar-on-record-said-to-be-offered-for-abu-dhabi
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-solar-power-buffett-vs-musk/
 
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Renewable energy is making SCS less relevant day by day, China's interest in SCS could be purely strategic forward base and maintaining status quo going forward. Trump took US out of Paris accord to delay deployment of solar panels in US and allow NAT gas/infrastructure some breathing room(50 Billions invested since 2009 in Nat Gas infra could be obsolete and 150 billion in electrical grid investment also fighting for financial survival). Most likely a solar panel import tax will be added to prevent flood of cheap Chinese imports. In 10 years, Solar could rival Coal and Nat gas in gig watt produced since its cheaper than both in equatorial regions right now and that would make NAT gas prices so low that no one would drill for NAT gas/oil in SCS. Vietnam and Philippines are on the cusp of an exciting energy revolution because of abundant solar power + graphene battery storage innovations. Oil's days are also done and Saudi is selling the crown jewel end of this year. Geopolitics is going to change tremendously over time.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ar-on-record-said-to-be-offered-for-abu-dhabi
Whatever. Nobody including the Chinese can take our territories because

- renewable energy is cheap and available
- fish can be raised in ponds
- the Japanese are dirty bad in history
- the US boys are evil in Middle East and elsewhere, oh yes Donald Trump quits Paris climate accord.
- Chinese peaceful rise is unstoppable

Excuse me if I forget other reasons.

Vietnam military exercise

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VietTel made x-band coastal surveillance radar
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Obviously a copy of Thales Coast Watcher 100, Vietnam has bought in 2013.
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VietTel made x-band coastal surveillance radar
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Obviously a copy of Thales Coast Watcher 100, Vietnam has bought in 2013.
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When I saw the first picture and before I scrolled down to see the text below and the other picture, I thought the same thing: a copy of Thales Coast Watcher 100. Viettel is doing some serious work on radars, a lot of activity in that area,
 
Australia's guided missile frigate HMAS Ballarat is making port call to Tiên Sa (Đà Nẵng). The ship stays for 5 days.

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@jhungary

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nice

it looked weird having the ASMD upgrade tho....

I thought I saw this ship a few weeks ago docked in Garden Island, and now it is in Vietnam....
 
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it looked weird having the ASMD upgrade tho....

I thought I saw this ship a few weeks ago docked in Garden Island, and now it is in Vietnam....
What upgrade is done? Nice ship by the way although she does not look as formidable as a aegis destroyer. Oh yes Welcome to the party: Once Australia's largest ever naval buildup in history, I believe, you will the king in the Southern Pacific. Ok or close to it.

HMAS Ballarat

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Vietnam and the United States Make Nice for Now, but Disappointment Looms
https://www.cfr.org/blog-post/vietnam-and-united-states-make-nice-now-disappointment-looms

This week’s visit of Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc to Washington resulted in the usual readout of supposed achievements and breakthroughs. The prime minister seems to have understood that this U.S. administration likes foreign officials to arrive in Washington with promises of new investments and other deals that the White House can quickly tout as a win.

And indeed, during the visit the U.S. president boasted that the two nations were signing deals that would result in “billions” in new trade, as well as, supposedly, creating many new jobs in the United States. At a speech at the Heritage Foundation, Vietnam’s prime minister promised roughly $15 billion in new deals. Reuters noted, however, that the Commerce Department’s figure for how much the deals would be worth was about one-half the Vietnamese prime minister announced in his speech.

Still, President Trump declared, “They (Vietnam) just made a very large order in the United States—and we appreciate that—for many billions of dollars, which means jobs for the United States and great, great equipment for Vietnam.” The two sides further discussed strategic issues, such as Vietnam’s desire to buy more cutters; Hanoi is hardly going to follow the lead of the Philippines and back down from its assertive defense of its exclusive economic zones in the South China Sea.

But this fanfare covers up some major problems in the relationship. The amount of deals announced is unlikely to fully please the U.S. administration, even though Hanoi likely sees the deals, in a way, as a concession to make to please the White House. And Vietnam will almost surely continue to run a major trade surplus with the United States. For an administration that looks at surpluses and deficits in a zero-sum way, trade relations are going to continue to be a primary irritant in the relationship.

Even on Tuesday, with the Vietnamese prime minister in attendance at an event, according to the Wall Street Journal, “U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer appeared to tag Vietnam as a country unfairly benefiting from trade by selling more to the U.S. than it buys. Mr. Lighthizer emphasized a $32 billion U.S. trade deficit with Vietnam while introducing Mr. Phuc at an event for businesses.”

Indeed, trade hawks in the U.S. administration are likely to continue to view Vietnam warily, and the Vietnamese prime minister received little in the way of concrete action on trade from the U.S. side during his visit. It’s easy to imagine U.S. officials continuing to publicly push and shame Hanoi to try to reduce the U.S. trade deficit with Vietnam in some way. U.S. defense companies could seek significant deals in Vietnam, which is rapidly modernizing its armed forces, but Hanoi is not going to shift extensively to U.S.-made systems anytime soon, as much of its weaponry is dependent on Russian systems, which Vietnam has relied upon for decades and which Vietnamese officials are comfortable with.

What’s more, Hanoi’s leaders and the leaders of ten other nations could well move forward with the Trans-Pacific Partnership without the United States, signaling a further unmooring of Vietnam and the United States’ trade approaches in the Asia Pacific. This does not mean that Vietnam will become even more dependent on trade with China, but it would mean that the trade strategies of Hanoi—which is also negotiating with the European Union—and Washington will continue to further diverge.

Vietnam’s prime minister also supposedly came to Washington with the idea that the two countries could, sometime in the future, negotiate a bilateral free trade deal, according to the Wall Street Journal. But such a possibility seems far off—even U.S. officials admit it is a low priority compared to many other potential deals and renegotiations. And in any case it is hard to imagine the two countries generating enough goodwill on trade issues in the next few years to move toward a bilateral deal.
 
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